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18:46:10 [kennyluck]Oops..I screwed up wiki/test.rdf#test when trying to delete triples
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19:04:19 [timbl]And we have no svn repo
19:04:21 [timbl]for that
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19:06:22 [kennyluck]what do I do? I seems to be a server side problem..
19:07:06 [kennyluck]But I don't even think I can reproduce the problem
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19:07:42 [timbl]There is a log of what the calls were
19:08:25 [timbl]I forget where it is
19:09:36 [kennyluck]I know where it is
19:10:19 [kennyluck]dig/www/wiki-log
19:14:22 [timbl]ah
19:15:27 [kennyluck]WHERE { ?n117 <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/nick> "Tank" . }
19:15:27 [kennyluck]DELETE { ?n117 <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/nick> "Tank" . }
19:15:43 [kennyluck]I would guess this is the problem.
19:16:06 [timbl]Why would that delete a bunch of stuff?
19:17:27 [kennyluck]nothing is deleted...look at the source
19:19:46 [timbl]The source is really witrd ... not good N3
19:20:16 [timbl]Oh I seee .. it is an erro r message!
19:20:26 [timbl]don't know how to sort _:<http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test.rdf">http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test.rdf>:56 and _:<http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test.rdf>:50 excluding:
19:20:27 [timbl]...
19:21:03 [timbl]Looks like, yes, a server-ide bug in the serializer
19:21:29 [timbl]server-side
19:21:53 [timbl]I would suggest contacting EricP
19:22:32 [timbl]RalphS, have you seen Ericp?
19:22:34 [kennyluck]After I reproduce the problem..I don't know how it comes...
19:25:54 [timbl]The way I read that file, EricP's code (I expect) stores bnodes internally as a concatenation of _: < then the uriu of th doc they were defined in then :: then a number which he allocates when parsing or something. The dump in the source test.rdf is a debug dump of the knowldge base. The complaint is that (presumbaly for serializing) he needs to be able tro sort, comparing 2 bnodes and he can't for some reason.
19:27:17 [timbl]I don't know what 'excluding' means in that story.
19:27:25 [timbl]But I would aim for ericP or Joe
19:27:47 [timbl](eval) at /afs/csail.mit.edu/group/dig/www/perl/modules/W3C/Rdf/bin/algae:91
19:31:23 [RalphS]TimBL, no, I've not seen Eric today
19:32:18 [timbl]That's a shame. Looks like the tabulator has hit a perl RDFApp bug
19:39:38 [kennyluck]timbl, I got another strange error
19:39:45 [kennyluck]http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test2.rdf#test
19:41:45 [timbl]Thanks anyway, Ralph.
19:44:04 [timbl]W3C::Util::Exception thrown at /afs/csail.mit.edu/group/dig/www/perl/modules//W3C/Rdf/RdfDB.pm:252
19:46:26 [timbl]must be http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/perl/modules/W3C/Rdf/RdfDB.pm?rev=1.206&content-type=text/plain
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19:47:35 [nullified]Is danC around
19:48:18 [nullified]Anyone around ?
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19:50:29 [timbl]nullified?
19:50:51 [timbl]# $Id: RdfDB.pm,v 1.206 2007/07/17 19:17:35 eric Exp $
19:50:51 [timbl]^ the datestamp on RdfDB.pm
19:53:14 [nullified]what ?
19:53:16 [nullified]i am user
19:53:21 [nullified]mirc gave me null id for some reason
19:55:00 [timbl]You are a suser?
19:55:15 [nullified]whats asuser
19:55:40 [nullified]i just want to get in touch involved with the dig project at mit
19:55:52 [timbl]sorry , you a a user? of?
19:56:07 [timbl]where are you?
19:56:30 [nullified]canada
19:56:49 [timbl](Kenny, my $dbStr = join("\n", map {map {$_->toString(-brief => 1)} values %{$self->{BYSUBJECT}{$_}}} keys %{$self->{BYSUBJECT}});
19:56:49 [timbl]&throw(new W3C::Util::Exception(-message => "don't know how to sort $lStr and $rStr excluding:\n$exStr\nin:\n$dbStr"));
19:56:49 [timbl])
19:57:02 [nullified]wats that
19:57:10 [timbl]DanC was around, but he is doing ther things just now I think. You could try emailing him
19:59:02 [nullified]oh well i contacted Danny Weitzner just now via email
19:59:09 [nullified]it was regarding the mit.edu site issue
20:00:03 [nullified]and ur ?
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20:06:29 [kennyluck]look at http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test3.rdf
20:06:40 [kennyluck]the source, I wonder this is a valid rdf
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20:21:41 [kennyluck](able to delete triples)
20:22:02 [kennyluck]timbl, we can play with it...I already screwed up three files...
20:27:01 [timbl]Do we have any copy of the opriginal?
20:27:25 [timbl]If not, maybe we can turn the error dump into real N3 and convert it.
20:27:41 [timbl]Do you know what it is that screws them up?
20:28:01 [timbl]Weshould have them checked into SVN
20:28:06 [timbl]in th e future.
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20:29:21 [timbl]That is the same bug, don't know how to sort _:<http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test3.rdf">http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test3.rdf>:1 and _:<http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test3.rdf>:3 excluding:
20:29:22 [timbl]...
20:29:35 [timbl]in test3.rdf
20:30:46 [kennyluck]is Joe editing his php scripts?
20:31:30 [timbl]Ah, maybe today they are switching us from one server to another.
20:32:15 [timbl]The people to chaeck that with would be mark Pearrw and Garret on the 2nd flloor in tIG
20:32:45 [timbl]I don't know the details but they were trying to switch machines by the end o fJuly
20:33:40 [timbl]forwarded in what way?
20:33:54 [kennyluck]well, http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
20:34:26 [kennyluck]timbl, I do not have the originals
20:34:35 [timbl]Not a big problem.
20:35:01 [kennyluck]And I have no idea what screws up these files...
20:35:11 [kennyluck]It happens when you DELETE something
20:35:31 [kennyluck]and is related to bnodes
20:35:51 [timbl]Yes, comparing bnodes.
20:37:05 [kennyluck]Sorry, I got to go...
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