IRC log of dig on 2009-06-22

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01:38:47 [oshani]
hello kennyluck
01:39:01 [kennyluck]
just woke up...
01:39:02 [oshani]
do you want to commit your changes?
01:39:06 [oshani]
please do so
01:39:11 [kennyluck]
Yes
01:39:12 [oshani]
then we can go through it
01:39:21 [kennyluck]
Is that OK?
01:39:35 [kennyluck]
not going to cause conflict with the scenario part?
01:39:37 [oshani]
well, I've committed all my changes
01:39:50 [oshani]
so, the conflict would be on your side :)
01:39:58 [kennyluck]
Oh OK, so let me do a svn up first
01:40:07 [oshani]
back up your version first
01:40:16 [kennyluck]
By the way, do you have omni graffle?
01:40:21 [oshani]
nope
01:40:41 [kennyluck]
I produced a diagram with omni graffle but when I try to export into JPG it crashes.
01:40:46 [kennyluck]
sadly
01:40:50 [oshani]
oh no
01:41:22 [oshani]
well, did you try any other format? png?
01:42:06 [kennyluck]
They all crash, so I all take a screen shot.
01:42:20 [oshani]
okay
01:42:29 [kennyluck]
Hmm...actually pdf works...
01:42:37 [kennyluck]
Is pdf picture OK, I wonder
01:42:50 [kennyluck]
sounds weird
01:42:58 [oshani]
can you commit the pdf.. I'll see whether I can embed it
01:43:06 [kennyluck]
Sure
01:43:06 [oshani]
I know that eps format for images work
01:43:21 [kennyluck]
I can do this right now, before resolving the conflicts
01:43:35 [oshani]
BTW, I still think we ought to have a diagram for the proof ontology -- even if it's likely to change in the future
01:44:06 [kennyluck]
That's see whether we can make it
01:44:36 [kennyluck]
just tms:justification tms:And-justification etc, are just separate terms
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01:45:02 [kennyluck]
They don't have ontology structure so I can't really imagine how the diagram looks like
01:45:43 [oshani]
also, I believe some of the things you've written needs to be phrased in a bit more scholarly manner --- re "as pointed out by an attendant at the Cambridge Semantic Web Gathering \ref{slides" :)
01:46:09 [kennyluck]
Yes
01:47:03 [oshani]
kennyluck, ping me when you commit the pdf
01:48:58 [kennyluck]
committed images/Linked_Data_GC.pdf, oshani
01:54:54 [oshani]
kennyluck, the labels for the nodes seem to be overlapping
01:55:02 [oshani]
is that how you wanted it to be?
01:55:22 [kennyluck]
you when overlapping the circles?
01:55:36 [oshani]
yep
01:55:51 [kennyluck]
guess, It's a bit confusing, I can fix it
01:55:58 [oshani]
great
01:57:52 [oshani]
kennyluck, I can embed pdf -- so no worries there
01:57:55 [oshani]
:)
01:58:07 [kennyluck]
OK nice
01:58:45 [oshani]
so ping me back when you've commited the changes to the paper -- in the mean time, I am going to proof read
01:58:57 [kennyluck]
OK
02:11:34 [kennyluck]
I finally know how to run the latex commands on login.csail.mit.edu
02:11:54 [kennyluck]
So let me produce a pdf version...oshani
02:16:32 [oshani]
done?
02:16:35 [oshani]
kennyluck:
02:16:40 [kennyluck]
Hmm... some multiply defined lables, etc.
02:16:42 [kennyluck]
I can fix it
02:20:15 [kennyluck]
by the way, if you have any idea about how to draw the tms vocabulary diagram, go ahead.
02:20:18 [kennyluck]
oshani
02:23:25 [oshani]
oh okay
02:25:43 [oshani]
well, kennyluck, we already have 18 pages! adding a new diagram will not help -- so, I don't think we should do it
02:25:55 [oshani]
so, is it okay if I start editing now?
02:26:20 [oshani]
I'll commit the pdf if you wanna see
02:26:24 [kennyluck]
What a sec, what's your adding?
