IRC log of dig on 2010-08-07

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00:05:59 [melvster]
yay! ... add triple is now working on the latest updated tabulator (refactor brancy) ... i believe it wasnt before
00:06:14 [melvster]
(add via the blue plus)
00:07:42 [timbl]
It should be getting better.
00:08:05 [timbl]
There is still a problem that the blue plus does not appear if there are no existing statements about an object.
00:09:40 [melvster]
oh right, i also noticed that the added triple isnt always reflected in the local cache, but appears in the server side after the sparul is sent ... great progress tho
00:10:10 [melvster]
hopefully ill be able to start patching some of these issues soon
00:11:03 [melvster]
... been sick lately, and still learning the paradigm ... but want to try and free up more and more time to help improve tabulator ... and also use it on a day to day basis (dogfooding)
00:11:49 [melvster]
will http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track#TabTracker be the tabulator RDF issue tracker?
00:12:03 [melvster]
(primary)
00:13:27 [melvster]
i got a 200 back trying to add an issue
00:13:30 [melvster]
INSERT { <http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#foobar">http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#foobar">http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#foobar> <http://www.w3.org/2005/01/wf/flow#tracker> <http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track#TabTracker> . <http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#foobar> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title> "Test Issue: added triple isnt always reflected in the local cache, but appears in the server side after the sparul is sent" . <http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/s
00:13:32 [melvster]
tate#foobar> <http://www.w3.org/2005/01/wf/flow#state> <http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track#New> . }
00:13:58 [melvster]
ah interesting
00:14:01 [timbl]
Ah. you discovered the issue pane
00:14:10 [melvster]
yes :)
00:14:21 [timbl]
It is under dev't.
00:14:32 [timbl]
currently it alway suses the same URI for teh new issue
00:14:44 [timbl]
fixing that now
00:14:50 [melvster]
one is dig.csail and the sparul sends to dig.xvm
00:15:22 [melvster]
oh dig.xvm is the subject
00:17:04 [timbl]
Yes, there is an experimental server
00:17:20 [melvster]
timbl: ive mailed charles2 about the social pane ... he brought me up to speed ... hopefully it's an area i can help him with
00:17:45 [timbl]
which is running a data wiki based on python instead of php and EricP's swobjects instead of his earlier perl Algae
00:18:20 [timbl]
Joe P and Eric P have ben working hard to get that up as tabr development rather depends on a good ruunning one
00:18:20 [melvster]
oh right, ill have a fully working php data wiki with sparul webdav and foaf+ssl ... so we should have more than one place to test
00:18:49 [melvster]
yes, i read the back message, fantastic work from joe (as usual)
00:19:02 [timbl]
Well, you could set yourself up a tracker, and poit it at your wiki for its store.
00:19:37 [melvster]
sure
00:19:55 [melvster]
will do
00:25:22 [timbl]
and see if you can add an issue. Mind you , the ane is in early stages
00:25:31 [timbl]
You can't edit issues
00:26:56 [melvster]
sure, it's a good template tho
00:28:33 [melvster]
hmm not sure how well i can handle n3 currently ... will look into it ...
00:29:19 [melvster]
ah there's an n3 to rdf/xml convertor
00:29:35 [timbl]
You can use RDF/XML or turtle in the store. The tabulator will write back the same format it read
00:31:54 [melvster]
hmm maybe an issue with the conversion http://foaf.me/track#TabTracker
00:32:18 [melvster]
ahh ... absolute paths
00:36:03 [timbl]
You need to change the state store to point to youtr own WIKI
00:36:44 [melvster]
ah ok, let me do that
00:37:10 [melvster]
let me try replacing http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track with ''
00:37:27 [melvster]
selectively maybe
00:38:29 [melvster]
ah ok <wf:stateStore r:resource="http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state"/>
00:38:39 [timbl]
fix that
00:38:49 [melvster]
ill use amaya
00:39:51 [melvster]
worked!
00:41:05 [timbl]
You now have your own issue tracker?
00:42:04 [melvster]
almost ... need to fix some other references for the add issue
00:42:32 [timbl]
you might have to clear ff's cache
00:42:37 [melvster]
it's sending still to dig.xvm.mit.edu
00:42:43 [melvster]
oh right ...
00:43:08 [timbl]
There i s only one pointer to that store, ffox has to get the new one if you change it
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00:47:57 [melvster]
well i did add an issue successfully! just to the wrong store :)
00:48:11 [melvster]
see http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state
00:48:22 [melvster]
that was using the issue pane
00:49:27 [timbl]
Do you not edit N3 normally?
00:49:55 [melvster]
not normally no
00:50:12 [melvster]
ive converted to rdf/xml and i can edit it with amaya using webdav
00:50:20 [timbl]
I kinda assume it is going to be easier for peopl
00:50:22 [melvster]
not sure how well n3 is supported by arc2
00:50:42 [timbl]
Does you software not handle it?
00:51:00 [timbl]
hmm .. good question .. I woul dbe surpsied if it wasn't
00:51:12 [melvster]
it's possible, ive not looked into it closely, initially have concentrated on rdf/xml and rdfa ... but n3 is on my list
00:51:49 [melvster]
looks like arc2 does parse n3
00:52:46 [melvster]
serializes to ntriples rdf/xml rdf/json and turtle
00:52:57 [melvster]
will look into n3 support
00:54:05 [melvster]
ill delete those test issues i added too
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01:01:09 [timbl]
not to worry :)
01:01:21 [timbl]
But you should be able to do it all using rdf/xml too
01:01:33 [timbl]
Just convert the tracker definition into rdf/xml
01:01:42 [timbl]
and save it and adapt it as needed
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01:15:24 [melvster]
will do ... need to get to bed now ... thanks for the tips! :)
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