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dig meeting today?
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yes, presentation by Tim Fini
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riiight
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______________
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Why make a mash-up when you can use a generic mash-up for all kinds
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of data at once?
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The Tabulator development team announces the release 0.7 of the Tabulator,
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an open source Semantic Web Browser using AJAX and RDF.
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http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/tab
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The Tabulator loads RDF data from the web as you explore, and then allows you to
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slice it and dice it into tables, and project it onto maps and calendars.
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New this release:
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- Multiple queries at the same time
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- Multiple queries overlaid on same map and/or calendar views
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- Query by example generates SPARQL implicitly
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- Optional direct SPARQL query editing in SPARQL view
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- Full, tested RDF/XML parser
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- Lots of little additions
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also:
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- Bug tracker
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- tabulator-announce@dig.csail.edu list for further announcements
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- Tutorials on using the maps, calendars, etc
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So, for example, you can find geo-coded photos and find coffee shops and
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put them onto the same
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________________
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^ provisional announcement
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speak now or hold your peace till the next release
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semantic-web@w3.org, tabulator-announce@w3.org
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danc -- to anywhere
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else?
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We need Changes.html
15:07:01 [DanC_lap]
that's enough to put the release "on record"; after that, it will naturally spread. You should blog about it, timbl.
15:09:16 [DanC_lap]
really? separate from About.html ?
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15:23:51 [DanC_lap]
TimBL, Harry Halpin is in town, per his web page: "July 16-17th: At AAAI Doctoral Consortium (Boston, Massachusetts) to present a poster on my Doctoral Thesis." -- http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/
15:24:11 [DanC_lap]
anybody who goes to AAAI today, if you see him, let him know I'm coming in at 4:16pm today and I'd like to meet him.
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DIG meeting will have to be in 507 becxause we didn't reserve 531
15:26:32 [DanC_lap]
heh... tabulator announcement ends with "put them onto the same".
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yes
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thx
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DIG1?
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seems we did not have 531 reserved today, so we have to move to a different conf room.
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it'll be 5 mins ...
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yes, DIG1
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http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/resource/html/id/183
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http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/get/a/resource/183.ppt
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http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/event/html/id/164/Finding-knowledge-data-and-answers-on-the-Semantic-Web ?
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RalphS, is Zakim for this call on some channel somewhere?
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in room: Ora, Jesus, Yosi, Mark Adler, Deepali, David H, Adam, Harvey, Rob, Jim, DavidS, Joyce, Lydia, Ralph, TimBL, Lalana, TimF
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+ Danny, Sandro
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-> http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/resource/html/id/183
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-> http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/resource/html/id/183 Finding knowledge, data, and answers on the Semantic Web
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Lalana: KIF and KQML are amoung the things TF in known for
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RDF: http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/resource/owl/id/183/Finding-knowledge-data-and-answers-on-the-Semantic-Web
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zakim, this is dig
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ok, RalphS; that matches DIG_weekly()11:30AM
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zakim, who's on the call?
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On the phone I see Sandro (muted), anMITroom, Danny, RyanL
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zakim, anMITroom has Ora, Jesus, Yosi, Mark Adler, Deepali, David H, Adam, Harvey, Rob, Jim, DavidS, Joyce, Lydia, Ralph, TimBL, Lalana, TimF
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+Ora, Jesus, Yosi, Mark, Adler, Deepali, David, H, Adam, Harvey, Rob, Jim, DavidS, Joyce, Lydia, Ralph, TimBL, Lalana, TimF; got it
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-> http://swoogle.umbc.edu/ Swoogle
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yes, Ralph
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TimF: Swoogle has indexed 1.6M RDF documents, found 10K ontologies
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Very small amounf instances per class , m thinks
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agenda+ Do you read N3?
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+Carlos
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TimF: swoogle only looking for RDF documents, not embedded RDF in HTML documents
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... using both an rdb and lucene
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Timf: We keep an archive of old versions of RDF docs now
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agenda+ Web Service API -- easy to use Swoogle? What can I ask?