02:26:51 [oshani]
just making edits - grammar style spelling etc
02:26:59 [oshani]
needs lot of work on that I think
02:27:09 [kennyluck]
OK, I am done now, finally resolve all the label warnings
02:29:48 [oshani]
so, what are you gonna do now?
02:30:08 [oshani]
do you also want to read from the top and note the mistakes?
02:33:53 [kennyluck]
Hmm, I want to rewrite the Conclusion part.
02:34:05 [oshani]
kennyluck, that sounds good
02:34:09 [oshani]
so, go ahead
02:34:10 [kennyluck]
There's also a @@refine symbol here.
02:34:15 [oshani]
yep..
02:34:28 [kennyluck]
Then I guess we can disscuss the overall structure later one
02:34:33 [kennyluck]
s/one/on/
02:34:49 [oshani]
good good
02:35:01 [oshani]
I'll be making changes from the top
02:35:15 [kennyluck]
OK
02:35:41 [kennyluck]
By the way, could you read the Garbage Collection parts part to see whether it makes sense
02:35:49 [oshani]
will do
02:35:56 [kennyluck]
in the future work section
02:37:43 [oshani]
I am gonna remove one of the proof images
02:37:50 [oshani]
to save space
02:38:30 [kennyluck]
Hmm...which one?
02:39:06 [kennyluck]
I would want to preserve all the pictures though.
02:39:09 [oshani]
fig 4:
02:39:40 [kennyluck]
I think the introduction is a bit long, I removed the first paragraph, which I wrote, FYI
02:40:15 [oshani]
oh okay
02:40:24 [oshani]
committed in?
02:40:36 [kennyluck]
No no, I have removed it
02:40:43 [kennyluck]
or commented out
02:41:00 [kennyluck]
Semantic Web is a Web of machine...
02:41:13 [oshani]
yep.. I see it
02:41:18 [kennyluck]
guess it's cliche for semantic web researchers :)
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03:11:03 [kennyluck]
oshani, I finished the conclusion. guess it's a bit vague
03:11:23 [oshani]
committed?
03:11:58 [kennyluck]
Not yet, I can do it now
03:14:35 [kennyluck]
oh you committed
03:15:52 [kennyluck]
oshani
03:16:04 [oshani]
okay.. thanks
03:18:34 [kennyluck]
I am going to split out the rule in the chained-proof section into 3 rules. Just a listing
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03:38:25 [kennyluck]
I modified a bit in the chained proofs section, what do I do?
03:38:26 [kennyluck]
oshani
03:38:40 [oshani]
commit it
03:38:53 [oshani]
I am still working on the Motivation
03:39:07 [kennyluck]
sorry about my poor English
03:39:29 [oshani]
well, my English isn't any better :)
03:39:43 [kennyluck]
It's obvious, anyway.
03:39:49 [kennyluck]
I mean,
03:39:59 [kennyluck]
My english is obviously worse.
03:44:48 [kennyluck]
oshani
03:45:03 [oshani]
okay
03:46:21 [kennyluck]
I'll read this from start
03:47:32 [kennyluck]
oshani, did you overwrite my change on the desired features section?
03:48:00 [oshani]
kennyluck, no I merged it with the motivation
03:48:21 [oshani]
check 2.3
03:48:49 [kennyluck]
I mean I changed the subsection such as the never ending crawler
03:49:15 [kennyluck]
don't know I don't see this any more, maybe I overwritten it myself. Let me check
03:49:26 [oshani]
well, I see it in my version -- section 2.3
03:49:54 [kennyluck]
Can you copy that here?
03:50:12 [oshani]
\subsection{Desired Features}\label{features}
03:50:13 [oshani]
We introduce the idea of formally describing a `Computing Service' or an `Agent' using rules grounded in Semantic Web technologies. This `Agent' has the following features:
03:50:13 [oshani]
03:50:13 [oshani]
\subsubsection{Never Ending Crawler}
03:50:13 [oshani]
There is no limit to the Linked Open Data cloud. Therefore, the required data pertaining to a given query could be somewhere out there. Therefore we have designed our crawler to look for the required data progressively. In other words, it would not stop when a particular data item has been found.
03:50:27 [kennyluck]
Yep, that's a different one
03:50:30 [kennyluck]
sigh...
