12:59:19 [timbl]Privacy cannot be dealt with simply .. a pointer to a place to iscuss issues. maybe
13:00:25 [mhausenblas]timbl, I agree we will not be able to deal with it completely in the RDB2RDF WG
13:01:08 [mhausenblas]though better write up some good practices than ignoring the topic at all. in this sense I'm happy with danbri's comment and thankful for it
13:01:18 [timbl]Nowadays large companies don't need IDs to be able to correlate things about people -- to give the impression that deciding whethr to make t ID is a critical step would be misleading. It is wherth you publish the daya.
13:02:30 [mhausenblas]ok, point taken. will think about how to address the issue (in a non-normative doc, so not R2RML syntax)
13:02:46 [mhausenblas]how was the product dev lab, btw? hope all went fine?
13:04:28 [mhausenblas]the new voiD editor was unfortunately not yet ready for prime time - a preview is at http://ld2sd.deri.org/ve2/
13:05:45 [mhausenblas]would have loved to be with you. but at least a colleague of mine, Andre, made it and I hope he showed Sigma ;)
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15:54:42 [danbri]timbl, absolutely fair point about other properties being able to identify also (see netflix hoopla, various stats about name/age/zip being 80% unique etc); the difference with URI in that sense is more of degree than kind.
15:55:22 [danbri]however as soon as you take one of these bits of data and say it's not just a property of the person, but the ID that can be used to go to the Web and look up useful info on them, then you bring in additional concerns -
15:55:49 [danbri]- like the security and integrity of the server hosting the data; and not just now but in a few years time...
15:57:16 [danbri]if i convince the world that http://danbri.org/foaf.rdf#mhausenblas is a useful URI for michael, then 3 years later I neglect sysadmin duties and get hacked, there's a chance malicious info about him could be injected into my site
15:57:41 [danbri]so there are responsibilities and risks that come when we freely mint and host URIs for others
16:07:33 [mhausenblas]yes, danbri! this is, I think, a very nice summary for an RDB2RDF Note ... will use it, if you allow :)
16:08:45 [danbri]of course, if folks agree with it!
16:09:02 [danbri]i won't join the group but am happy to read over any pre-drafts of things on this topic
16:09:14 [mhausenblas]very cool, thank danbri
16:09:59 [danbri]re netflix see http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/netflix-privacy-lawsuit/
16:10:35 [danbri]also http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/socialnetworks-faq.html
16:10:42 [mhausenblas]thanks
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