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TimF: swoogle now searching some specialized collections; namely, InferenceWeb and "SemNews" ("text meaning of news stories")
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... ontology search results are ordered like PageRank but modified "according to the way RDF works rather than HTML"
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-Sandro
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+Sandro
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Ralph: Is tere a SPARQL interface in the works?
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TimF: Well, we only have 10k ontologies, we could make the metdata about them available though sparql.
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Ora: What is the defn of "ontology?
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TimF: Around 15k things define a bunch of classes and properties.
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But we elimiate from that inferenceweb things which dfeine classes but they aren't really ontologies
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... We have a notion of an Ontology Ratio: the fraction of te triples which contribute to ontology definition
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... Working definition: if it contributes to the definition of some term.
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TimF: We assume our users are semantic web users and researchers
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Ralph: There could be eg dc: metadata wbout an ontology on the page rank page, which might help.
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Ralph: but that would take down its ontology ratio!
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TimF: "web of belief" ontology
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... see Lee Deng (sp?)'s dissertation
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... e.g. "document A contributes to the definition of terms (p1, p2, ...) "
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.TimBL: How many terms are defined in the document you would get if you dereferenced the term?
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timf: dunno
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... but seee t SQL database
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TimF: "term search" looks for properties and classes whose local name includes the given word
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[me wonders what a special tabulator view of swoogle's data could improve for usability by non-SemWeb Developers]
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TimF: swoogle doesn't do much reasoning
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... so 87k documents use foaf:gender with a _direct_ instance of foaf:Person as the subject
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... we don't see cases where a subClassOf foaf:Person is used
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496452 times foaf:Person declared to have a http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/mbox_sha1sum
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probably an order of magnitude estimate of FOAF size
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Topic: SPIRE
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TimF: SPIRE is an NSF ITR working with biologists doing ecological modelling
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lkagal: I'm aligning engine.py with the latest policies you sent. Still double checking that I've aligned the request with what it's supposed to be. But I'm not getting:
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File "/Users/eikeon/paw/www/2005/demo/swap/why.py", line 357, in explain
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raise RuntimeError("An internal Object slipped out, but we caught it.")
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RuntimeError: An internal Object slipped out, but we caught it.
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During all of the findProofs
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TimF: ITIS is using RDF
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http://www.itis.usda.gov/whatsnew.html
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Daniel, have you checked out the latest version of cwm ?
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Just did a cvs update (I'm on the delayed CVS) but think the delay is less than a day.
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timbl has changed the topic to: Tim Finin presentation om Swoogle and food webs in RDF etc
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Did you modify the request ?
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TimF: system is an evidence provider; "scientists don't want [our system to give them] answers, the want possible answers and their evidence"
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s/the want/they want/
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... ELVIS - Ecosystem Localization Visualization and Information System
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Yep... I changed it to:
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"""
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build formula out of http request; return formula and reason
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{ <%(addr)s> a rein:Request;
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rein:requester [ session:secret "%(secret)"];
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rein:resource <$(addr)>;
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} a rein:RequestFormula.
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"""
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Double checking that with the ones you sent in your email
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Topic: UMBC Triple Shop
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http://sparql.cs.umbc.edu/
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q+ we can help biologists make a query without having to use SPARQL
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q+ to mention we can help biologists make a query without having to use SPARQL
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Ah... think the REIN namespace might be the old one.
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Nope... looks like the namespace has not changed. This is still the right one: REIN = 'http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/09/rein/network#'
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TimF: triple shop uses the Google Web Toolkit (GWT)
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... note that triple shop queries (in SPARQL) do not have a FROM clause
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... we use Swoogle to choose the documents to be queries
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s/queries/queried/
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... but the user can use the Database -> Load option to specify documents to be searched
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TimBL: swoogle knows where in the triple the term has been used. Is that exposed in triple shop 'Load Graph from Swoogle'?