03:50:35 [kennyluck]
I changed it
03:50:42 [oshani]
oh no..
03:50:50 [oshani]
when?
03:51:05 [kennyluck]
Let me figure out what happened. Don't worry.
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04:06:10 [kennyluck]
hmm...very old, I made weird mistakes it seems, I will commit again
04:06:14 [kennyluck]
odd
04:07:19 [kennyluck]
at least I have what I wrote in the terminal...
04:10:35 [kennyluck]
I see what's going on now, It seems there are two copy of the desired feature section...
04:11:08 [kennyluck]
did you notice that, oshani?
04:12:07 [oshani]
oh yeah
04:12:30 [kennyluck]
let me remove it
04:12:40 [oshani]
wait
04:12:49 [oshani]
shall I commit my changes first?
04:13:07 [kennyluck]
Sure
04:13:39 [oshani]
done .. go ahead
04:13:46 [kennyluck]
After that could you wait until I resolve this
04:13:53 [oshani]
okay
04:13:59 [oshani]
I will look at the conclusion
04:14:04 [oshani]
in the mean time
04:14:17 [kennyluck]
okay, thanks
04:24:02 [kennyluck]
oshani, I am very confused about this
04:24:10 [oshani]
kennyluck, you've got a reference to this "The third author imagined the Web to be an immortal brain where the machines work as if they are neurons"?
04:24:13 [oshani]
about what?
04:24:23 [kennyluck]
where should this "Desired Feature" go?
04:24:33 [oshani]
it should go under "Motivations"
04:24:36 [kennyluck]
oshani, you are the reference!
04:24:42 [kennyluck]
Oh, ok.
04:25:15 [oshani]
not sure if timbl would like the idea of referring to himself in the paper
04:25:31 [oshani]
timbl, any comments if you are listening?
04:25:48 [kennyluck]
Hmm...
04:26:25 [oshani]
instead we could say something like... "The vision of the Web.."
04:26:30 [oshani]
how's that sound?
04:27:26 [oshani]
kennyluck, and I am going to add a citation from the Scientific American article for that
04:27:39 [kennyluck]
But I am not the person to talk about the vision of the Web!
04:28:01 [kennyluck]
Is that where this vision is from?
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04:30:10 [kennyluck]
Hmm...I am about to commit the change
04:38:05 [kennyluck]
Ah, I like your change in the first Part of 2.1, oshani
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04:47:48 [kennyluck]
we have 4 hours more or so, seems to be enough
04:47:56 [oshani]
:)
04:48:00 [oshani]
check conclusion
04:48:05 [oshani]
just committed it
04:48:44 [kennyluck]
Hmm, what do we do now?
04:48:47 [kennyluck]
oshani
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04:49:11 [oshani]
I am going through the rest of the motivation and cleaning it up
04:49:20 [oshani]
you pick something to do -- I dunno
04:49:28 [kennyluck]
Hah..
05:07:54 [oshani]
kennyluck, I am gonna remove the smart ppl example -- don't feel good abt it
05:08:07 [kennyluck]
why not?
05:08:36 [kennyluck]
the attendants of the meetup like this example, though.
05:09:14 [kennyluck]
Just want to describe the issues around grading and stuff.
05:09:40 [kennyluck]
So we consider a customizable grading user interface to be important
05:10:59 [kennyluck]
And it is just described with words...
05:11:34 [oshani]
oh okay -- so I'll leave it there, since you are so persistent :)
05:12:01 [kennyluck]
Just want to describe what does it mean to be "valuing information"
05:12:09 [kennyluck]
value itself is contravertial
05:13:19 [kennyluck]
FYI, I believe if this is all open, we can tag the employer who selects only "smart people" as bad person.
05:13:37 [kennyluck]
I personally think so.
05:13:56 [kennyluck]
I hate companies, in fact.
05:14:30 [oshani]
:)
05:14:51 [oshani]
kenny the socialist :P
05:14:58 [kennyluck]
Yes,
05:15:15 [kennyluck]
I believe school ranking, grade, all this stuff to be stupid
05:15:25 [kennyluck]
So I made this example.
