IRC log of dig on 2009-06-22
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- 01:38:47 [oshani]
- hello kennyluck
- 01:39:01 [kennyluck]
- just woke up...
- 01:39:02 [oshani]
- do you want to commit your changes?
- 01:39:06 [oshani]
- please do so
- 01:39:11 [kennyluck]
- Yes
- 01:39:12 [oshani]
- then we can go through it
- 01:39:21 [kennyluck]
- Is that OK?
- 01:39:35 [kennyluck]
- not going to cause conflict with the scenario part?
- 01:39:37 [oshani]
- well, I've committed all my changes
- 01:39:50 [oshani]
- so, the conflict would be on your side :)
- 01:39:58 [kennyluck]
- Oh OK, so let me do a svn up first
- 01:40:07 [oshani]
- back up your version first
- 01:40:16 [kennyluck]
- By the way, do you have omni graffle?
- 01:40:21 [oshani]
- nope
- 01:40:41 [kennyluck]
- I produced a diagram with omni graffle but when I try to export into JPG it crashes.
- 01:40:46 [kennyluck]
- sadly
- 01:40:50 [oshani]
- oh no
- 01:41:22 [oshani]
- well, did you try any other format? png?
- 01:42:06 [kennyluck]
- They all crash, so I all take a screen shot.
- 01:42:20 [oshani]
- okay
- 01:42:29 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...actually pdf works...
- 01:42:37 [kennyluck]
- Is pdf picture OK, I wonder
- 01:42:50 [kennyluck]
- sounds weird
- 01:42:58 [oshani]
- can you commit the pdf.. I'll see whether I can embed it
- 01:43:06 [kennyluck]
- Sure
- 01:43:06 [oshani]
- I know that eps format for images work
- 01:43:21 [kennyluck]
- I can do this right now, before resolving the conflicts
- 01:43:35 [oshani]
- BTW, I still think we ought to have a diagram for the proof ontology -- even if it's likely to change in the future
- 01:44:06 [kennyluck]
- That's see whether we can make it
- 01:44:36 [kennyluck]
- just tms:justification tms:And-justification etc, are just separate terms
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- 01:45:02 [kennyluck]
- They don't have ontology structure so I can't really imagine how the diagram looks like
- 01:45:43 [oshani]
- also, I believe some of the things you've written needs to be phrased in a bit more scholarly manner --- re "as pointed out by an attendant at the Cambridge Semantic Web Gathering \ref{slides" :)
- 01:46:09 [kennyluck]
- Yes
- 01:47:03 [oshani]
- kennyluck, ping me when you commit the pdf
- 01:48:58 [kennyluck]
- committed images/Linked_Data_GC.pdf, oshani
- 01:54:54 [oshani]
- kennyluck, the labels for the nodes seem to be overlapping
- 01:55:02 [oshani]
- is that how you wanted it to be?
- 01:55:22 [kennyluck]
- you when overlapping the circles?
- 01:55:36 [oshani]
- yep
- 01:55:51 [kennyluck]
- guess, It's a bit confusing, I can fix it
- 01:55:58 [oshani]
- great
- 01:57:52 [oshani]
- kennyluck, I can embed pdf -- so no worries there
- 01:57:55 [oshani]
- :)
- 01:58:07 [kennyluck]
- OK nice
- 01:58:45 [oshani]
- so ping me back when you've commited the changes to the paper -- in the mean time, I am going to proof read
- 01:58:57 [kennyluck]
- OK
- 02:11:34 [kennyluck]
- I finally know how to run the latex commands on login.csail.mit.edu
- 02:11:54 [kennyluck]
- So let me produce a pdf version...oshani
- 02:16:32 [oshani]
- done?
- 02:16:35 [oshani]
- kennyluck:
- 02:16:40 [kennyluck]
- Hmm... some multiply defined lables, etc.
- 02:16:42 [kennyluck]
- I can fix it
- 02:20:15 [kennyluck]
- by the way, if you have any idea about how to draw the tms vocabulary diagram, go ahead.
- 02:20:18 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 02:23:25 [oshani]
- oh okay
- 02:25:43 [oshani]
- well, kennyluck, we already have 18 pages! adding a new diagram will not help -- so, I don't think we should do it
- 02:25:55 [oshani]
- so, is it okay if I start editing now?
