IRC log of dig on 2007-11-02

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02:43:55 [timbl]
[I used ooo
02:44:18 [timbl]
I have saved it with changed marked in http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/Papers/Tabulator-WWW2007/tabulator-www08-tim.doc
02:44:28 [timbl]
as a MS Word 9.0 or something document.
02:44:30 [timbl]
ericp
02:44:44 [timbl]
I have proof read it, fixed lot sof typos.
02:44:51 [timbl]
lots of typos
02:52:17 [ericP]
MS Word 9.0?
02:52:23 [ericP]
that is soo this afternoon
03:12:54 [DanC]
what happened to google docs?
03:16:57 [ericP]
no idea what that's about
03:19:54 [lkagal]
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03:25:08 [ericP]
timbl, can you make the next semweb gathering?
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03:26:49 [ericP]
some guy named Albert-László Barabási, from University of Notre Dame, USA, will present if he can meet you
03:27:28 [ericP]
i guess susie's wondering if she can pimp you out
03:27:48 [ericP]
you can speak to him about WSRI stuff
05:06:33 [ericP]
hi all
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06:54:23 [ericP]
g'morning mc
06:54:39 [ericP]
you want me to mail you what i have?
06:59:01 [ericP]
sent to you
06:59:38 [ericP]
T-0300
07:18:16 [mc-iam]
does it radically change what tim sent?
07:18:23 [mc-iam]
we're just on a short wire...
07:18:27 [ericP]
yes
07:18:44 [ericP]
you want to comm by voice?
07:18:58 [ericP]
(if so, i have to move to where i get reception)
07:19:20 [mc-iam]
yes it radically changes stuff? no sport i don't have time - sorry - i have another bunch of students i'm trying to pull through too. so just send it thanks
07:19:43 [mc-iam]
as i feared the formatting is way f'd right now
07:20:05 [ericP]
yeah, i'm sorry about that
07:20:35 [ericP]
i needed an elegent wood plane and had only a stubby little screwdriver
07:20:56 [mc-iam]
ya
07:21:12 [mc-iam]
well i'm looking at Tim's right now,
07:21:22 [ericP]
mine includes his
07:21:28 [ericP]
you have a copy of mine already
07:21:57 [ericP]
sent
07:22:10 [ericP]
off my network already, too
07:22:36 [ericP]
is there anything helpful i can do? or shall i go get a couple hours sleep...
07:24:24 [mc-iam]
so let me get this right: you revised on top of tim's version?
07:24:28 [mc-iam]
is that right?
07:24:54 [ericP]
yes
07:25:21 [ericP]
one conflict (that would look to you like an overwrite)
07:25:23 [mc-iam]
ok, ya i have to put in the refs again, looks like. can you type up the appropraiat categories
07:25:39 [mc-iam]
and paste them here?
07:25:50 [mc-iam]
what conflict?
07:26:02 [ericP]
from http://www.acm.org/class/1998/H.5.2.html, i pick "Interaction styles"
07:26:09 [ericP]
http://www.acm.org/class/1998/H.5.4.html : "Navigation" (less applicable than former)
07:27:00 [ericP]
oh, i never overrote it anyways
07:27:13 [ericP]
he preferred "expression" to "manipulate"
07:27:40 [ericP]
possibly learning what he meant, i prefer "see" (before "in a given situation")
07:28:06 [ericP]
i should prolly find another category...
07:28:10 [mc-iam]
ok let me get the major stuff done right now
07:28:34 [mc-iam]
and if ther's time for doing the words we'll do that? thanks alot eric for going over it
07:28:36 [ericP]
i'll quit pestering you with window dressing
07:29:37 [mc-iam]
sure
07:30:05 [ericP]
T-0230
07:32:49 [ericP]
unsure about http://www.acm.org/class/1998/E.2.html Contiguous representations
07:35:44 [mc-iam]
no worries - it's the least important part for now. if it gets accepted we can worry about archival factors like this
07:35:55 [mc-iam]
would you like to go get some sleep now?
07:36:33 [mc-iam]
all the refs have turned into 8's so i'm going through those...it's that kinda stuff. then will pdf it
07:38:50 [ericP]
yeah, i was reading the 8s aloud to amuse myself
07:39:00 [ericP]
tx a zillion for this
07:39:15 [ericP]
am now language-editing a friend's paper for school
07:39:22 [ericP]
never done, ya know
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07:51:01 [ericP]
yo yo yo, presbrey
07:51:07 [ericP]
t'sup, B?
08:06:49 [presbrey]
heeeey
08:07:05 [presbrey]
ya know me dog
08:07:28 [presbrey]
of course my disk crashed
08:07:51 [presbrey]
so I'm up watching the progress bar
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as it slowly reconstructs my file tables
08:08:29 [presbrey]
wow its been a long week
08:08:42 [ericP]
oooof, sorry, man
08:08:43 [presbrey]
how was the chinese?
08:08:56 [ericP]
yummmmy
08:09:14 [presbrey]
yeah are you finalizing paper revisions?
08:12:59 [presbrey]
I only caught a bit of the chat earlier today
08:17:09 [mc-iam]
i think it's done.
08:17:20 [mc-iam]
or as done as it can be at this point.
08:17:26 [mc-iam]
again if it's accepted, can do refinements
08:18:13 [ericP]
can you send it in, asking for an extension 'till monday to clean it up?