05:19:47 [oshani]
hey kennyluck, if you are idling now -- can you make a list of things "source code and demos" to submit as additional stuff?
05:19:58 [oshani]
for example link to the passive agent?
05:20:10 [oshani]
commit it as a text file please
05:20:29 [kennyluck]
Hmm...I am actually looking at the feaures part now
05:20:36 [kennyluck]
conflict again, it seesm
05:20:54 [oshani]
uh-oh
05:22:51 [kennyluck]
oh, good news oshani, the source has nothing wrong
05:22:59 [kennyluck]
It seems that the pdf is outdated though
05:23:12 [oshani]
okay
05:29:15 [kennyluck]
No...I don't understand what's going on now
05:29:53 [oshani]
if you haven't made any changes, I suggest you delete and get an svn up
05:32:00 [kennyluck]
I am very confused about the feature part now..
05:32:11 [kennyluck]
Do you have two feature part in your version?
05:32:24 [kennyluck]
oshani
05:32:42 [oshani]
nope -- just one
05:32:46 [oshani]
under motivation
05:33:04 [kennyluck]
hmm...let me check again
05:36:01 [kennyluck]
You moved so much part
05:36:22 [oshani]
??
05:37:12 [kennyluck]
for example you move motivation to 4.5 and so on...
05:37:24 [oshani]
ah yes, the rule...
05:37:42 [oshani]
I thought it would be nice to have it referred from one place
05:37:49 [oshani]
instead of several places
05:38:02 [kennyluck]
Hmm...ok
05:38:21 [kennyluck]
Other big changes you did?
05:38:22 [oshani]
and that makes the motivation section a bit more consistent as well
05:38:36 [oshani]
since we don't write rules for the others
05:38:54 [oshani]
well, I am making some changes to the features -- mostly language and style
05:39:49 [kennyluck]
Why did you remove this line "The other use case would occur when there are contradictory information. For example, if a person is both a good person and a bad person. The user can naively compare the proof counts."?
05:40:09 [kennyluck]
Sorry I guess I should do a update now, maybe the reason is written in the source
05:41:49 [oshani]
kennyluck, I wanted to move away from labelling people as good and bad
05:41:58 [oshani]
does not seem that ethical
05:42:17 [oshani]
perhaps we can take something like a "Youtube" video rating?
05:42:30 [oshani]
some ppl will say it's good and some would say it's bad
05:42:37 [oshani]
and the relative count will hold
05:42:42 [oshani]
sounds good?
05:43:03 [kennyluck]
Sure, any thing that can be described both as good or bad
05:48:31 [kennyluck]
How does will it take for finalization grammar and style issues, oshani? There are two other issues I want to discuss with you.
05:49:06 [oshani]
go ahead.. I'm listening
05:50:15 [kennyluck]
First of all, I feel like we should move the User Interface forward of give pointers at the end of the introduction to the user interface part.
05:50:42 [kennyluck]
This paper contains too many bullshits (I know, most of them are produced by me)
05:51:23 [kennyluck]
Since you don't like "The paper is lenghy"... what for about "For the impatient readers..."
05:53:54 [kennyluck]
and gives a pointer to the user interface section and the slides
05:54:07 [kennyluck]
or we just move the user interface part forward?
06:13:35 [oshani]
kennyluck, I think we can give the slides as additional information
06:13:47 [oshani]
-1 for moving the UI forward
06:13:57 [kennyluck]
I am creating the txt file
06:14:14 [kennyluck]
Or is it possible to submit URIs?
06:14:23 [oshani]
yes we can
06:14:27 [oshani]
I think
06:15:45 [kennyluck]
I am thinking about something like "The impatient reader is encouraged to glance over the slides [18] or to take a look at the User Interface section 4.5"
06:16:30 [kennyluck]
By the way, I am making a zip release of the code
06:24:11 [oshani]
Okay, that's good
06:24:29 [oshani]
well, I'll include that as a foot note.. sounds good?
06:24:52 [oshani]
kennyluck:
06:25:18 [kennyluck]
Hmm.. I would prefer inline text though
06:25:32 [kennyluck]
Really thinks the motivation is kind of boring
06:25:51 [oshani]
well, that's how scholarly works are :)
06:26:13 [oshani]
you have to go thru the boring stuff to get to the fun bits
06:26:16 [kennyluck]
I think "For impatient reader" is humble enough
06:26:33 [kennyluck]
hmm... I don't know.