- 02:26:20 [oshani]
- I'll commit the pdf if you wanna see
- 02:26:24 [kennyluck]
- What a sec, what's your adding?
- 02:26:51 [oshani]
- just making edits - grammar style spelling etc
- 02:26:59 [oshani]
- needs lot of work on that I think
- 02:27:09 [kennyluck]
- OK, I am done now, finally resolve all the label warnings
- 02:29:48 [oshani]
- so, what are you gonna do now?
- 02:30:08 [oshani]
- do you also want to read from the top and note the mistakes?
- 02:33:53 [kennyluck]
- Hmm, I want to rewrite the Conclusion part.
- 02:34:05 [oshani]
- kennyluck, that sounds good
- 02:34:09 [oshani]
- so, go ahead
- 02:34:10 [kennyluck]
- There's also a @@refine symbol here.
- 02:34:15 [oshani]
- yep..
- 02:34:28 [kennyluck]
- Then I guess we can disscuss the overall structure later one
- 02:34:33 [kennyluck]
- s/one/on/
- 02:34:49 [oshani]
- good good
- 02:35:01 [oshani]
- I'll be making changes from the top
- 02:35:15 [kennyluck]
- OK
- 02:35:41 [kennyluck]
- By the way, could you read the Garbage Collection parts part to see whether it makes sense
- 02:35:49 [oshani]
- will do
- 02:35:56 [kennyluck]
- in the future work section
- 02:37:43 [oshani]
- I am gonna remove one of the proof images
- 02:37:50 [oshani]
- to save space
- 02:38:30 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...which one?
- 02:39:06 [kennyluck]
- I would want to preserve all the pictures though.
- 02:39:09 [oshani]
- fig 4:
- 02:39:40 [kennyluck]
- I think the introduction is a bit long, I removed the first paragraph, which I wrote, FYI
- 02:40:15 [oshani]
- oh okay
- 02:40:24 [oshani]
- committed in?
- 02:40:36 [kennyluck]
- No no, I have removed it
- 02:40:43 [kennyluck]
- or commented out
- 02:41:00 [kennyluck]
- Semantic Web is a Web of machine...
- 02:41:13 [oshani]
- yep.. I see it
- 02:41:18 [kennyluck]
- guess it's cliche for semantic web researchers :)
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- 03:11:03 [kennyluck]
- oshani, I finished the conclusion. guess it's a bit vague
- 03:11:23 [oshani]
- committed?
- 03:11:58 [kennyluck]
- Not yet, I can do it now
- 03:14:35 [kennyluck]
- oh you committed
- 03:15:52 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 03:16:04 [oshani]
- okay.. thanks
- 03:18:34 [kennyluck]
- I am going to split out the rule in the chained-proof section into 3 rules. Just a listing
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- 03:38:25 [kennyluck]
- I modified a bit in the chained proofs section, what do I do?
- 03:38:26 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 03:38:40 [oshani]
- commit it
- 03:38:53 [oshani]
- I am still working on the Motivation
- 03:39:07 [kennyluck]
- sorry about my poor English
- 03:39:29 [oshani]
- well, my English isn't any better :)
- 03:39:43 [kennyluck]
- It's obvious, anyway.
- 03:39:49 [kennyluck]
- I mean,
- 03:39:59 [kennyluck]
- My english is obviously worse.
- 03:44:48 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 03:45:03 [oshani]
- okay
- 03:46:21 [kennyluck]
- I'll read this from start
- 03:47:32 [kennyluck]
- oshani, did you overwrite my change on the desired features section?
- 03:48:00 [oshani]
- kennyluck, no I merged it with the motivation
- 03:48:21 [oshani]
- check 2.3
- 03:48:49 [kennyluck]
- I mean I changed the subsection such as the never ending crawler
- 03:49:15 [kennyluck]
- don't know I don't see this any more, maybe I overwritten it myself. Let me check
- 03:49:26 [oshani]
- well, I see it in my version -- section 2.3
- 03:49:54 [kennyluck]
- Can you copy that here?
