IRC log of dig on 2008-08-20

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00:00:59 [timbl_]
If this were a conference paper you would need a lot more references. Currently most of them are references to group work. Self-reference isn't considered cool -- doesn't spread hte kudos.
00:01:17 [oshani]
well, true
00:01:48 [oshani]
but I really don't have much from outside to refer to as well
00:01:57 [oshani]
I asked help from Lalana
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15:29:19 [stunes]
any regex ninjas here?
15:51:05 [stunes]
actually, my regex problem is moot now
15:52:00 [stunes]
was trying to do a moderately complex search and replace with Vim... resorted to doing it manually because there were few enough instances to just make that easier
16:06:58 [DanC]
how many is "few enough" I wonder? that pretty much determines your ninja status.
16:12:13 [stunes]
15-20 tops
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16:13:51 [stunes]
well, i tried the regex first but it backfired... complained about no patterns matched
16:18:13 [stunes]
the challenge was trying to replace delimiters with text in the middle
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16:22:41 [stunes]
amy
16:22:55 [amy]
hee hee, nice try :)
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17:08:01 [lkagal]
Hi oshani, do you have a min to talk about your paper ?
17:08:13 [oshani]
sure
17:09:31 [lkagal]
A couple of things ...
17:09:33 [oshani]
BTW, I will be removing the Scenario
17:09:52 [lkagal]
It reads well but its way too long.
17:10:03 [lkagal]
Ok, removing the scenario that would help.
17:10:22 [oshani]
where else can I cut down on the text?
17:12:21 [lkagal]
You could modify the intro slightly to include other semantic web browsers/consumers - for example, simile, semantic wiki - and talk about the pros and cons of the diff approaches. What are the advantages of using Tabulator ?
17:12:55 [oshani]
hmm.. yeah. I am actually working on a Related Work section (Tim asked me to add it)
17:12:59 [lkagal]
You can drop one of the tabulator citations.
17:13:28 [oshani]
oh okay, but these 2 papers talk abt 2 different aspects of Tabulator
17:14:23 [lkagal]
Two self citations in the first 2 lines is a little unusual.
17:14:53 [oshani]
I guess so :)
17:15:06 [oshani]
lkagal, this semantic wiki you talk about, is it the one being developed at RPI?
17:15:13 [oshani]
Semantic Media Wiki
17:15:18 [lkagal]
You could just cite the main tabulator page and expect that reviewers will go there and find the diff papers.
17:15:29 [oshani]
okay
17:16:38 [lkagal]
Also while reorganizing the intro, maybe you could talk about RDF and why it is important before discussing Tabulator.
17:17:24 [oshani]
hmm.. I have 2 sentences about RDF though... maybe I should move it to the top then
17:17:25 [lkagal]
You can drop two of the just ui figures - I would suggest keeping figure 5 and only talking about the the lawyer view briefly.
17:17:39 [oshani]
yep.. figures will be dropped
17:17:47 [lkagal]
As you said, the scenario is not required.
17:17:49 [oshani]
in fact I am making them all into one
17:18:06 [lkagal]
Great.
17:18:50 [lkagal]
In the future work section, could you suggest different kinds of panes that could be added to show the potential of working on this project ? Also, if you could mention the foaf pane that would be good.
17:19:25 [lkagal]
Another way to reduce to the length is the reduce the font size of the references - its a cheat I know but most reviewers don't pick up on it.
17:19:34 [oshani]
he he
17:19:43 [danbri]
oh, good timing :) i'm looking at things to plug from http://beta.foaf-project.org/ new foaf site ... is there a writeup public anywhere of foaf pane?
17:19:57 [danbri]
also, hi!
17:19:59 [lkagal]
You mention N3 notation in the pane desription without saying what it is.
17:20:09 [lkagal]
Hi danbri
17:20:18 [oshani]
danbri, I could write it up for you if it's not urgent
17:20:38 [danbri]
no screaming deadline, just ... as soon as you have something, do let me no ...
17:20:41 [danbri]
*know
17:20:49 [oshani]
lkagal, I'll add a citation to N3 - thanks!
17:21:28 [danbri]
would be good to have links to all current interesting foaf stuff from the site ...
17:21:30 [danbri]
... cos too many old demos from 2002 are dead now, and it's reflecting badly (alongside the lame website)
17:21:32 [danbri]
... and silly cos fun new stuff is happening
17:22:04 [lkagal]
Thats a good idea, danbri. Hopefully you'll get the info about the foaf pane soon.
17:22:34 [lkagal]
Oshani, another paper reduction trick is the minimize the number of lists and paragraphs.
17:22:38 [danbri]
i have a screenshot somewhere but i'm not really sure of current status
17:22:47 [oshani]
danbri, the FOAF pane in tabulator is still very embryonic though
17:22:47 [danbri]
thanks!
17:22:54 [danbri]
so is foaf ;)
17:23:13 [lkagal]
he he
17:23:41 [danbri]
hey, do you folks care to present this at the SWIG f2f during W3C tech plenary meeting? i'm just working on http://esw.w3.org/topic/SwigAtTp2008
17:25:22 [lkagal]
I'm not planning to attend, maybe Tim is. timbl, are you planning to attend the swig f2f in Oct ?
17:26:03 [lkagal]
Oshani, are you planning to attend it ?
17:27:30 [lkagal]
Also, oshani, if you'd like me to, I'd be happy to take a look at the next version of your paper.
17:28:27 [oshani]
(ohh sorry was distracted a bit)
17:28:34 [oshani]
SWIGAtTp: well, I had no idea abt that actually - so, I am not sure
17:28:53 [danbri]
my fault, late getting agenda/page together...
17:29:05 [danbri]
have a think about it, ... if you're interestd, i can make a slot
17:29:09 [oshani]
lkagal, well thanks I will send you an email when I make the changes
17:29:52 [oshani]
danbri, timbl would be the best person to attend it I think
17:30:00 [lkagal]
Ok danbri, will let you know if someone from DIG will be able to present
17:30:03 [danbri]
ok. hopefully he'll be around due to TAG f2f
17:31:22 [oshani]
lkagal, thanks a lot for the feedback!
17:31:33 [lkagal]
Sure oshani, happy to help
17:41:20 [amy]
re: Tim's schedule, noting that the TAG is Mon of the TPAC, he'd have to present Tues
18:11:28 [danbri]
amy, tuesday would be great. could you put a 'danbri would love you to join the swig f2f' note in his tues calendar, and i'll send him mail this week?
18:11:40 [amy]
will do
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a freshly installed virtual machine told me its hard drive has gone 49710 days without being checked...
21:25:46 [lkagal]
Yosi, please take a look at http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/thesis-guide.html#appendixF
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22:19:57 [DanC]
hmm... my script is buggy in such a way that it's putting up thousands of alert dialogs in sequence
22:20:03 [DanC]
is there any way to kill it?
22:26:36 [oshani]
danbri?
23:30:49 [amy]
danbri sleep types! quick ask for his credit card info
23:34:49 [danbri]
127.0.0.1
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