00:09:01 jambo has quit ("Leaving.") 00:09:16 oshani (n=oshani@31-33-170.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig 00:14:57 oshani has quit (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00:18:06 [Global Notice] Hi all, as you may be aware one of the reasons we're changing ircds is because hyperion attracts bugs like nectar does bees -- the recent splits were caused by software issues which I believe we have ironed out, and hyperion should just about manage to last us these last two weeks. Apologies for the inconvenience and good night! 00:19:05 oshani (n=oshani@31-33-170.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig 00:25:12 mcherian (n=mcherian@c-24-61-8-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig 00:39:11 marisol (n=marisol@pool-68-160-138-169.bos.east.verizon.net) has joined #dig 00:39:29 marisol has quit (Client Quit) 00:43:55 mcherian has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:22:08 akm22562 (n=akm22562@adsl-241-40-147.sdf.bellsouth.net) has joined #dig 01:24:43 Hey guys! I need to retire a nameserver I did not build. Can you dig a full zone to identify all domains in that zone using a specific nameserver? 01:31:44 akm22562 has left #dig 01:50:22 lkagal has quit () 02:58:52 oshani has quit () 03:07:29 oshani (n=oshani@31-33-170.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig 03:26:44 mcherian (n=mcherian@c-65-96-160-20.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig 03:51:26 timbl (n=timbl@pool-96-237-236-72.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 04:11:48 [Global Notice] Alright, I'm sure you've all seen the drones bringing the noise. If you all will take the time to +R your channels, they'll have a much harder time of it. 05:18:32 oshani has quit () 06:24:41 mcherian has quit () 10:15:00 mhausenblas (i=4f618e66@gateway/web/freenode/x-nhfifybvlpgfhzpk) has joined #dig 10:17:29 timbl, would be great to hear what you think re http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/LinkedDataAspects 11:42:18 mhausenblas, re generating IDs for people entries ... please take care to treat them specially 11:42:35 you might want a privacy considerations section of relevant specs 11:42:57 i know all sql data has privacy aspects, but assigning IDs to people can have particular consequences 12:34:41 mhausenblas has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 12:50:10 mhausenblas (i=4f618e66@gateway/web/freenode/x-rpkgfcdxtfxxoxyt) has joined #dig 12:50:46 good point! thanks a lot danbri 12:50:52 logger, pointer 12:51:07 DIGlogger, pointer? 12:51:07 See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-01-16#T12-51-07 12:59:19 Privacy cannot be dealt with simply .. a pointer to a place to iscuss issues. maybe 13:00:25 timbl, I agree we will not be able to deal with it completely in the RDB2RDF WG 13:01:08 though better write up some good practices than ignoring the topic at all. in this sense I'm happy with danbri's comment and thankful for it 13:01:18 Nowadays large companies don't need IDs to be able to correlate things about people -- to give the impression that deciding whethr to make t ID is a critical step would be misleading. It is wherth you publish the daya. 13:02:30 ok, point taken. will think about how to address the issue (in a non-normative doc, so not R2RML syntax) 13:02:46 how was the product dev lab, btw? hope all went fine? 13:04:28 the new voiD editor was unfortunately not yet ready for prime time - a preview is at http://ld2sd.deri.org/ve2/ 13:05:45 would have loved to be with you. but at least a colleague of mine, Andre, made it and I hope he showed Sigma ;) 14:48:39 mhausenblas has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 14:52:51 mhausenblas (i=4f618e66@gateway/web/freenode/x-czehbbohpoegurhs) has joined #dig 15:01:47 oshani (n=oshani@c-71-233-151-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig 15:16:06 lkagal (n=lkagal@pool-173-48-171-70.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 15:16:17 lkagal has quit (Client Quit) 15:40:23 oshani has quit () 15:54:42 timbl, absolutely fair point about other properties being able to identify also (see netflix hoopla, various stats about name/age/zip being 80% unique etc); the difference with URI in that sense is more of degree than kind. 15:55:22 however as soon as you take one of these bits of data and say it's not just a property of the person, but the ID that can be used to go to the Web and look up useful info on them, then you bring in additional concerns - 15:55:49 - like the security and integrity of the server hosting the data; and not just now but in a few years time... 15:57:16 if i convince the world that http://danbri.org/foaf.rdf#mhausenblas is a useful URI for michael, then 3 years later I neglect sysadmin duties and get hacked, there's a chance malicious info about him could be injected into my site 15:57:41 so there are responsibilities and risks that come when we freely mint and host URIs for others 16:07:33 yes, danbri! this is, I think, a very nice summary for an RDB2RDF Note ... will use it, if you allow :) 16:08:45 of course, if folks agree with it! 16:09:02 i won't join the group but am happy to read over any pre-drafts of things on this topic 16:09:14 very cool, thank danbri 16:09:59 re netflix see http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/netflix-privacy-lawsuit/ 16:10:35 also http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/socialnetworks-faq.html 16:10:42 thanks 17:10:08 drrho has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:13:39 oshani (n=oshani@c-71-233-151-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig 17:14:01 lkagal (n=lkagal@pool-173-48-171-70.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 17:49:13 mhausenblas has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 17:53:51 [Global Notice] Again, for those that haven't been around, don't click the links that are being spammed into channels. You will turn your browser into several IRC drones and subsequently get yourself banned from the network. ChanOps, I suggest making use of the +r or +R chanmodes ( http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml ). 18:13:54 lkagal_ (n=lkagal@pool-173-48-171-70.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 18:13:54 lkagal has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:43:52 oshani has quit () 19:55:46 lkagal_ has quit () 20:15:43 oshani (n=oshani@31-33-170.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig 21:08:35 lkagal (n=lkagal@pool-173-48-171-70.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 21:12:13 lkagal has quit (Client Quit) 22:53:05 [Global Notice] Hi all. As you may be aware we've been having a somewhat annoying problem with spam bots hassling channels and requesting people visit various URLs. Please do not visit these URLs as doing so will turn many javascript enabled browsers into spammers and may cause you to be automatically banned from the network. /mode +w for more information as it becomes available and as always drop by #freenode if you're require assistance. 23:10:39 lkagal (n=lkagal@pool-173-48-171-70.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 23:11:08 lkagal has quit (Client Quit) 23:18:58 hachiya (n=flash@mail.filmpr.com) has joined #dig 23:19:04 hachiya has left #dig 23:43:16 lkagal (n=lkagal@pool-173-48-171-70.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig 23:51:18 lkagal has quit ()