IRC log of dig on 2008-11-25
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- topic is: Decentralized Information Group @ MIT http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
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- Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS oshani timbl lkagal sandro ericP amy DanC Trista109 daniel-soton nelix
- 13:03:41 [timbl]
- Ah good.
- 13:34:45 [oshani]
- RalphS, is there a command to invite DIGlogger ?
- 13:54:46 [RalphS]
- nope
- 13:55:19 [oshani]
- so how does DIGlogger join the channel?
- 13:55:37 [oshani]
- or rather the room?
- 14:01:20 [timbl]
- Oshani, ralph has to make it I think.
- 14:01:21 [RalphS]
- I drag him in
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- That's funny -- my office address etc doesn't show in the default view
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- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/pac/users/3768bc1a0ad25b5082cbf5cc27827367#photoalbum
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- 18:24:04 [timbl]
- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/people/JoeLambda#JL
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- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/people/JoeLambda#JL
- 19:06:49 [AlbertAY]
- http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2008/Papers/AAAI%20SSS%202009/paper.pdf
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- 19:37:19 [lkagal]
- Albert ?
- 19:37:51 [lkagal]
- Please could you send me a link to the paper you discussed at the last DIG seminar.
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- http://people.csail.mit.edu/albert08/dig/
- 20:14:52 [kennyluck]
- I wonder why there is no functional property defined in the FOAF vocabulary so the following contradiction can be derived.
- 20:15:22 [kennyluck]
- some_race winner Kenny, timbl.
- 20:15:37 [kennyluck]
- winner a owl:FunctionalProperty.
- 20:15:57 [kennyluck]
- Kenny foaf:mostOftenUsedName "KangHao Lu".
- 20:15:57 [DanC]
- foaf:birthday would work, no?
- 20:16:10 [kennyluck]
- Ah... I see...
- 20:16:29 [kennyluck]
- But I think maybe a stronger one would be desirable.
- 20:16:34 [DanC]
- counting people with a formal system is hard.
- 20:16:41 [DanC]
- look at voting literature
- 20:17:14 [kennyluck]
- At least I think something like mostOftenUsedName might be nice.
- 20:18:02 [kennyluck]
- hmm...I didn't notice foaf:birthday should be a functional property.
- 20:18:28 [kennyluck]
- I just searched the foaf spec and didn't find a functional property.
- 20:19:11 [DanC]
- indeed, it's not documented as functional. http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_birthday
- 20:20:25 [kennyluck]
- not in the ontology neither.
- 20:20:54 [kennyluck]
- Sorry, I was wrong.
- 20:21:03 [kennyluck]
- It's in the ontology.
- 20:22:56 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...then I should say..putting your birthday in your FOAF prevents identity theft.
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- 20:39:04 [DanC]
- where was the tabulator release announced? it hasn't crossed my radar except by obliq reference
- 20:41:10 [sandro]
- To: danbri@danbri.org, tabulator@csail.MIT.EDU, diggers@csail.MIT.EDU
- 20:41:18 [sandro]
- Cc: tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- 20:41:18 [sandro]
- Subject: [DIGgers] Tabulator 0.8.7 Released
- 20:44:10 [DanC]
- hmm... I'm on diggers; maybe a whiltelist issue
- 20:44:26 [DanC]
- still... neither of those is a public forum
- 20:48:05 [timbl]
- No... there is a bug so you can see what the social pane looks liek but if you us it to mint a web id then the window yoou were using becoems dysfunctional.
- 20:49:15 [timbl]
- DanC, do yo have it installed or on SVN ?
- 20:49:50 [DanC]
- dunno... neither in recent memeory
- 20:52:00 [timbl]
- Oh, the I suggest you go to the addons.mozilla.org site and install it from there - then you sill get updates automatically
- 20:55:05 [kennyluck]
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- 20:57:55 [DanC]
- interesting... does publishing on addons.mozilla.org involve digital signatures?
- 20:58:47 [timbl]
- No. Publishing elswehere with autoupdate does.
- 20:59:13 [timbl]
- but AMO is a little site with its close dworld auth.
- 21:00:08 [DanC]
- does AMO check you out in any way before letting you trade on their good name?
- 21:01:15 [timbl]
- they put you in a sandbox where only those with accounts can install from you until you have passed a hazing
- 21:01:34 [timbl]
- wel got votes i think
- 21:02:05 [DanC]
- ok. that's kinda cool
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- 21:40:44 [DanC]
- I just got another "Itinerary Approval Needed" message with 3 itinerary options.