06:26:47 [oshani]
I don't like the idea of putting that inline, because it looks as if it's a GOTO
06:26:51 [kennyluck]
If I am the reader I would like be that patient to read all these stuff
06:26:57 [oshani]
IMHO, the text should logically follow
06:27:11 [kennyluck]
hmm, alright
06:27:27 [oshani]
aha.. note that our readers will be very different from us -- the boring academic types ;)
06:28:41 [kennyluck]
not david hyuhn, I believe
06:29:03 [kennyluck]
All the Semantic Web people are young
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06:35:40 [oshani]
kennyluck, there are some spelling mistakes in the slides, you might wanna correct them?
06:35:48 [oshani]
run a spell-checker?
06:36:02 [kennyluck]
Hmm.. after I've done this extra.txt
06:36:21 [kennyluck]
Also the paper is also in a urgent status. I think
06:36:26 [kennyluck]
How's it going, oshani?
06:36:50 [oshani]
now in the design and impl
07:04:46 [kennyluck]
oshani...
07:04:47 [kennyluck]
7 Conclusion
07:04:47 [kennyluck]
This includes the protocols and several workarounds to circumvent some tech-
07:04:48 [kennyluck]
nical difficulties. All these decisions are far from being standardized. Therefore,
07:04:48 [kennyluck]
they are sub ject to change, but we expect later versions of the current imple-
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mentation to be backwards compatible.
07:04:53 [kennyluck]
What is this?
07:05:37 [oshani]
Ah, well, I moved that from the Design to the Conclusion -- because we should caution the readers in the conclusion
07:06:07 [oshani]
will fix it with a good flow
07:06:10 [oshani]
gimme a min
07:10:15 [kennyluck]
Ah, good writing on the valuing information part
07:35:50 [kennyluck]
oshani, I noticed that you have finished Sec 4, what are you doing now?
07:36:09 [oshani]
just finished sec 6
07:41:20 [kennyluck]
Some bugs I found
07:42:21 [kennyluck]
1. in 4.2 the latter SPARQL Update lacks braces for the INSERT clause
07:45:09 [kennyluck]
2. the sentence "A client can create a
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new document by posting an INSERT to a server which implements this update
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protocol." in 4.2 is kind of confusing
07:48:47 [kennyluck]
3. "This chain of deduction is implemented with the following simplified N3 rule:" in the section "Chained Proof"
07:49:14 [kennyluck]
should be "The last rule of this chain is implemented..."
07:52:20 [kennyluck]
are you OK, oshani?
07:54:14 [oshani]
yeah yeah.. gimme a sec
07:54:49 [oshani]
why is that sentence confusing?
07:56:32 [kennyluck]
because in the following example, no new document is created.
07:56:50 [kennyluck]
So the "For example" there looks strange..
07:57:08 [oshani]
ah okay
07:57:10 [kennyluck]
I would prefer to delete the sentence
07:58:01 [kennyluck]
You must be very tired... 4 am
08:00:16 [kennyluck]
4 (Sec 2.3 - Support Generalized Rules) should it be "can be used to give" not "can be used give"?
08:05:10 [oshani]
kennyluck, I think I am done -- included your changes 1-4
08:05:34 [oshani]
now printing off to read...
08:05:42 [kennyluck]
hold on
08:05:49 [oshani]
okay
08:05:58 [kennyluck]
how about the footnode linking to the user interface section?
08:06:19 [oshani]
but wouldn't that be too late?
08:06:45 [oshani]
kennyluck:
08:06:55 [kennyluck]
too late?
08:07:10 [oshani]
I thought you wanted the reader to look at the slides before reading the rest of the paper
08:07:46 [kennyluck]
e a look at the User Interface section 4.5"
08:07:46 [kennyluck]
[15:16] kennyluck: By the way, I am making a zip release of the code
08:07:47 [kennyluck]
[15:24] oshani: Okay, that's good
08:07:47 [kennyluck]
[15:24] oshani: well, I'll include that as a foot note.. sounds good?
