18:32:03 [sbp]I'm trying to use the Wiki referred to in the Tabulator extension tutorial
18:32:36 [sbp]can't be using Algae, now I check again. it clearly says SPARQL and application/sparql-query
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18:37:16 [presbrey]curl -d "INSERT {<s> <p> <o>}" -H "Content-Type: application/sparql-query" http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/Sandbox
18:37:19 [presbrey]works for me
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18:38:10 [sbp]ah, I see what I did wrong
18:38:22 [sbp]I thought --data took a filename. clearly it just takes bytes. my bad
18:38:23 [sbp]thanks!
18:39:06 [presbrey]posting data from a file with curl can be done by prefixing the filename with @
18:39:12 [presbrey]no problem.
18:39:22 [sbp]noted. and success confirmed
18:42:32 [sbp]ooh, the edits are autosaved. nice
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19:03:33 [timbl]sbp, have you managed to dit anything yet?
19:03:53 [timbl]I think most things in the wiki are play-space
19:06:57 [kennyluck]I think it's depressing to see people writing stuff on the issue tracker or the ESW wiki but not our wiki space.
19:13:59 [timbl]Well, we would need quite a lot more development before the UI is as ueasy to use as an issue tracker. But I think it will come.
19:14:48 [timbl]I find in the tabulator extsnsion the shift-open doesn't work for making an item the new root.
19:16:20 [timbl]We could do a bulk export of the issue tracker to the wiki I supose.
19:19:13 [kennyluck]I didn't do anything to shift-open, it seems that it opens the object instead of refocusing on it.
19:20:18 [kennyluck]I wish we can supply some rdfizer to the end-user, like dbview(I never used it, though) or SIMILE's svn2rdf which I have been using.
19:32:21 [timbl]?
19:32:36 [timbl]¿like dbview never used it?
19:33:45 [kennyluck]I never used it.
19:34:07 [kennyluck]I never found an open SQL server either...
19:44:50 [timbl]never used what?
19:44:59 [timbl]"I wish we can supply some rdfizer to the end-user, like dbview(I never used it, though) or SIMILE's svn2rdf which I have been using."
19:49:02 [kennyluck]I mean rdfizers like dbview or svn2rdf
19:49:38 [kennyluck]I've never used dbview, though.
19:52:35 [timbl]Ah, I see.
19:53:09 [timbl]Simile has a framework for javascript RDFizers, scrapers. I don't know hoe you discover them.
19:54:57 [kennyluck]framework? They seem to be little programs written in different languages.
19:55:16 [kennyluck]I mean those RDFizers.
19:55:35 [timbl]I think there is a framework for adding in Javascript ones. Yes, they have a collectuion of random RDFizer programs in random langauges too.
19:55:48 [timbl]What do you think we should do?
19:57:34 [kennyluck]I don't know. I made configuration.js and wished one day we have lots of SourceOptions.
19:58:40 [timbl]Why do I get (Error) on a line by itself when I try to add a new member of a class?
19:59:39 [timbl]http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/Projects.rdf#OpenLinkedDataProject
20:01:27 [kennyluck]This is a bug, I once thought of this but didn't fix it.
20:02:09 [timbl]You realized it could happen but didn't fix it? What is it that happened?
20:02:52 [kennyluck]Because I was fixing other bugs.
20:03:54 [timbl]I mean, what is the situation whcih created "(Error)"?
20:04:12 [timbl]DIGlogger, pointer?
20:04:12 [timbl]See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2007-08-28#T20-04-12
20:04:31 [sbp]timbl: yep, editing worked just fine
20:04:42 [sbp]is there an index of the files available to edit in there?
20:04:51 [timbl]No!
20:05:08 [kennyluck]any path under our dig space, I guess.
20:05:23 [kennyluck]oops, I meant wiki space.
20:06:12 [timbl]sbp, you can create a file by making information about things with URIs in it.
20:06:32 [timbl]If you enter foo.rdf#test then you get 404,... but you can still add mroe data about it.
20:06:39 [timbl]Then, after that it is no longer 404
20:06:57 [timbl]So far I see: demo1.rdf jim.rdf random.rdf
20:06:57 [timbl]finaltest.rdf openlinkeddataprojects.rdf release.rdf
20:06:57 [timbl]garbage.rdf perley.rdf sandbox
20:06:58 [timbl]happydays.rdf projects.rdf tabulator.rdf
20:06:58 [timbl]jambo.rdf projects.rdf~ test.rdf
20:06:58 [timbl]jambobo property:assignment test123.rdf
20:07:00 [timbl]jambobo.rdf property:assignment.rdf unit-readonly.rdf
20:07:02 [timbl]jambotest.rdf property:competitor.rdf user:kennyluck
20:07:04 [timbl]jcarr.rdf property:known_issue.rdf user:kennyluck.rdf
20:07:06 [timbl]-----------------------------
20:08:25 [timbl]I had hoped that I could get projects.rdf to become a wiki data version of http://esw.w3.org/topic/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/DataSets
20:09:01 [timbl]I just added dbpedia
20:09:36 [kennyluck]Ok, I will fix this soon.
20:09:42 [kennyluck]I mean, right now.
20:09:52 [timbl]fix what?
20:09:59 [timbl](Error) ?
20:10:21 [sbp]ah thanks, I was wondering if there was an easier way to create from scratch
20:10:34 [sbp]is the source behind /wiki/ available?
20:10:44 [timbl]Yes
20:11:05 [timbl]In principle ... but I am not sure of the breadcrumbs.
20:11:31 [sbp]okay, no problem. should I ping jambo/presbrey about it, perhaps?
20:11:38 [timbl]presbrey
20:11:42 [sbp]'k
20:11:47 [presbrey]hey Tim
20:12:08 [timbl]speak of the devil
20:12:10 [sbp]presbrey: ah, 'ello there. is the source for /wiki/ available?
20:12:25 [timbl]Are there pointers tio the code running as the wiki?
20:12:34 [presbrey]https://svn.csail.mit.edu/dig/2007/wiki/
20:13:14 [timbl]login as?
20:14:00 [presbrey]dig subversion login; I can mail you it, sbp?
20:14:22 [timbl]Could we make it public, Joe?
20:14:23 [sbp]presbrey: yep, that'd be handy, thanks. sean atte miscoranda dotte com
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20:14:42 [sbp]ye olde packhorse email
20:16:05 [presbrey]sure; I
20:16:15 [presbrey]I'll put up a link there
20:16:16 [sbp]I've got to run for now, but I'll try to keep it on the stack for tomorrow
20:16:24 [sbp]will be freer at the end of the week
20:43:35 [timbl]cu
21:06:31 [kennyluck]timbl, I think I fixed the bug, tell me if you see more (Error)s.
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21:17:56 [presbrey]download link is up
21:20:09 [timbl]Kenny, try adding a new http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/Projects.rdf#OpemLinkedDataProject with a name, description, etc
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