- 03:50:12 [oshani]
- \subsection{Desired Features}\label{features}
- 03:50:13 [oshani]
- We introduce the idea of formally describing a `Computing Service' or an `Agent' using rules grounded in Semantic Web technologies. This `Agent' has the following features:
- 03:50:13 [oshani]
-
- 03:50:13 [oshani]
- \subsubsection{Never Ending Crawler}
- 03:50:13 [oshani]
- There is no limit to the Linked Open Data cloud. Therefore, the required data pertaining to a given query could be somewhere out there. Therefore we have designed our crawler to look for the required data progressively. In other words, it would not stop when a particular data item has been found.
- 03:50:27 [kennyluck]
- Yep, that's a different one
- 03:50:30 [kennyluck]
- sigh...
- 03:50:35 [kennyluck]
- I changed it
- 03:50:42 [oshani]
- oh no..
- 03:50:50 [oshani]
- when?
- 03:51:05 [kennyluck]
- Let me figure out what happened. Don't worry.
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- 04:06:10 [kennyluck]
- hmm...very old, I made weird mistakes it seems, I will commit again
- 04:06:14 [kennyluck]
- odd
- 04:07:19 [kennyluck]
- at least I have what I wrote in the terminal...
- 04:10:35 [kennyluck]
- I see what's going on now, It seems there are two copy of the desired feature section...
- 04:11:08 [kennyluck]
- did you notice that, oshani?
- 04:12:07 [oshani]
- oh yeah
- 04:12:30 [kennyluck]
- let me remove it
- 04:12:40 [oshani]
- wait
- 04:12:49 [oshani]
- shall I commit my changes first?
- 04:13:07 [kennyluck]
- Sure
- 04:13:39 [oshani]
- done .. go ahead
- 04:13:46 [kennyluck]
- After that could you wait until I resolve this
- 04:13:53 [oshani]
- okay
- 04:13:59 [oshani]
- I will look at the conclusion
- 04:14:04 [oshani]
- in the mean time
- 04:14:17 [kennyluck]
- okay, thanks
- 04:24:02 [kennyluck]
- oshani, I am very confused about this
- 04:24:10 [oshani]
- kennyluck, you've got a reference to this "The third author imagined the Web to be an immortal brain where the machines work as if they are neurons"?
- 04:24:13 [oshani]
- about what?
- 04:24:23 [kennyluck]
- where should this "Desired Feature" go?
- 04:24:33 [oshani]
- it should go under "Motivations"
- 04:24:36 [kennyluck]
- oshani, you are the reference!
- 04:24:42 [kennyluck]
- Oh, ok.
- 04:25:15 [oshani]
- not sure if timbl would like the idea of referring to himself in the paper
- 04:25:31 [oshani]
- timbl, any comments if you are listening?
- 04:25:48 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...
- 04:26:25 [oshani]
- instead we could say something like... "The vision of the Web.."
- 04:26:30 [oshani]
- how's that sound?
- 04:27:26 [oshani]
- kennyluck, and I am going to add a citation from the Scientific American article for that
- 04:27:39 [kennyluck]
- But I am not the person to talk about the vision of the Web!
- 04:28:01 [kennyluck]
- Is that where this vision is from?
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- 04:30:10 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...I am about to commit the change
- 04:38:05 [kennyluck]
- Ah, I like your change in the first Part of 2.1, oshani
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- 04:47:48 [kennyluck]
- we have 4 hours more or so, seems to be enough
- 04:47:56 [oshani]
- :)
- 04:48:00 [oshani]
- check conclusion
- 04:48:05 [oshani]
- just committed it
- 04:48:44 [kennyluck]
- Hmm, what do we do now?
- 04:48:47 [kennyluck]
- oshani
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- 04:49:11 [oshani]
- I am going through the rest of the motivation and cleaning it up
- 04:49:20 [oshani]
- you pick something to do -- I dunno
- 04:49:28 [kennyluck]
- Hah..
- 05:07:54 [oshani]
- kennyluck, I am gonna remove the smart ppl example -- don't feel good abt it
- 05:08:07 [kennyluck]
- why not?
- 05:08:36 [kennyluck]
- the attendants of the meetup like this example, though.
- 05:09:14 [kennyluck]
- Just want to describe the issues around grading and stuff.
- 05:09:40 [kennyluck]
- So we consider a customizable grading user interface to be important
- 05:10:59 [kennyluck]
- And it is just described with words...
