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15:32:56 [ericP]fturkmen, XACML Runtime is hillariously complex
15:33:03 [ericP]but comprehensible
15:33:16 [ericP]the numbers make a big difference
15:35:26 [fturkmen]ericP, yeah actually the enforcement architecture is enough generic to apply in many different scenarios
15:37:00 [fturkmen]for the numbers, the tendency (especially in big organizations) is having large numbers of entities (rules, policies, subjects, resources etc)
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15:58:53 [ericP]fturkmen, i was going to send http://www.w3.org/2009/Talks/0504-swobjects-ep/acls out as a teaser for next weeks HCLS call
15:59:40 [ericP]if you have suggestions in the next 4 mins, let me know
16:08:02 [fturkmen]:)
16:08:46 [fturkmen]a bit late, I will send something on monday with more details
16:08:56 [fturkmen]that is ok right?
16:09:16 [fturkmen]and we can have a short meeting on the same day
16:09:18 [fturkmen]?
16:10:44 [ericP]sounds fine
16:11:29 [ericP]we can revise this any time; i just wanted to get some idea written down so folks would know what to expect
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16:11:55 [fturkmen]I see
16:12:04 [fturkmen]ok
16:12:29 [ericP]it's like an abstract and a taunt for new information, all in one package
16:13:37 [fturkmen]great then, we can talk about the architecture too
16:13:48 [fturkmen]how much time do we have in general?
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16:39:41 [ericP]fturkmen, i guess about 30 mins
16:39:49 [ericP]20 mins
16:40:19 [fturkmen]Ok
16:40:30 [ericP]was going to have kenny talk before us so we could brainstorm with folks about how to use the tabulator interface
16:41:31 [fturkmen]I see
16:41:34 [fturkmen]that sounds good
16:41:58 [fturkmen]so lets meet on monday and shape the ideas
16:42:18 [fturkmen]now I am heading to the department
16:42:34 [fturkmen]see you later
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17:52:06 [amy]Joe is here w/ his Dad, I think
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19:17:00 [kennyluck]timbl, did you discuss with charles2 on the vocabulary to link a non-updatable FOAF to an updatable space?
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19:36:08 [kennyluck]timbl, can we ask your opinion on the title of the paper?
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20:37:01 [lkagal]ericP, http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Talks/0514-XACMLSemantics-vlad/
20:37:23 [lkagal]His thesis is available at http://www.mindswap.org/~kolovski/VladimirKolovskiDissertation.pdf
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21:07:22 [ericP]ACTION: lkagal to send ericP vlad's email
21:23:14 [kennyluck]timbl, this is a pointer to some of the things with discussed for the paper
21:23:15 [kennyluck]http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/tms_web/misc/meeting
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21:39:32 [timbl]thanks
21:40:51 [timbl]semanticsIncludes I wanted to put in cwm but found it was tricky as includes is a special form of built-in which is optimized into the query.
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