IRC log of dig on 2009-08-11

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12:50:37 [SimpsonTP]
hi all
12:51:01 [SimpsonTP]
is this the right place to post questions on tabulator ?
13:02:39 [RalphS]
it could be, when the students are around (they're not currently). tabulator@csail.mit.edu would be a somewhat better place as it doesn't depend on same time presence
13:02:53 [RalphS]
that is, mailto:tabulator@csail.mit.edu
13:09:21 [SimpsonTP]
thats the mailing list right ?
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13:43:46 [oshani]
lkagal, is it an absolute requirement to have the camera-ready within the page limit?
13:43:55 [oshani]
I have half a page extra which I am struggling to cut down...
13:44:39 [lkagal]
For the ISWC paper ? Absolutely.
13:44:59 [oshani]
okay
13:45:00 [lkagal]
I believe we can buy an additional page if required.
13:46:21 [lkagal]
Could you email the conf/proceedings chairs and ask them whether we could get an additional page.
13:47:40 [lkagal]
Proceedings Chair: Krishnaprasad Thirunarayan http://www.cs.wright.edu/~tkprasad
13:48:22 [oshani]
thanks Lalana
13:48:50 [oshani]
okay, I am re-reading and removing not so important references to cut down some space (perhaps some of the footnotes). let's see if that works first.
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14:54:10 [SimpsonTP]
did anyone ever try to run tabulator in a XULRunner application ??
14:56:27 [oshani]
SimpsonTP, is Extension Developer's Extension a XULRunner app?
14:56:49 [SimpsonTP]
I'm not really sure to be honest
14:57:10 [SimpsonTP]
but since its named extension....
14:57:15 [oshani]
I have run (or rather used Tabulator's internal variables) in Extension Developer's Ext
14:59:19 [SimpsonTP]
but you installed that from within firefox then ?
14:59:20 [oshani]
SimpsonTP, why do you want to run Tabulator in a XULRunner app?
14:59:54 [oshani]
what does "that" refer to? Extension Developer's extension or Tabulator?
15:02:18 [SimpsonTP]
that refers to the extension developer extension
15:02:40 [SimpsonTP]
I would like to modify/view rdf data from a xul application
15:03:03 [SimpsonTP]
and since reinventing the wheel is something i hate I thought tabulator would be a good start
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15:03:54 [SimpsonTP]
so I created a <browser> element on my <window> set the appropriate ID's and window types, and load the RDF in the browser, but so far it doesn't work :/
15:04:07 [oshani]
SimpsonTP, yes you can view and modify rdf data browsed from Tabulator using Extension Developer's ext
15:04:53 [SimpsonTP]
but you stil run the EDE from within firefox then ?
15:05:37 [oshani]
yes, it's more of a debugging environment :)
15:12:24 [SimpsonTP]
so that doesn't really help me so far :)
15:12:49 [SimpsonTP]
now I just been going through the source code to see if that gives me any hints
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16:49:00 [oshani]
Hey Pipian_ , here's the camera-ready paper: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/Papers/ISWC/policy-aware-reuse/camera_ready.pdf I'd really appreciate if you can proof-read it!
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17:08:38 [mhausenblas]
great work, oshani - and congrats ;)
17:08:52 [oshani]
thanks mhausenblas
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18:01:58 [SimpsonTP]
is there anyone around who can explain me the inner workings of the tabulator extension? like what is its structure etc
18:04:49 [oshani]
SimpsonTP, what do you want to know? I suggest you first take a look at chrome/content/test.js
18:05:33 [SimpsonTP]
I'm trying to find out why it does not work in a xulrunner <browser> element
18:05:50 [oshani]
the test.js contains the code which acts as the entry point, but the Tabulator code in general is pretty complex in structure
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18:06:09 [SimpsonTP]
I enabled loggin to the console again from log-ext.js
18:06:28 [SimpsonTP]
unfortunatly, that doesn't give me any new information
18:06:29 [oshani]
I haven't worked on a XUL runner app, so I am not sure how it'll work
18:06:48 [SimpsonTP]
it doesn't work, but doesn't shout out errors either :)
18:07:03 [SimpsonTP]
I already looked at the test.js
18:07:51 [SimpsonTP]
my first attempt was to figure out if it is called at all, like if the tabulator is started at all, so any hints in which function if called when it starts processing would be greatly appreciated
18:12:17 [oshani]
SimpsonTP, not really sure what you mean by "Tabulator is started at all"... but, if Tab is installed, on every page load the 'tabulator_init' function is called
18:13:19 [SimpsonTP]
you mean the tabulator.init defined in test.js ?
18:13:39 [oshani]
um, nope... that would be actually in the tabulator.xul
18:15:24 [SimpsonTP]
okay, so if that is not called, then tabulator is not 'started'
18:17:10 [oshani]
Well, yes, that is one way of putting it. BTW, tabulator_init not the only function that's called on page load - there are some xpcom components in the component that works om source fetching, etc
18:17:58 [SimpsonTP]
yeah I've noticed
18:21:15 [SimpsonTP]
so it seems that tabulator.xul is not loaded
18:39:38 [SimpsonTP]
ah overlay issue it seems
18:47:02 [SimpsonTP]
it gets further now...
18:47:41 [SimpsonTP]
but stil doesn't output anything :)
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20:07:14 [SimpsonTP]
okay, will never work in xulrunner, its to firefox dependent
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