- 05:11:34 [oshani]
- oh okay -- so I'll leave it there, since you are so persistent :)
- 05:12:01 [kennyluck]
- Just want to describe what does it mean to be "valuing information"
- 05:12:09 [kennyluck]
- value itself is contravertial
- 05:13:19 [kennyluck]
- FYI, I believe if this is all open, we can tag the employer who selects only "smart people" as bad person.
- 05:13:37 [kennyluck]
- I personally think so.
- 05:13:56 [kennyluck]
- I hate companies, in fact.
- 05:14:30 [oshani]
- :)
- 05:14:51 [oshani]
- kenny the socialist :P
- 05:14:58 [kennyluck]
- Yes,
- 05:15:15 [kennyluck]
- I believe school ranking, grade, all this stuff to be stupid
- 05:15:25 [kennyluck]
- So I made this example.
- 05:19:47 [oshani]
- hey kennyluck, if you are idling now -- can you make a list of things "source code and demos" to submit as additional stuff?
- 05:19:58 [oshani]
- for example link to the passive agent?
- 05:20:10 [oshani]
- commit it as a text file please
- 05:20:29 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...I am actually looking at the feaures part now
- 05:20:36 [kennyluck]
- conflict again, it seesm
- 05:20:54 [oshani]
- uh-oh
- 05:22:51 [kennyluck]
- oh, good news oshani, the source has nothing wrong
- 05:22:59 [kennyluck]
- It seems that the pdf is outdated though
- 05:23:12 [oshani]
- okay
- 05:29:15 [kennyluck]
- No...I don't understand what's going on now
- 05:29:53 [oshani]
- if you haven't made any changes, I suggest you delete and get an svn up
- 05:32:00 [kennyluck]
- I am very confused about the feature part now..
- 05:32:11 [kennyluck]
- Do you have two feature part in your version?
- 05:32:24 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 05:32:42 [oshani]
- nope -- just one
- 05:32:46 [oshani]
- under motivation
- 05:33:04 [kennyluck]
- hmm...let me check again
- 05:36:01 [kennyluck]
- You moved so much part
- 05:36:22 [oshani]
- ??
- 05:37:12 [kennyluck]
- for example you move motivation to 4.5 and so on...
- 05:37:24 [oshani]
- ah yes, the rule...
- 05:37:42 [oshani]
- I thought it would be nice to have it referred from one place
- 05:37:49 [oshani]
- instead of several places
- 05:38:02 [kennyluck]
- Hmm...ok
- 05:38:21 [kennyluck]
- Other big changes you did?
- 05:38:22 [oshani]
- and that makes the motivation section a bit more consistent as well
- 05:38:36 [oshani]
- since we don't write rules for the others
- 05:38:54 [oshani]
- well, I am making some changes to the features -- mostly language and style
- 05:39:49 [kennyluck]
- Why did you remove this line "The other use case would occur when there are contradictory information. For example, if a person is both a good person and a bad person. The user can naively compare the proof counts."?
- 05:40:09 [kennyluck]
- Sorry I guess I should do a update now, maybe the reason is written in the source
- 05:41:49 [oshani]
- kennyluck, I wanted to move away from labelling people as good and bad
- 05:41:58 [oshani]
- does not seem that ethical
- 05:42:17 [oshani]
- perhaps we can take something like a "Youtube" video rating?
- 05:42:30 [oshani]
- some ppl will say it's good and some would say it's bad
- 05:42:37 [oshani]
- and the relative count will hold
- 05:42:42 [oshani]
- sounds good?
- 05:43:03 [kennyluck]
- Sure, any thing that can be described both as good or bad
- 05:48:31 [kennyluck]
- How does will it take for finalization grammar and style issues, oshani? There are two other issues I want to discuss with you.
- 05:49:06 [oshani]
- go ahead.. I'm listening
- 05:50:15 [kennyluck]
- First of all, I feel like we should move the User Interface forward of give pointers at the end of the introduction to the user interface part.
- 05:50:42 [kennyluck]
- This paper contains too many bullshits (I know, most of them are produced by me)
- 05:51:23 [kennyluck]
- Since you don't like "The paper is lenghy"... what for about "For the impatient readers..."
- 05:53:54 [kennyluck]
- and gives a pointer to the user interface section and the slides
- 05:54:07 [kennyluck]
- or we just move the user interface part forward?