- 21:40:58 [DanC]
- I'm tempted to port my itinerary parsing stuff to javascript
- 21:41:10 [DanC]
- I wonder about bookmarklet security policies
- 21:45:20 [DanC]
- hmm... my python code can't get the lat/long from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport
- 21:58:26 [yosi_s]
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- 21:58:55 [yosi_s]
- timbl?
- 21:59:06 [yosi_s]
- is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cwm-bugs/2008Nov/0000.html a bug, or the correct behavior?
- 22:21:21 [Pipian_]
- Hum, I do not know myself.
- 22:24:33 [Pipian_]
- Hmm... Yeah, seems to be a bug.
- 22:29:54 [Pipian_]
- Ah, I see what it is.
- 22:30:29 [Pipian_]
- Does the 'common host' matching before checking for a fragment difference.
- 22:30:52 [DanC]
- I vote bug on that one, yosi_s
- 22:31:21 [Pipian_]
- or rather, the common host regexp may be off
- 22:34:46 [Pipian_]
- Aha. Got it. Has to do with the fact that the fragment is just off the top level.
- 22:39:00 [yosi_s]
- it's the lines
- 22:39:04 [yosi_s]
- if uri[l+1:l+2] != "/" and base[l+1:l+2] != "/" and uri[:l]==base[:l]:
- 22:39:06 [yosi_s]
- return uri[l:]
- 22:39:27 [Pipian_]
- Yeah
- 22:39:35 [kennyluck]
- I really think we should use those provided by the standard library.
- 22:39:47 [Pipian_]
- Moving the fragment pattern match above the common host match works just fine.
- 22:42:47 [Pipian_]
- Committed that change (the one-liner move and an added test)
- 22:43:30 [DanC]
- I don't think the python standard library has anything like refTo, kennyluck
- 22:44:28 [DanC]
- before you recommend the python stdlib for uriparsing, I wonder if you've checked stuff like http://esw.w3.org/topic/UriTesting
- 22:46:33 [yosi_s]
- Pipian_, can you send an e-mail to the list that the bug is closed?
- 22:46:38 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...Since I found out that in tabulator the uri resolving fails even for some common uri (including those with colon), I tend to believe in those provided by the browser.
- 22:46:48 [Pipian_]
- Doing so. Need to subscribe to it anyway
- 22:46:50 [kennyluck]
- Not sure about how Python is like.
- 22:47:52 [DanC]
- darn... conflicts when I update...
- 22:48:02 [DanC]
- Merging differences between 1.95 and 1.99 into query.py
- 22:48:02 [DanC]
- rcsmerge: warning: conflicts during merge
- 22:49:21 [DanC]
- hm... I don't see your commit, Pipian_ . I still see uripath.py,v 1.21 2007/06/26 02:36:16 syosi
- 22:49:34 [DanC]
- is there some other place to commit?
- 22:49:49 [Pipian_]
- Ah, this is on the TAMI side of things.
- 22:49:56 [Pipian_]
- Um
- 22:50:24 [Pipian_]
- https://svn.csail.mit.edu/dig/TAMI/2007/cwmrete/tmswap
- 22:50:31 [Pipian_]
- it's not the full cwm tree either
- 22:50:51 [Pipian_]
- I can look into backporting a couple of the small bugfixes I've made back to the original cwm tree.
- 22:51:14 [DanC]
- that would be nice in this case
- 22:51:28 [DanC]
- I doubt you have write access though
- 22:51:48 [Pipian_]
- Probably not. I'll have to bug Tim about it next week. He just left for the week.
- 22:53:11 [DanC]
- the whole write access business with SVN and CVS is so boring. I much prefer DVCS. http://homer.w3.org/~connolly/projects/
- 22:53:35 [yosi_s]
- Pipian_, if you want write access, talk to Ralph about how this is done
- 22:53:40 [Pipian_]
- Ah
- 22:53:43 [Pipian_]
- That will work.
- 22:54:18 [Pipian_]
- Will e-mail the list when I get it committed to the main tree.
- 22:54:41 [yosi_s]
- that sounds like a plan
- 22:55:18 [yosi_s]
- for committing to w3c cvs, you'll need an SSH key, but I don't remember the details
- 22:55:22 [Pipian_]
- That may not be until tomorrow. Ralph might have gone home for the day.
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- 22:55:45 [yosi_s]
- Ralph leaves around 4:25 usually I think
- 22:55:46 [DanC]
- speaking of UriTesting in the ESW wiki... http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2004/08/04/Urlnorm is news to me
- 22:56:38 [Pipian_]
- Ah, well that would answer my question.
- 22:57:53 [Pipian_]
- Well, I'm cutting out for the day as well. That bug's the first thing I'll finish up with tomorrow morning.
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- 23:00:27 [DanC]
- wierd... urlnorm shouldn't be news to me; I added the pointer in Feb 2006
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