08:07:54 [kennyluck]
Yep, so why would be too late?
08:08:00 [kennyluck]
s/why/what
08:08:33 [kennyluck]
oshani,
08:08:36 [oshani]
are you checking the latest version?
08:08:49 [oshani]
because I included the footnote in the intro
08:09:00 [oshani]
and linked to the slides and the UI section
08:09:04 [kennyluck]
ohh, maybe I didn't notice that
08:09:37 [kennyluck]
is that on p3, oshani
08:09:39 [kennyluck]
page 3
08:10:12 [oshani]
no page 2
08:11:01 [kennyluck]
weird, I see nothing in the pdf
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08:11:09 [kennyluck]
I guess I should create a new pdf
08:11:26 [oshani]
no, it's in the pdf
08:12:23 [kennyluck]
now I see it, maybe cached.
08:12:29 [kennyluck]
hmm other minor bugs
08:12:50 [kennyluck]
<N3
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URI> format:content-type “text/n3’,
08:12:55 [kennyluck]
Section 3.1
08:13:06 [kennyluck]
the last should be a double quote.
08:13:19 [kennyluck]
If you don't care. Then that's fine
08:13:20 [oshani]
ah.. okat
08:13:34 [oshani]
no, please do report errors like that
08:14:09 [oshani]
"Communication via SPARQL Update to my URI is welcome and recommended." :D
08:14:16 [kennyluck]
two other issues
08:14:21 [kennyluck]
yep,
08:14:31 [kennyluck]
1. should we give a pointer to this text file?
08:15:09 [oshani]
Don't think it's required, because I'll submit it as an additional file
08:15:25 [kennyluck]
Hmm, for normal reader, not the reviewer..
08:15:41 [kennyluck]
don't know, the URI for it is http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/lod-computations/README
08:15:52 [kennyluck]
oshani
08:15:56 [oshani]
oky
08:17:55 [kennyluck]
So the really last big thing
08:18:37 [oshani]
what?
08:18:51 [kennyluck]
As this is my first paper and maybe it's even the last one. I would really want to put the Acknowledgements in.
08:18:59 [kennyluck]
What do you think? Any workaround?
08:19:19 [oshani]
:) -- yeah but you cannot ack timbl as he's one of the authors
08:19:36 [oshani]
how come this is your first paper??
08:20:01 [kennyluck]
Hmm... at least I pay a lot of attention to it
08:20:17 [kennyluck]
The one I work with shou, I didn't even read the paper.
08:20:39 [kennyluck]
For the tabulator paper, I was noticed that a paper was produced after it is in some archive
08:21:11 [oshani]
:)
08:21:16 [kennyluck]
I don't know. Just think I should do this at least once.
08:27:12 [kennyluck]
oshani, where did you put the README?
08:27:20 [kennyluck]
Or you decide not to do so?
08:27:29 [oshani]
just before the Related Work
08:27:41 [oshani]
looking for the right words to describe it
08:29:48 [oshani]
kennyluck, okay committed check again
08:29:49 [kennyluck]
Sorry, one more small thing, can you somehow write a footnote in the firstpage saying "The paper is given the URI http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/lod-computations/paper . We might produce an HTML version of this paper in near future. "
08:30:20 [oshani]
um, that's not related kennyluck
08:30:29 [kennyluck]
related?
08:30:34 [oshani]
why would someone reading the paper wanna know that?
08:30:57 [kennyluck]
because the HTML version might contain more information
08:31:19 [kennyluck]
Anyway, I document with a URI is updatable.
08:31:39 [kennyluck]
That is, we can keep editing it.
08:31:42 [kennyluck]
s/I/a/
08:31:59 [oshani]
you are impossible :P
08:32:09 [oshani]
okay.. gonna make this change
08:32:20 [kennyluck]
meaning?
08:32:21 [oshani]
but this is the last one of the kind okay? :)
08:32:29 [kennyluck]
Am I asking too much?
08:32:32 [oshani]
I really want to submit this and go home
08:32:40 [kennyluck]
Oh, sorry.
08:32:46 [kennyluck]
Yes, should be the last one.