- 06:13:35 [oshani]
- kennyluck, I think we can give the slides as additional information
- 06:13:47 [oshani]
- -1 for moving the UI forward
- 06:13:57 [kennyluck]
- I am creating the txt file
- 06:14:14 [kennyluck]
- Or is it possible to submit URIs?
- 06:14:23 [oshani]
- yes we can
- 06:14:27 [oshani]
- I think
- 06:15:45 [kennyluck]
- I am thinking about something like "The impatient reader is encouraged to glance over the slides [18] or to take a look at the User Interface section 4.5"
- 06:16:30 [kennyluck]
- By the way, I am making a zip release of the code
- 06:24:11 [oshani]
- Okay, that's good
- 06:24:29 [oshani]
- well, I'll include that as a foot note.. sounds good?
- 06:24:52 [oshani]
- kennyluck:
- 06:25:18 [kennyluck]
- Hmm.. I would prefer inline text though
- 06:25:32 [kennyluck]
- Really thinks the motivation is kind of boring
- 06:25:51 [oshani]
- well, that's how scholarly works are :)
- 06:26:13 [oshani]
- you have to go thru the boring stuff to get to the fun bits
- 06:26:16 [kennyluck]
- I think "For impatient reader" is humble enough
- 06:26:33 [kennyluck]
- hmm... I don't know.
- 06:26:47 [oshani]
- I don't like the idea of putting that inline, because it looks as if it's a GOTO
- 06:26:51 [kennyluck]
- If I am the reader I would like be that patient to read all these stuff
- 06:26:57 [oshani]
- IMHO, the text should logically follow
- 06:27:11 [kennyluck]
- hmm, alright
- 06:27:27 [oshani]
- aha.. note that our readers will be very different from us -- the boring academic types ;)
- 06:28:41 [kennyluck]
- not david hyuhn, I believe
- 06:29:03 [kennyluck]
- All the Semantic Web people are young
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- 06:35:40 [oshani]
- kennyluck, there are some spelling mistakes in the slides, you might wanna correct them?
- 06:35:48 [oshani]
- run a spell-checker?
- 06:36:02 [kennyluck]
- Hmm.. after I've done this extra.txt
- 06:36:21 [kennyluck]
- Also the paper is also in a urgent status. I think
- 06:36:26 [kennyluck]
- How's it going, oshani?
- 06:36:50 [oshani]
- now in the design and impl
- 07:04:46 [kennyluck]
- oshani...
- 07:04:47 [kennyluck]
- 7 Conclusion
- 07:04:47 [kennyluck]
- This includes the protocols and several workarounds to circumvent some tech-
- 07:04:48 [kennyluck]
- nical difficulties. All these decisions are far from being standardized. Therefore,
- 07:04:48 [kennyluck]
- they are sub ject to change, but we expect later versions of the current imple-
- 07:04:48 [kennyluck]
- mentation to be backwards compatible.
- 07:04:53 [kennyluck]
- What is this?
- 07:05:37 [oshani]
- Ah, well, I moved that from the Design to the Conclusion -- because we should caution the readers in the conclusion
- 07:06:07 [oshani]
- will fix it with a good flow
- 07:06:10 [oshani]
- gimme a min
- 07:10:15 [kennyluck]
- Ah, good writing on the valuing information part
- 07:35:50 [kennyluck]
- oshani, I noticed that you have finished Sec 4, what are you doing now?
- 07:36:09 [oshani]
- just finished sec 6
- 07:41:20 [kennyluck]
- Some bugs I found
- 07:42:21 [kennyluck]
- 1. in 4.2 the latter SPARQL Update lacks braces for the INSERT clause
- 07:45:09 [kennyluck]
- 2. the sentence "A client can create a
- 07:45:09 [kennyluck]
- new document by posting an INSERT to a server which implements this update
- 07:45:10 [kennyluck]
- protocol." in 4.2 is kind of confusing
- 07:48:47 [kennyluck]
- 3. "This chain of deduction is implemented with the following simplified N3 rule:" in the section "Chained Proof"
- 07:49:14 [kennyluck]
- should be "The last rule of this chain is implemented..."
- 07:52:20 [kennyluck]
- are you OK, oshani?