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TimF: apparently not, though perhaps the students have it in there somewhere
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... we're looking at materializing RDF data as databases and also as Jena models
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many thanks to TimF for joiningus
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-Danny
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Ralph: how hard is it to find the source of a particular triple in a saved dataset and retract that source?
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TimF: we don't track the source of triples in our materialized saved datasets
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... but you do still have the list of all sources for that dataset
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agenda+ URIs for the data from SPIRE project
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agenda+ The data bus slide
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TimF: A very small number of classes and properties have actually used is very small
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-RyanL
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TimBL: Ho wto I find th spire data?
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TimF: It is on a small piece of paper over in my bag over there
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..,. i'll get it for you
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RDF: http://spire.umbc.edu/ont/ethan_part.php?ethan_taxon=homo+sapiens&ethan_anc=on&ethan_sibl=on&ethan_desc=on
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TimF: try out http://sparql.cs.umbc.edu/tripleshop2/
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using dig/digger
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TimBL: with SPARQL interface?
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TimF: no, not yet
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. Do you read N3? [from timbl]
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2. Web Service API -- easy to use Swoogle? What can I ask? [from timbl]
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3. URIs for the data from SPIRE project [from timbl]
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4. The data bus slide [from timbl]
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Ralph: we have 3 or 4 projects represented here in the room that all are working on class-specific views of data; it would be interesting to see how the swoogle data could be presented in a non-Developer view by one or more of these
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TimBL: I'd like to see federated sparql searching
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Well, tabulator as a front end as it generates SPAQL implciitly
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-Sandro
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TimF: we've found that use of owl:imports is decreasing
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-anMITroom
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DIG_weekly()11:30AM has ended
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Attendees were Sandro, Danny, RyanL, Ora, Jesus, Yosi, Mark, Adler, Deepali, David, H, Adam, Harvey, Rob, Jim, DavidS, Joyce, Lydia, Ralph, TimBL, Lalana, TimF, Carlos
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+Ralph
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zakim, ralph is meetingRoom
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+meetingRoom; got it
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Meeting: Tabulator+SwapMe UI
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timbl, what specifically is going to be discussed at the next meeting? Would it be worthwhile for me to come?
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UI
17:38:12 [crowell_work]
so, probably not?
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so I think probably not...up to you in the end but getting dbview working better is good :)
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zakim, meetingroom has Ora, Lydia, Deepali, Adam, Jesus, Felix, Jim, Joyce, Sheets, Ralph, TimBL, Harvey
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+Ora, Lydia, Deepali, Adam, Jesus, Felix, Jim, Joyce, Sheets, Ralph, TimBL, Harvey; got it
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http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/data#Tabulator
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zakim, meetingroom also has Avivo
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+Avivo; got it
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-> http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/Help.html Tabulator help
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TimBL: double-click opens the node at the top level
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TimBL: Steve's query from last week -- find me a hotel that is near several W3C Members and also close to a train station that will get me into NYC
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... this took Steve several days of manual research
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[might be interesting to experiment with left-truncating URIs at the first '/' with ALT text giving the full URI
17:59:55 [jambo]
good idea
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Jim: future work on identifying datatypes from Class specs
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Ora: anything that parses as an ISO date is a date-time
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Tim: would like a declarative way to say that the range of a property is something in a given lexical space
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eikeon_, were you able to get the new policies to work ?
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No. Am drafting an email to send along.
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TimBL: considering my FOAF file using Fresnel we may want to combine views; my Fresnel view as a Tabulator developer would omit some data that is in the view of me as something else
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Joyce: day views & week views
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... want to find a way to figure out what is displayable
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Do you think it would help, if we revert to the old request style ?
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... and Simile has a really nice timeline view
18:11:43 [eikeon_]
This is what engine.py is producing for one of the request formula:
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DEBUG http request formula: @prefix : <http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/09/rein/network#> .
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@prefix session: <http://redfoot.net/2005/session#> .