08:35:17 [oshani]
it seems that I cannot put URIs to the title
08:35:27 [oshani]
got any suggestions?
08:35:42 [oshani]
I can link it from the README thing
08:35:57 [kennyluck]
footnote?
08:36:05 [oshani]
yeah
08:36:20 [oshani]
s/URI/footnote above
08:36:38 [kennyluck]
What about a random place in the first page
08:36:44 [kennyluck]
such as Section 1
08:36:56 [oshani]
nope titles won't work
08:36:59 [oshani]
already tried
08:37:10 [kennyluck]
Oh, then never mind
08:37:17 [kennyluck]
nono...
08:37:27 [kennyluck]
I mean please link it from the README
08:37:33 [kennyluck]
oshani
08:37:36 [oshani]
okay
08:37:44 [kennyluck]
Thanks!
08:37:52 [oshani]
\footnote{The URI of this paper is \url{http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/lod-computations/paper}. Feel free to link to this in the LOD!}
08:38:15 [kennyluck]
yay
08:38:17 [oshani]
didn't mention that we don't have a =n HTML version yet
08:38:26 [oshani]
since you are gonna do it soon ;)
08:38:31 [kennyluck]
no problem, I think
08:38:45 [kennyluck]
Yep, hopefully. Got a presentation tomorrow
08:39:08 [kennyluck]
I think we can submit the paper,
08:39:18 [kennyluck]
Let's forget about reviewing it
08:39:24 [kennyluck]
I guess It's good enough
08:51:17 [kennyluck]
oshani, are you there?
08:51:37 [oshani]
yep.. just submitted, but looking through it once again
08:51:48 [kennyluck]
cool, oshani.
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09:16:39 [kennyluck]
tell me when you are all done, oshani.
09:32:15 [kennyluck]
Anyway, I have to thank you very much, oshani.
09:32:44 [kennyluck]
byebye
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22:59:56 [presbrey]
I am testing with 'select ?s ?p ?o' so I'll check on your insert status later
23:02:28 [presbrey]
yes! very cool ericP. cout << db. worked
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req_uri: https://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/,meta.n3
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filename: /srv/www/html/,meta.n3
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{
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_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#Authorization> .
23:02:44 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#mode> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#Read> .
23:02:44 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#mode> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#Write> .
23:02:44 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#mode> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#Control> .
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_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#accessTo> <https://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/.> .
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_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#agent> <http://presbrey.mit.edu/foaf#presbrey> .
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_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#agent> <http://test.foaf-ssl.org/certs/1236058546332.rdf#accnt> .
23:02:55 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#agent> <http://test.foaf-ssl.org/certs/1238884326438.rdf#accnt> .
23:02:58 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cd9550 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#agent> <http://test.foaf-ssl.org/certs/1240861433082.rdf#accnt> .
23:03:01 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cc9d50 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#Authorization> .
23:03:04 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cc9d50 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#mode> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#Read> .
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_:b0x7f7763cc9d50 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#accessTo> <https://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/.> .
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_:b0x7f7763cc9d50 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#defaultForNew> <https://presbrey.xvm.mit.edu/.> .
23:03:10 [presbrey]
_:b0x7f7763cc9d50 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#agentClass> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Agent> .
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}
23:03:34 [ericP]
cool
23:03:40 [presbrey]
I'll want to use a Turtle serializer on the db back to that filename on disk after insert/delete
23:04:01 [presbrey]
or whatever serializer based on content type of the original file
23:04:14 [ericP]
yeah, TurtleSerializer can overload SPARQLSerializer and just eliminate the {}s
23:04:55 [ericP]
of course, something that canonicalizes and strips out prefixes would be prettier
23:05:08 [presbrey]
whats with _:b0x7f7763cd9550? shouldn't that be the base_uri + node id?
23:05:29 [ericP]
were there bnodes in the input?
23:06:04 [presbrey]
yes 2, OK, thats it
23:07:18 [jambo]
presbrey, i just committed my changes to authz
23:07:26 [presbrey]
OK I've committed the changes to get that working
23:08:10 [presbrey]
thanks jambo
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I'll be back later, going to have some dinner
23:09:06 [jambo]
ok ! later
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