- 07:54:14 [oshani]
- yeah yeah.. gimme a sec
- 07:54:49 [oshani]
- why is that sentence confusing?
- 07:56:32 [kennyluck]
- because in the following example, no new document is created.
- 07:56:50 [kennyluck]
- So the "For example" there looks strange..
- 07:57:08 [oshani]
- ah okay
- 07:57:10 [kennyluck]
- I would prefer to delete the sentence
- 07:58:01 [kennyluck]
- You must be very tired... 4 am
- 08:00:16 [kennyluck]
- 4 (Sec 2.3 - Support Generalized Rules) should it be "can be used to give" not "can be used give"?
- 08:05:10 [oshani]
- kennyluck, I think I am done -- included your changes 1-4
- 08:05:34 [oshani]
- now printing off to read...
- 08:05:42 [kennyluck]
- hold on
- 08:05:49 [oshani]
- okay
- 08:05:58 [kennyluck]
- how about the footnode linking to the user interface section?
- 08:06:19 [oshani]
- but wouldn't that be too late?
- 08:06:45 [oshani]
- kennyluck:
- 08:06:55 [kennyluck]
- too late?
- 08:07:10 [oshani]
- I thought you wanted the reader to look at the slides before reading the rest of the paper
- 08:07:46 [kennyluck]
- e a look at the User Interface section 4.5"
- 08:07:46 [kennyluck]
- [15:16] kennyluck: By the way, I am making a zip release of the code
- 08:07:47 [kennyluck]
- [15:24] oshani: Okay, that's good
- 08:07:47 [kennyluck]
- [15:24] oshani: well, I'll include that as a foot note.. sounds good?
- 08:07:54 [kennyluck]
- Yep, so why would be too late?
- 08:08:00 [kennyluck]
- s/why/what
- 08:08:33 [kennyluck]
- oshani,
- 08:08:36 [oshani]
- are you checking the latest version?
- 08:08:49 [oshani]
- because I included the footnote in the intro
- 08:09:00 [oshani]
- and linked to the slides and the UI section
- 08:09:04 [kennyluck]
- ohh, maybe I didn't notice that
- 08:09:37 [kennyluck]
- is that on p3, oshani
- 08:09:39 [kennyluck]
- page 3
- 08:10:12 [oshani]
- no page 2
- 08:11:01 [kennyluck]
- weird, I see nothing in the pdf
- 08:11:06 [christel]
- [Global Notice] Hi all, I'm going to restart services -- you'll be without NickServ, ChanServ, MemoServ etc for a few moments! Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for using freenode.
- 08:11:09 [kennyluck]
- I guess I should create a new pdf
- 08:11:26 [oshani]
- no, it's in the pdf
- 08:12:23 [kennyluck]
- now I see it, maybe cached.
- 08:12:29 [kennyluck]
- hmm other minor bugs
- 08:12:50 [kennyluck]
- <N3
- 08:12:51 [kennyluck]
- URI> format:content-type “text/n3’,
- 08:12:55 [kennyluck]
- Section 3.1
- 08:13:06 [kennyluck]
- the last should be a double quote.
- 08:13:19 [kennyluck]
- If you don't care. Then that's fine
- 08:13:20 [oshani]
- ah.. okat
- 08:13:34 [oshani]
- no, please do report errors like that
- 08:14:09 [oshani]
- "Communication via SPARQL Update to my URI is welcome and recommended." :D
- 08:14:16 [kennyluck]
- two other issues
- 08:14:21 [kennyluck]
- yep,
- 08:14:31 [kennyluck]
- 1. should we give a pointer to this text file?
- 08:15:09 [oshani]
- Don't think it's required, because I'll submit it as an additional file
- 08:15:25 [kennyluck]
- Hmm, for normal reader, not the reviewer..
- 08:15:41 [kennyluck]
- don't know, the URI for it is http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/lod-computations/README
- 08:15:52 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 08:15:56 [oshani]
- oky
- 08:17:55 [kennyluck]
- So the really last big thing
- 08:18:37 [oshani]
- what?
- 08:18:51 [kennyluck]
- As this is my first paper and maybe it's even the last one. I would really want to put the Acknowledgements in.
- 08:18:59 [kennyluck]
- What do you think? Any workaround?
