IRC log of dig on 2007-01-29
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- topic is: MIT Decentralized Information Group http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
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- Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS maxwilson sandro DanC jambo eikeon das05r_ aztennenbaum
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- Hi all - I'll be in Cambridge 1st-3rd March, it'd be good to meet if any of you are about there then...
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- timbl, you still have not added cwm_xml.py
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- Try now
- 18:30:15 [timbl]
- Cloud? I assume you are the subject of http://www.johnbreslin.com/
- 18:32:14 [timbl]
- Do drop in - when would wok on the 1st or 2nd?
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- 18:38:34 [timbl]
- http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SusyHEsOtha61Ck4XqWIE2-
- 18:42:58 [yosi_s_]
- timbl, try `` cwm --n3 http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/test/xml-syntax/xml_prefix.n3 --rdf | cwm --rdf --n3 ''
- 18:43:09 [yosi_s_]
- I'm getting weirdness
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- saxtordf
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- What weridnes do you get?
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- 19:25:48 [sandro]
- Does anyone know where to find a TAMI F2F agenda?
- 19:26:22 [DanC]
- I think so, sandro...
- 19:26:37 [DanC]
- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/01/31-e2esa-ftf.html
- 19:26:53 [sandro]
- Of course, I should have guessed that. :-)
- 19:26:54 [DanC]
- djw sent that pointer 23 Jan
- 19:26:57 [sandro]
- Thabnks.
- 19:27:18 [DanC]
- well, I found it by looking at "recipients contains tami-team"
- 19:28:06 [sandro]
- D'oh. I looked at the e-mail many times and assume from the subject it was a draft of the proposal, not a draft agenda. (the word agenda was off the right edge of the screen)
- 19:28:19 [DanC]
- ah
- 19:54:41 [yosi_s_]
- DanC, I've been wondering, where can I find out about Russell's paradox in OWL Full?
- 20:07:45 [DanC]
- I'd look for mail from pfps
- 20:07:54 [DanC]
- to www-webont-wg
- 20:09:00 [DanC]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jan/0099
- 20:11:54 [DanC]
- here's a fun one from Pat Hayes that I found while looking: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-logic/2002Apr/0011.html
- 20:12:02 [DanC]
- "I myself find UML over-elaborate, confused,
- 20:12:02 [DanC]
- confusing and awkward, and think that its semantics has all the kerb
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- appeal of a Renault 2CV; but that is just my opinion."
- 20:13:21 [sandro]
- *snort*
- 20:40:14 [sandro]
- Any idea where the data purpose algebra paper is? The link from the agenda is wrong.
- 20:41:59 [DanC]
- ew... really?
- 20:42:17 [DanC]
- I have a printed copy; and I remember that when I looked for it in SVN, I found it
- 20:42:20 [sandro]
- it sure seems broken to me. :-)
- 20:42:45 [sandro]
- I haven't yet had a reason to try svn.
- 20:43:04 [DanC]
- ./TAMI/2006/09/dpa/data-purpose-algebra.pdf
- 20:43:27 [DanC]
- wow... http://dig.csail.mit.edu/TAMI/2006/09/dpa/data-purpose-algebra.pdf is 404
- 20:44:28 [sandro]
- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/TAMI/2006/dpa/data-purpose-algebra.pdf
- 20:44:46 [sandro]
- does that mean the web and svn are out of sync?
- 20:45:08 [DanC]
- looks that way; hard to say
- 20:45:17 [DanC]
- I'm reluctant to `svn up` lest I lose my copy
- 20:45:31 [sandro]
- "cvs -n update"
- 20:46:25 [DanC]
- the svn analog is status, I think; it gives no output
- 20:46:40 [DanC]
- connolly@dirk:~/dig-svn/TAMI/2006/09/dpa$ svn up
- 20:46:40 [DanC]
- svn: Cannot replace a directory from within
- 20:46:44 [DanC]
- eek
- 20:51:26 [sandro]
- cd .. ?
- 20:54:42 [DanC]
- phpht. `svn up` deleted dpa. :-/
- 20:54:47 [DanC]
- connolly@dirk:~/dig-svn/TAMI/2006/09$ svn up
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- D sorn1-dhs.ttl
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- D purposes.ttl
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- D sorn2-fbi.ttl
- 20:54:47 [DanC]
- D dpa
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- D categories.ttl
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- D s4.ttl
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- D data-categories.ttl
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- D sorn3-marshals.ttl
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- D sorn4-tsc.ttl
- 20:55:00 [DanC]
- Updated to revision 2709.
