IRC log of dig on 2006-10-23
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- 01:18:53 [christel]
- [Global Notice] Hi all, we've had quite a few people asking whether the memorial site for Rob Levin (lilo) is online yet, and I am happy to inform you all that you can now leave your condolences and read what others have to say over at http://lilo.freenode.net Have a good evening and thank you for using freenode!
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- topic is: DIG 16 Oct cancelled; TAMI did meet 19 Oct
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- Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS tlr lkagal paulproteus sandro eikeon
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- DIG meeting to happen today at 11:30amET
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- djweitzner has changed the topic to: DIG Meeting 23 October
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- 15:29:33 [RalphS]
- zakim, this will be dig
- 15:29:33 [Zakim]
- ok, RalphS; I see DIG_weekly()11:30AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
- 15:30:08 [DanC]
- I'm at risk; I need to finish GRDDL spec editing today.
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- DIG_weekly()11:30AM has now started
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- +MIT531
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- zakim, mit531 has Ralph
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- +Ralph; got it
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- zakim, TimBL just arrived in mit531
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- +TimBL; got it
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- 15:33:17 [RalphS]
- zakim, Robert just arrived in mit531
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- +Robert; got it
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- +Danny
- 15:36:21 [RalphS]
- Robert is Robert Hoffmann
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- zakim, who's on the call
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- I don't understand 'who's on the call', RalphS
- 15:36:36 [RalphS]
- zakim, who's on the call?
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- On the phone I see MIT531, Danny
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- MIT531 has Ralph, TimBL, Robert
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- Chair: Danny
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- danc?
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- 15:39:00 [RalphS]
- Tim: looks like Linked Data workshop may happen, part of pre-ISWC sessions
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- Excused: DanC
- 15:39:28 [RalphS]
- s/ISWC/WWW2007/
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- Tim: hoping for bug fixes from David Sheets
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- ... I fixed one of the two critical bugs before release
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- ... tabulator will highlight the source
- 15:40:52 [Zakim]
- +DanC
- 15:41:33 [DanC]
- q+ to say the linked data workshop preparation I've been doing is for WWW2007 in May, not for ISWC in Nov
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- +RyanL
- 15:41:43 [timbl]
- agenda+ welcome to Robert Hoffmann
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- take up agendum 1
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "welcome to Robert Hoffmann" taken up [from timbl]
- 15:42:42 [RalphS]
- Robert: I did a masters in biology in Vienna, then a PhD in computational biology in Madrid
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- ... so I'm interested in making software systems from literature available to biologiests
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- ... working in New York with a group developing pathway resources in OWL; BioPAX
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- ... am personally interested in creating a wiki engine for gene data; "wikigenes"
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- ... idea is too provide a way for scientists to enter summary information about genes and list other genes with which this interacts
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- zakim, Lalana just arrived in mit531
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- +Lalana; got it
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- Robert: sounds like decentralized information, thus connection to DIG
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- (biopax... I'm interested to learn more about how they use URIs)
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- 15:48:54 [DanC]
- (has timbl seen IHOP? it looks interesting. http://www.ihop-net.org/UniPub/iHOP/ . I wonder if a demo would address timbl's concerns.)
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- http://cbio.mskcc.org/~hoffmann/
- 15:51:09 [timbl]
- Yes, I have playd a little though I forget details.
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- Would it be good to have an iHop wak-through from Robert?
- 15:52:22 [RalphS]
- Robert: I expect to be on campus 4 days/week, probably Monday-Thursday
- 15:52:37 [DanC]
- I expect it would be good, though I doubt I have bandwidth for it today. i.e. it would be too interesting for me to ignore and I'd be conflicted with GRDDL WG work
- 15:53:41 [Zakim]
- DanC, you wanted to say the linked data workshop preparation I've been doing is for WWW2007 in May, not for ISWC in Nov
- 15:54:11 [RalphS]
- TimBL: yes, the Banff WWW2007 event is what I'd meant
- 15:54:51 [RalphS]
- -> http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html TimBL on Linked Data
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- DanC: Chris Bizer submitted the workshop proposal
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- ... names DanC, Danny Ayers, TimBL, Chris Bizer
- 15:55:54 [DanC]
- http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData
- 15:56:32 [DanC]
- "The goal of the workshop is to give an overview about approaches to publishing
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- linked data on the Web and to showcase innovative applications that consume linked
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- data.
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- "
- 15:57:11 [RalphS]
- TimBL: workshop goals are to explore what's been implemented by folks writing tools that explore data
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- ... situations in which you might want to give clues rather than giving links
- 15:57:47 [DanC]
- q+ to collect my thoughts a bit: the workshop is a catalyst for community discussion of best practices for using URIs and links in the semantic web
- 15:57:55 [djweitzner]
- ack d
- 15:57:55 [RalphS]
- ... issues around backlinks; social problem in others storing reverse copies of links you've made
- 15:57:55 [Zakim]
- DanC, you wanted to collect my thoughts a bit: the workshop is a catalyst for community discussion of best practices for using URIs and links in the semantic web
- 15:58:45 [RalphS]
- DanC: want to emphasize the _web_ in Semantic Web
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- ... would hope to discuss geonames work
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- ... examples of tweaking microformats to be SPARQLable
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- ... some javascript code that follows links to answer queries; e.g. 'names of all my friends' will follow my foaf links
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- ... Chris Bizer has reimplemented this in Jena framework
- 16:01:00 [djweitzner]
- W3C Workshop on
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- Languages for Privacy Policy Negotiation and Semantics-Driven Enforcement
- 16:01:02 [DanC]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sparql-dev/2006OctDec/thread.html ANN: Querying the complete Semantic Web with SPARQL Chris Bizer (Monday, 9 October)
- 16:01:07 [djweitzner]
- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/privacy-ws/
- 16:01:18 [RalphS]
- Topic: W3C Privacy Workshop
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- Danny: workshop focussed on interoperability of policy languages for the web
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- ... I gave two talks; my own on policy frameworks and Lalana's on Rein
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- ... participants from PRIME EU project
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- s/from/included folk from/
- 16:03:26 [DanC]
- s/would hope to discuss geonames work/would like to discuss geonames work, for example/
- 16:04:16 [RalphS]
- ... some discussions about possible next steps W3C could take; e.g. interoperabilitiy of policy languages
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- ... general feeling that a single Web policy language was beyond reach
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- ... but that OWL and rules were a good place to start
- 16:04:52 [DanC]
- agenda + rules WG progress report
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- q?
- 16:05:53 [RalphS]
- move to next agendum
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- agendum 2. "rules WG progress report" taken up [from DanC]
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/CORE
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- http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/n3absyn.py
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- ^ converts n3 rules to ACL2 format
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- s/^/had recently written code that/
- 16:08:15 [DanC]
- F2F4 4-5 November 2006, Athens, Georgia, USA
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F4
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/B.1_Horn_Rules
- 16:15:58 [timbl]
- l_: asdfasd ( asdf , asdfsadf , sadfsdf )
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- [12:15] timbl_: p (s , o )
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- example: [[[
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- And ( Exists ?Buyer (purchase(?Buyer ?Seller book(?Author LeRif) $49))
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- ?Seller=?Author )
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- ]]]
- 16:17:29 [RalphS]
- Robert: I offer an IHOP demo for next week
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- Danny: next meeting 30 October
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- -Danny
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- http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec current grddl draft
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- http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=39407
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- -RyanL
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- -DanC
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- -MIT531
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- DIG_weekly()11:30AM has ended
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- Attendees were Ralph, TimBL, Robert, Danny, DanC, RyanL, Lalana
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- danny?
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