IRC log of dig on 2008-06-30

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presbrey?
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topic is: DIG meets Mondays, including 7 Apr http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
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Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS Tristan presbrey yosi_s harveyj_ daniel-soton sandro
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yosi_s, Do you have some time to chat today ?
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osha
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oshani
17:28:35 [timbl]
Hi Joe
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hi tim
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18:33:56 [RalphS]
zakim, this is dig
18:33:56 [Zakim]
ok, RalphS; that matches DIG_weekly()2:30PM
18:34:00 [RalphS]
zakim, who's on the phone?
18:34:01 [Zakim]
On the phone I see MIT531, DanC, Danny
18:34:17 [RalphS]
zakim, mit531 has Joe, Lalana, Mike, Robert, Ralph
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+Joe, Lalana, Mike, Robert, Ralph; got it
18:35:33 [RalphS]
zakim, Tim just arrived in mit531
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+Tim; got it
18:36:40 [RalphS]
Meeting: DIG
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Agenda: https://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/private/diggers/2008-June/001533.html
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Regrets: Oshani
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Regrets+ Sandro
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-> https://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/private/diggers/2008-June/001511.html previous 2008-06-02
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Topic: Access control project
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http://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/.metadata.rdf
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http://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/friends/.metadata.rdf
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18:43:08 [DanC]
acls:allow takes a person in one case and a collection in another. hmm... tricky.
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18:44:06 [lkagal]
now looking at http://presbrey.servers.csail.mit.edu/ns/queries#Sparql
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(I don't see $REMOTE_USER; I guess I'm on the wrong page?)
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http://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/common.rdf#friends
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18:52:33 [DanC]
hmm... adding GRAPH support to redland would be a big deal; I don't have any indication that Dave Beckett's attention is headed that way
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18:59:07 [DanC]
scanning http://esw.w3.org/topic/SparqlImplementations ...
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<acls:ResourceAccessRule rdf:ID="rule0" acls:methods="*">
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<acls:hasAccessTo rdf:resource="." />
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<acls:allow rdf:resource="http://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/common.rdf#me" />
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</acls:ResourceAccessRule>
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<acls:ResourceAccessRule rdf:ID="rule1" acls:methods="head,get,options">
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<acls:hasAccessTo rdf:resource="." />
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<acls:allow>*</acls:allow>
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</acls:ResourceAccessRule>
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and from <http://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/common.rdf>
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<q:Sparql rdf:ID="me">
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<q:environ>%</q:environ>
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<q:query>
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BASE &lt;http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf&gt;
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PREFIX foaf: &lt;http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/&gt;
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ASK
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FROM &lt;http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf&gt;
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WHERE { &lt;#presbrey&gt; foaf:openid &lt;%{REMOTE_USER}&gt;;
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foaf:nick "Joe". }
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</q:query>
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<q:bind>r</q:bind>
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<q:eval>r.lower() == 'true'</q:eval>
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</q:Sparql>
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<q:Sparql rdf:ID="friends">
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<q:environ>%</q:environ>
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<q:query>
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BASE &lt;http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf&gt;
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PREFIX foaf: &lt;http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/&gt;
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ASK
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FROM &lt;http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf&gt;
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FROM ?friend
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WHERE { &lt;#presbrey&gt; foaf:knows ?friend .
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?friend foaf:openid &lt;%{REMOTE_USER}&gt; }
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</q:query>
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<q:bind>r</q:bind>
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<q:eval>r.lower() == 'true'</q:eval>
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</q:Sparql>
19:05:54 [DanC]
aha... http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/implementations tells us which implementations grok GRAPH...
19:07:08 [DanC]
that survey says RDFlib (in python) does GRAPH
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BASE <http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf">http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf> PREFIX foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> ASK FROM <http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf> FROM ?friend FROM ?friend2 WHERE { <#presbrey> foaf:knows ?friend . ?friend foaf:knows ?friend2 . ?friend2 foaf:openid <%{REMOTE_USER}> }
19:10:37 [timbl]
Sounds as though the seurvey needs updateing
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19:11:06 [DanC]
oh? (what did I miss?)
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http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/csail.mit.edu/group/dig/rdf-acl/lib/python/engine.py
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GRAPH ?mFOAF { ?m3 foaf:personalProfile ?myFOAF; foaf:knows ?friend }
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GRAPH ?mFOAF { ?me foaf:personalProfile ?myFOAF; foaf:knows ?friend }
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(thats a link to my engine above)
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GRAPH ?mFOAF { ?myFOAF foaf:knows ?friend }
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GRAPH ?myFOAF { ?myFOAF foaf:knows ?f1 }. GRAPH ?f1 { ?f1 foaf:knows ?f2 }.
19:16:35 [timbl__]
GRAPH means log:racine!log:semantics!log:includes
19:17:01 [DanC]
(dunno if the SPARQL spec includes the log:racine bit.)
19:17:01 [jwp_]
RAPH ?myFOAF { ?myFOAF foaf:knows ?f1 }. GRAPH ?f1 { ?f1 foaf:knows ?f2 }. GRAPH ?f2 { ?f2 foaf:openid <%{REMOTE_USER}> }.
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ewfe
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"my forest"
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19:24:05 [DanC]
[is forest of me]
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bummer SPARQL didn't pick up is/of
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graph ?myforest { ?myforest foaf:member ?user }. graph ?user { ?user foaf:openid %{REMOTE_USER} }.
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ASK GRAPH digmembers { ?X rdf:tyep digmembers }.
19:26:53 [DanC]
http://www.geni.com/
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19:27:48 [DanC]
wild... this geni thing is smart enough to come up with the label "uncle's ex-wife"
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{ diglist log:says { ?x rdf:type Digger } } => { x type Digger }
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19:39:42 [DanC]
(there are a few dozen sparql engines listed on http://esw.w3.org/topic/SparqlImplementations and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/implementations )
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19:44:18 [RalphS]
http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/bizer/ng4j/semwebclient/
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"need"... hmm...
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is GRAPH support really critical path?
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-Danny
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20:13:27 [DanC]
Zakim, unmute me
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DanC was not muted, DanC
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-DanC
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-MIT531
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DIG_weekly()2:30PM has ended
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Attendees were DanC, Danny, Joe, Lalana, Mike, Robert, Ralph, Tim
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