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{
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<mid:1001@example.org> a :Request;
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:requester [
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session:secret "alice-passwd" ];
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:resource <http://demo.policyawareweb.org/images/group.jpg> .
18:11:50 [eikeon_]
18:11:52 [eikeon_]
} a :RequestFormula .
18:12:11 [eikeon_]
So it looks like that's being generated correctly.
18:12:28 [lkagal]
eikeon_, please could you join the paw room ? There's a DIG meeting going on.
18:12:39 [eikeon_]
Sure. Sorry all.
18:13:21 [RalphS]
Adam: working on hooking tabulator to remote sparql endpoints
18:14:54 [RalphS]
... can current constrain queries by selecting a value as well as a (set of) properties
18:15:04 [RalphS]
... e.g. 'Berners-Lee' will select equal
18:15:21 [RalphS]
TimBL: would like other operators than equal
18:15:32 [RalphS]
Lydia: been thinking about sparql ui
18:17:28 [RalphS]
-> http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator tabulator issues database
18:18:26 [lkagal]
yosi_s, please could you join the paw chat room ?
18:18:45 [RalphS]
Topic: OINK
18:18:46 [yosi_s]
I'm way ahead of you, lkagal
18:18:51 [RalphS]
Ora: OINK is a server-side solution
18:20:17 [timbl]
adam, the wilbur engine is interesting re query techniques
18:20:20 [RalphS]
... operates on the RDF and RDFS closures of the input graph
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... plus owl:sameAs and owl:InverseFunctionalProperty
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... RDFS + owl:sameAs + owl:IFP I call "RDF++"
18:22:10 [RalphS]
... OINK has some code that sniffs the browser type and tries to handle mobile phone browser
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... when entering a query, the user can check a 'do not use reasoning' checkbox to query only the explicit graph
18:25:14 [RalphS]
... one triple store per OINK instance
18:26:10 [RalphS]
... green arrows represent explicit triples
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... red arrows represent entailed triples (from the reasoner)
18:28:51 [RalphS]
... properties are clustered according to the leaves of the class hierarchy around the class of the instance
18:32:52 [RalphS]
... hovering over an arrow shows (via alt text) the origin of the triple
18:35:39 [RalphS]
... OINK infrastructure has a property to associate a special viewing function with a Class
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Ora: want to add Fresnel support and GRDDL support to OINK
18:44:55 [RalphS]
Adam: tabulator only tracks one source per triple
18:45:19 [jambo]
Adam: "why" should be an array, not a single source
18:45:47 [RalphS]
Ora: Wilbur does inferencing on the fly by rewriting the query
18:46:07 [RalphS]
... so it's hard to show the supporting evidence for an entailed property
18:48:37 [RalphS]
... the Wilbur query rewrite engine is generic; RDFS rewriting is just one of the possible cases
18:50:01 [RalphS]
TimBL: it would be nice to be able to feed the RDFS axioms into something that produces the rewrite rules
18:50:03 [RalphS]
Ora: yes
18:51:58 [RalphS]
TimF: what is the limit of the kind of reasoning that this rewrite mechanism supports?
18:52:05 [RalphS]
Ora: I haven't really explored that question
18:53:22 [RalphS]
... but one entailment this can't express is inferring P rdf:type rdf:Property. from X P Y.
18:56:07 [RalphS]
Ralph: tell us something about your early experiments with Fresnel
18:56:28 [RalphS]
Ora: initially I want to select properties to show or suppress and ordering of properties
18:57:06 [RalphS]
... am not so excited about the instance selection facilities in Fresnel
18:57:31 [RalphS]
... much of OINK appearance is done via CSS
18:57:46 [RalphS]
... dynamic selection of style sheets might be a good thing
18:58:01 [timbl]
q+ about following links in queries
18:59:18 [RalphS]
TimBL: what about making the query engine invoke the Web as well as using the triple store?