- 20:55:29 [DanC]
- dpa was available as of Rev: 2258 by lkagal 2006-10-19 10:17:19 -0500 (Thu, 19 Oct 2006)
- 20:55:52 [DanC]
- r2306 | cph | 2006-11-02 12:36:25 -0600 (Thu, 02 Nov 2006) | 1 line
- 20:55:52 [DanC]
- Reorganize directory tree by topic rather than date.
- 20:55:57 [DanC]
- it needs kerberos. :-/
- 20:56:05 [sandro]
- fts
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- (which we won't expand)
- 20:57:01 [DanC]
- when I finally figured out kerberos/ssh/svn, I squirreled away the clues in the blog. http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/69
- 20:58:01 [sandro]
- Alas, I can't read breadcrumbs, because it crashes my browser. Snort.
- 20:58:09 [sandro]
- I guess I can download the HTML.
- 20:58:44 [DanC]
- we really should just use pencils, shouldn't we?
- 20:59:25 [sandro]
- Or at least treat software like airplanes -- stay away from anything that hasn't been flying for at least a decade.
- 21:00:03 [DanC]
- I mostly do that... I guess drupal is sorta new... and SVN.
- 21:00:46 [yosi_s_]
- sandro, a simple telnet dig.csail.mit.edu 80 should work
- 21:01:04 [yosi_s_]
- I've really done google searches that way before
- 21:01:20 [sandro]
- If I really want to read the HTML by hand, yes, exactly.
- 21:01:24 [yosi_s_]
- (I was searching for a web browser to download)
- 21:02:12 [sandro]
- DanC, I sent you two private messages in the past few minutes. Did you get them?
- 21:02:26 [DanC]
- no; maybe I'm not logged in...
- 21:02:43 [DanC]
- well, /whois suggests I am
- 21:04:23 [sandro]
- It looks like it was me who was not logged in. You had a line "is identified to services" and I did not.
- 21:05:48 [DanC]
- the #python channel stops you from /join-ing if you're not registered/logged-in
- 21:06:15 [DanC]
- I wonder about setting up #swig that way just so that people don't get surprised about the /msg policy
- 21:07:08 [sandro]
- That would be okay if the error message were good.
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- 22:07:20 [DanC]
- http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/n3absyn.py
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- http://www.w3.org/2007/01/lbl22/lblrules.rif
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- 23:26:17 [DanC]
- the find-all button doesn't seem to work in tabulator.
- 23:26:21 [DanC]
- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/tab.html?uri=http://cgi.w3.org/dbview/w3c%23.database
- 23:30:16 [jambo]
- DanC, to be completely honest, I've never actually loaded a secure source before
- 23:30:27 [DanC]
- ugh... firefox doesn't seem to...ah; it's back.
- 23:30:48 [DanC]
- let's try a more basic use of "Find all"...
- 23:31:15 [DanC]
- lose
- 23:31:32 [DanC]
- I just restarted at http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/tab.html and tried to tabulate project developer names
- 23:32:30 [jambo]
- hrm
- 23:32:39 [jambo]
- danc, it looks like half of the changes i made today have actually committed
- 23:33:58 [DanC]
- odd
- 23:34:21 [jambo]
- i was actually having similar problems 2 days ago
- 23:34:29 [jambo]
- im booting up my laptop to see if it all got committed
- 23:34:45 [jambo]
- oh, you know what? i accidentally forgot to svn add a new feature :P
- 23:34:49 [jambo]
- hold on
- 23:38:10 [jambo]
- okay DanC, it's fixed
- 23:38:36 [jambo]
- terribly sorry about that -- I was working on a windows machine, and i have a whole lot of "unrecognized" thumbs.db files in my tabulator directory
- 23:38:58 [jambo]
- so when i look at svn status, I sometimes miss that one of the question marks is a file i need to add
- 23:39:03 [DanC]
- ah
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- happens to the best of us
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- 23:41:13 [DanC]
- timbl, gottaminute to help me try to tabulate some WBS stuff?
- 23:41:18 [DanC]
- I think I knocked dbview over