IRC log of dig on 2006-06-20

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topic is: Decentralized Information Group (DIG) <http://dig.csail.mit.edu/>
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Users on #dig: DIGlogger evoli claudiof erim jamesdh timbl RalphS tlr lkagal sandro DanC eikeon
14:26:43 [RalphS]
diglogger, bookmark
14:26:43 [RalphS]
See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2006-06-20#T14-26-43
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17:46:42 [DanC]
timbl? are you around to talk about predictiveParser stuff?
17:47:10 [DanC]
I keep looking at your stuff, not understanding it, implementing some piece, and then understanding your stuff and realizing I covered the same ground
17:48:16 [DanC]
I'm going back and forth between using N3 rules to generate the first/follow stuff and using something else.
17:48:33 [DanC]
at first N3 rules seemed too slow, but it's faster than the javascript implementation I found
17:48:43 [DanC]
it's not as fast as yacc, though
17:51:02 [timbl_]
I'm in a meeting now with Wendy and Nigel, till 5
17:51:52 [DanC]
I see.
18:57:07 [sheets]
how are charmod and rdf supposed to interact? I'm looking at the charmod spec now and it seems rather... overarching.
18:58:16 [DanC]
the charmod spec can be reduced to 2 lines:
18:58:31 [DanC]
characters = encoding(bytes)
18:58:36 [DanC]
where encoding is, e.g. utf-8
18:59:03 [sheets]
whew. Thank you.
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18:59:48 [DanC]
it interacts with RDF in 2 ways: (1) via XML, and (2) directly, in that charmod character sequences are plain literals in RDF abstract syntax
19:01:29 [DanC]
does that make sense? life is pretty reasonable in javascript, since it groks utf-8 and XML and such pretty much natively.
19:02:15 [sheets]
Yep. That makes perfect sense. It should be a couple lines of code.
19:17:17 [sheets]
DanC, looking at http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/rdf-charmod-uris/test001.nt I'm confused about how the N-Triple is supposed to look. Is the escape sequence here only present because the test maker is transmitting it in plain ascii or because that is literally how it should be presented? Further, this isn't the preferred URI escape format is it?
19:20:41 [DanC]
<http://example.org/#Andr\u00E9> <http://example.org/#owes> "2000" .
19:21:09 [DanC]
in a word, yes
19:21:16 [DanC]
the escape sequence here only present because the test maker is transmitting it in plain ascii
19:22:18 [sheets]
Ok, that explains a lot. Thanks.
19:22:19 [DanC]
what you refer to as "the preferred URI escape format" is at a different level; this is escaping to represent a URI, not escaping within a URI
19:22:45 [sheets]
escaping to represent a URI vs. escaping within a URI?
19:23:11 [sheets]
ah, i understand
19:23:12 [DanC]
uri = n-triples-unescape("<http://example.org/#Andr\u00E9>")
19:23:40 [sheets]
yes. This is a text-escape because of the plain ascii not a transmission-escape because of the net
19:24:07 [DanC]
right
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