- 08:19:19 [oshani]
- :) -- yeah but you cannot ack timbl as he's one of the authors
- 08:19:36 [oshani]
- how come this is your first paper??
- 08:20:01 [kennyluck]
- Hmm... at least I pay a lot of attention to it
- 08:20:17 [kennyluck]
- The one I work with shou, I didn't even read the paper.
- 08:20:39 [kennyluck]
- For the tabulator paper, I was noticed that a paper was produced after it is in some archive
- 08:21:11 [oshani]
- :)
- 08:21:16 [kennyluck]
- I don't know. Just think I should do this at least once.
- 08:27:12 [kennyluck]
- oshani, where did you put the README?
- 08:27:20 [kennyluck]
- Or you decide not to do so?
- 08:27:29 [oshani]
- just before the Related Work
- 08:27:41 [oshani]
- looking for the right words to describe it
- 08:29:48 [oshani]
- kennyluck, okay committed check again
- 08:29:49 [kennyluck]
- Sorry, one more small thing, can you somehow write a footnote in the firstpage saying "The paper is given the URI http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/lod-computations/paper . We might produce an HTML version of this paper in near future. "
- 08:30:20 [oshani]
- um, that's not related kennyluck
- 08:30:29 [kennyluck]
- related?
- 08:30:34 [oshani]
- why would someone reading the paper wanna know that?
- 08:30:57 [kennyluck]
- because the HTML version might contain more information
- 08:31:19 [kennyluck]
- Anyway, I document with a URI is updatable.
- 08:31:39 [kennyluck]
- That is, we can keep editing it.
- 08:31:42 [kennyluck]
- s/I/a/
- 08:31:59 [oshani]
- you are impossible :P
- 08:32:09 [oshani]
- okay.. gonna make this change
- 08:32:20 [kennyluck]
- meaning?
- 08:32:21 [oshani]
- but this is the last one of the kind okay? :)
- 08:32:29 [kennyluck]
- Am I asking too much?
- 08:32:32 [oshani]
- I really want to submit this and go home
- 08:32:40 [kennyluck]
- Oh, sorry.
- 08:32:46 [kennyluck]
- Yes, should be the last one.
- 08:35:17 [oshani]
- it seems that I cannot put URIs to the title
- 08:35:27 [oshani]
- got any suggestions?
- 08:35:42 [oshani]
- I can link it from the README thing
- 08:35:57 [kennyluck]
- footnote?
- 08:36:05 [oshani]
- yeah
- 08:36:20 [oshani]
- s/URI/footnote above
- 08:36:38 [kennyluck]
- What about a random place in the first page
- 08:36:44 [kennyluck]
- such as Section 1
- 08:36:56 [oshani]
- nope titles won't work
- 08:36:59 [oshani]
- already tried
- 08:37:10 [kennyluck]
- Oh, then never mind
- 08:37:17 [kennyluck]
- nono...
- 08:37:27 [kennyluck]
- I mean please link it from the README
- 08:37:33 [kennyluck]
- oshani
- 08:37:36 [oshani]
- okay
- 08:37:44 [kennyluck]
- Thanks!
- 08:37:52 [oshani]
- \footnote{The URI of this paper is \url{http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/lod-computations/paper}. Feel free to link to this in the LOD!}
- 08:38:15 [kennyluck]
- yay
- 08:38:17 [oshani]
- didn't mention that we don't have a =n HTML version yet
- 08:38:26 [oshani]
- since you are gonna do it soon ;)
- 08:38:31 [kennyluck]
- no problem, I think
- 08:38:45 [kennyluck]
- Yep, hopefully. Got a presentation tomorrow
- 08:39:08 [kennyluck]
- I think we can submit the paper,
- 08:39:18 [kennyluck]
- Let's forget about reviewing it
- 08:39:24 [kennyluck]
- I guess It's good enough
- 08:51:17 [kennyluck]
- oshani, are you there?
- 08:51:37 [oshani]
- yep.. just submitted, but looking through it once again
- 08:51:48 [kennyluck]
- cool, oshani.
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- 09:16:39 [kennyluck]
- tell me when you are all done, oshani.
- 09:32:15 [kennyluck]
- Anyway, I have to thank you very much, oshani.
- 09:32:44 [kennyluck]
- byebye
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