08:18:29 [ericP]
i got 'till monday for a tutorial proposal
08:20:09 [mc-iam]
no. they've said if the server crashes even that's no excuse. tough. you're toast
08:20:22 [ericP]
fair enough
08:20:45 [mc-iam]
here's a question
08:20:48 [mc-iam]
what track?
08:20:53 [mc-iam]
i'm guessing semantic web
08:20:57 [mc-iam]
that's what i've been going on
08:20:59 [ericP]
+1
08:21:04 [mc-iam]
ok great
08:23:02 [timbl]
I guess so
08:23:22 [ericP]
whatchoo doing up?
08:23:48 [presbrey]
lol
08:24:24 [timbl]
Just though I'd se wheter there were any gaps in this paper thingy
08:28:03 [ericP]
after than, it's HCLS2 meeting and DAWG transition call
08:28:16 [timbl]
all the refs have turned into 8's ... ooops . wondered what you had with 8's ... the traps of de facto industry standards implemented by ooo i guess ...
08:28:21 [timbl]
Disk crsh .. ouch.
08:28:59 [mc-iam]
we are officially paper 860
08:29:07 [timbl]
Well done.
08:29:18 [presbrey]
awesome
08:29:22 [timbl]
and thanks millions.
08:29:28 [mc-iam]
oh ya and all the yellow highlighting got turned into irreversible yellos, so retyped select passages
08:29:30 [mc-iam]
har!
08:29:37 [mc-iam]
oh heh, i'm delighted
08:29:41 [timbl]
What's the acceptance rate these days?
08:29:43 [mc-iam]
let's just hope folks have vision
08:29:48 [mc-iam]
it's a lottery tim
08:29:52 [mc-iam]
it's under 14%
08:30:15 [mc-iam]
i'm hoping that since this is the only system supporting direct writing to the SW
08:30:19 [timbl]
Well, it was fun anyway, right?
08:30:24 [mc-iam]
that will be seen for the obvious contribution it is
08:30:27 [mc-iam]
totally fun!
08:30:32 [mc-iam]
i'll email it to you
08:30:42 [mc-iam]
and i'll also put it in eprints as a tech report
08:30:47 [mc-iam]
so you can start using it as such
08:31:15 [mc-iam]
if there's anything you want to correct later we can do that too. we'll know early Jan about acceptance
08:31:18 [timbl]
Now, if we had spend that time coding we could have a million foaf users happily making friends by now maybe .. or not.
08:31:44 [mc-iam]
well, if this could be skinned as a foaf creator
08:31:57 [mc-iam]
i'd try to get the school to use it.
08:32:04 [mc-iam]
but now i must shift to antoher paper...
08:32:06 [mc-iam]
thank you all
08:32:30 [timbl]
If they reject it, do we (a) hawk it around elsewher (b) pubish it proudly as 'Rejeted by the nth International .." or (c) fix it up according to eth reviewers and try again next year
08:32:44 [mc-iam]
i'm a both / and kinda gal, Tim
08:33:07 [mc-iam]
iswc's also a pos. if necessary
08:33:11 [timbl]
Ok, thanks mc .. how many paers are you shepherding though this deadline?
08:33:18 [mc-iam]
anyway, anon, gents! (just two)
08:33:23 [timbl]
papers
08:33:27 [mc-iam]
two yes
08:33:35 [mc-iam]
the other one needs much more love right now...
08:33:36 [timbl]
bibi and tx amillin mc
08:33:47 [mc-iam]
mein bitte, de nada,
08:33:49 [presbrey]
bye
08:37:23 [ericP]
bed time
08:37:29 [ericP]
'night you guys
08:37:45 [presbrey]
ok eric 'night
09:21:08 [ericP]
mc-iam, i left a couple @@s in my draft
09:21:16 [ericP]
any chance you noticed them?
09:21:21 [mc-iam]
yes i got them i think
09:21:31 [ericP]
sweet! i can go to sleep
09:21:34 [mc-iam]
did you just startle yourself awake
09:21:36 [mc-iam]
?
09:21:40 [ericP]
yup
09:21:46 [mc-iam]
again, as soon as all done i'll send out copies
09:21:56 [ericP]
you've done that too, i guess
09:22:17 [ericP]
tx a zillion, and out
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13:24:31 [DanC]
congrats
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15:59:15 [yosi_s]
DanC?
16:04:46 [DanC]
yes?
16:06:18 [DanC]
yosi_s, ?
16:06:33 [yosi_s]
I've been going through cwm bugs
16:06:42 [DanC]
so I see from my inbox
16:06:48 [yosi_s]
there were a couple of yours I cannot reproduce now
16:06:58 [yosi_s]
I don't know it that's because I've fixed them
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or I'm not doing the steps right
16:07:59 [DanC]
well, you're doing your part. they're clearly in CANNOT_REPRODUCE state
16:09:09 [DanC]
ah... WORKSFORME is the term of art. http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/html/lifecycle.html
16:10:02 [DanC]
I haven't had breakfast and I have some critical HTML WG stuff to do today, so I'm not sure I can swap in the details
16:11:46 [yosi_s]
ok
16:11:57 [yosi_s]
I don't have much more time today anyway
16:12:21 [DanC]
any big-picture conclusions form your time with timbl?
16:12:31 [DanC]
release goals, for example?
16:12:51 [DanC]
if you can send mail about that in the next few days, that would be nice
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23:59:47 [presbrey]
alright, I've got an owl:sameAs patch for advogato.