18:59:42 [RalphS]
Ora: I've been thinking about a mechanism to populate the triple store with more data during query execution
18:59:59 [RalphS]
... there's no limitation in Wilbur to invoking arbitrary operations during query execution
19:00:33 [RalphS]
... as a crude prototype there is currently a "virtual property" mechanism; a method invocation computes the value of a "virtual property"
19:01:30 [RalphS]
TimBL: tabulator does asynchronous query processing with callbacks
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19:04:47 [yosi_s]
Zakim, +up
19:04:48 [Zakim]
I wonder where up is
19:05:10 [yosi_s]
+up
19:06:44 [RalphS]
Ora: OINK also has an XML-RPC interface for non-http clients
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19:14:17 [RalphS]
Sheets: tabulator has "data aggregation" views
19:17:12 [RalphS]
Sheets: it would be "easy" to make Tabulator's triple store API call out via XML-RPC
19:17:31 [RalphS]
Ralph: it would be cool to make tabulator query an OINK data store that way
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19:20:17 [RalphS]
Ralph: does OINK have notifications when load of a source has completed?
19:20:24 [RalphS]
Ora: no, but that would be easy to add
19:20:31 [RalphS]
Ralph: tabulator would like such notifications
19:23:47 [Zakim]
-meetingRoom
19:23:48 [Zakim]
DIG_weekly()11:30AM has ended
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Attendees were Ora, Lydia, Deepali, Adam, Jesus, Felix, Jim, Joyce, Sheets, Ralph, TimBL, Harvey, Avivo
19:24:34 [RalphS]
Sheets: it's also possible for tabulator to use the RDF parsing and store parts of Gecko
19:24:42 [RalphS]
... we hope to look into that soon
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[adjourned]
19:35:43 [RalphS]
Ryan to present Fresnel at DIG meeting on 24 July, 11:30
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21:12:23 [alerer]
timbl, do you know why when you open an outliner node, all non-http-starting URIs automatically become red?
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21:55:19 [timbl]
Probably a function which returns "UNGETTABLE" as a docState of something
21:55:27 [timbl]
(alerer)
21:57:05 [timbl]
function docState(uri) {
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if (!uri) {
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tdebug("docState "+uri)
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}
21:57:06 [timbl]
if (uri.slice(0,5) != 'http:') return 'unfetchable' // @@ add ftp, file?
21:57:25 [timbl]
Unfetchable shouldn't be red, it should be white
21:57:56 [timbl]
hmmm line 370:
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case 'unfetchable':
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icon = icon_failed;
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alt = 'cannot fetch';
21:58:04 [sheets]
DanC_lap, is there an easy way to make your pedia airport service browseable?
21:58:45 [timbl]
Links to nearest airports, states, maybe?
21:59:59 [sheets]
hopping around by state would be cool
22:00:08 [sheets]
with adjacent state information
22:00:24 [sheets]
I wonder how google maps does regions (if at all)
22:07:06 [timbl]
Isn't there a simple algorithm for finding out whether a point is in a polygon --- number of times it is on the left of a side vector is odd? Wonder if state polygons exist. But it could be a big distraction!
22:08:05 [timbl]
alerer, sorry that was in tabulate.js
22:10:14 [crowell_work]
DanC_lap, how long are you here for?
22:12:09 [timbl]
dsheets, see #swig ... "http://owl.mindswap.org/2003/submit-rdf/474.rdf#Buddy" seems to throw a partser internal error
22:12:52 [DanC_lap]
I fly out Fri, after the TAMI meeting
22:13:08 [DanC_lap]
browseable... I hope so, but I haven't figured out how yet
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22:21:16 [DanC_lap]
sheets, did you give up on the graphic in http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/149 ?
22:21:36 [DanC_lap]
the tabulator release isn't on planetrdf yet. TimBL or I should write an item about it
22:21:54 [sheets]
it got moved off into the repo by Tim's request
22:22:49 [DanC_lap]
you can still point to it from a weblog entry, sheets
22:24:42 [sheets]
it's in the entry under a link called "head-to-head benchmarks": http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/release/tabulator/0.7/doc/rdf/benchmarks.html
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