IRC log of dig on 2010-08-22

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03:45:18 [timbl]
No, roundup.py exports at the moment only CSV
03:45:31 [timbl]
see http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/Makefil
03:45:36 [timbl]
see http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/Makefile
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03:48:45 [timbl]
oooo .. maybe you can just ask for much more on the CSV export
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17:48:41 [danbri]
hey any MIT folk happen to know this guy? http://web.mit.edu/~rsalakhu/www/index.html
17:48:46 [danbri]
Ruslan Salakhutdinov
17:49:11 [danbri]
does v interesting work on machine learning; if I was there I'd be trying to get him interested in RDF, linked data datasets etc...
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18:00:20 [kennyluck]
Huh
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18:59:53 [SimpsonTP]
hi
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19:28:38 [timbl]
core
19:30:53 [danbri]
if you can spec how you think it should work, that might be a healthy nudge
19:32:21 [danbri]
ah, it might be something to do with the org who host it for dcmi not being fluent in conneg...
19:32:28 [danbri]
would rdfa be good enough these days?
19:41:45 [kennyluck]
doesn't work yet in Tabulator. :)
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19:42:18 [timbl]
They just need to log onto purl.org and set the return code to be 303
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19:42:29 [timbl]
:)
19:42:58 [timbl]
I have Jeni's code inthere but it is designed to work in jquery, and I need it independent of jquery
19:43:26 [timbl]
this weekend I am rescuing the old tabulator issue list into rdf
19:43:46 [danbri]
will that help get the issues closed?
19:44:22 [kennyluck]
timbl, cool.
19:44:29 [kennyluck]
Yes, it will.
19:44:33 [danbri]
:) then
19:44:48 [kennyluck]
I really want to file this rdfa bug as a super urgent one. :)
19:45:05 [danbri]
javascript is such a huge deal lately, that having a nice packaged rdf library could reach 1000s of developers (and sites, apps...)
19:45:28 [timbl]
We will probably need various substates of closed, like "overtaken by events" and "what on earth was that" :)
19:45:41 [danbri]
can the library aspect of tabulator get equal priority with the UI/firefox addon aspect?
19:45:56 [danbri]
oh btw timbl, i owe you 5 euros
19:46:04 [timbl]
The library is feeling pretty good now. mh and webr3 have ben writing tests
19:46:47 [timbl]
5 € ?
19:46:53 [danbri]
sold you a foaf property (foaf:status) on condition it was added by end of last year, ... but I added it a day later (1st jan)
19:47:21 [danbri]
some seedy deal in a bar in Madrid, WWW2009 :) I think you have a receipt somewhere
19:47:43 [timbl]
In that case me friend I require that use the 5€ to buy yourself a beer
19:48:01 [timbl]
(keep the receipt!)
19:48:36 [danbri]
I'll stash it for a rainy day
19:48:46 [danbri]
but interested if you ever did anything needing/using that status property
19:48:47 [SimpsonTP]
timbl, saw my problem description of friday ?
19:48:56 [kennyluck]
Hey, by the way, danbri. Are you coming here (Japan) for the Web on TV workshop?
19:49:02 [danbri]
I wish
19:49:04 [danbri]
sadly not!
19:49:09 [kennyluck]
Ahhhhh!
19:49:21 [kennyluck]
I thought we could have a local Linked Data meeting.
19:49:24 [danbri]
airplane tickets don't grow on trees...
19:49:28 [kennyluck]
s/meeting/gathering/
19:49:31 [kennyluck]
Sigh...
19:49:39 [danbri]
that would be fun
19:49:45 [danbri]
and the tv workshop is looking good too
19:50:15 [kennyluck]
I don't know, but hey. You are one of the commitee member, how come you are not coming? danbri
19:50:37 [danbri]
on the .js side btw, here's a tv demo - http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicecupoftea/4897672488/ ... strophe.js in tv and handset
19:50:59 [danbri]
(haha, if it was that easy i'd be on a lot more programme committees...)
19:51:04 [kennyluck]
:)
19:53:11 [timbl]
so danbri, the tabulatro should come with a set of - rdflib, jquery, rdfquery, and a set of widgets whcih can be used in mashups as well as in the tabulator extension.
19:54:01 [timbl]
(danbri - are you on the hg refactor branch for tabulator?)
19:54:21 [timbl]
SimponTP, no - pointer?
19:56:39 [SimpsonTP]
timbl, http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-08-20#T12-51-51
20:03:11 [kennyluck]
danbri, do you have any idea whether libby is coming to the workshop or not?
20:03:23 [timbl]
should I use dct:creator or foaf:maker ?
20:03:38 [kennyluck]
dct:creator for sure!
20:04:30 [timbl]
SimpsonTP, you can try registering a bug in the data wiki
20:04:32 [danbri]
libby - i don't think she can make it either
20:04:36 [kennyluck]
(This is my criterion. dc is for metadata and foaf is for raw data)
20:04:37 [timbl]
at the tabulator issue tracker
20:04:39 [SimpsonTP]
timbl, is it up again ?
20:04:40 [kennyluck]
OK
20:05:47 [danbri]
re dct:creator or foaf:maker, I'd use DC unless the vast majority of your data is FOAF and nothing else using dct: ns
20:05:53 [knappy]
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20:06:06 [timbl]
I have a big mixture
20:06:20 [knappy]
timbl I just sent you an email
20:06:35 [kennyluck]
Yeah, timbl, your N3 has always been a target for studying N3. :)
20:07:43 [timbl]
http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1282507620632
20:09:46 [SimpsonTP]
ah it is :)
20:12:51 [SimpsonTP]
okay bedtime here
20:13:30 [timbl]
Ok, good night .. sorry no one who can figure that bug out here now... I am up t my eyes in moving the bugs from the old system to the new
20:13:45 [timbl]
but yoru bug has a URI
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20:18:56 [kennyluck]
Hey knappy, we have now a mailing list for the (future) HTML5 Chinese Interest Group -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-zh/
20:19:50 [knappy]
Oh that's really cool
20:19:53 [knappy]
thanks
20:19:53 [kennyluck]
Why don't you give a self-introduction there cause I am afraid that currently we don't have many mails in Simplified Chinese.
20:20:24 [knappy]
do people there prefer Chinese over English?
20:20:37 [kennyluck]
No english there!
20:20:49 [kennyluck]
Well, I mean. We prefer Chinese.
20:22:03 [knappy]
Can people from Taiwan read Simplified?
20:22:42 [kennyluck]
Yes. On the other hand, can people from China read Traditional?
20:23:39 [knappy]
Yeah
20:26:03 [kennyluck]
Then that's great. But obviously currently we are not having enough participation from China. Zi Bin from Opera is working hard on that, but why don't you give a self-introuction, knappy?
20:26:27 [knappy]
Yeah, I will, after I read all the posts first :D
20:26:43 [knappy]
Kenny, how did you know these people?
20:26:58 [knappy]
from all over the world
20:27:53 [kennyluck]
Believe me, after you go back to home down. You'll find how good you're at speaking Chinese, as compared to English. :)
20:28:12 [kennyluck]
Speaking and promoting stuff in Chinese is a piece of cake.
20:28:26 [kennyluck]
s/home down/home town/
20:30:21 [timbl]
Hmmm I have many ontologies in this bug data but no SIOC yet
20:30:36 [timbl]
maybe cioc for messsgaes
20:34:09 [kennyluck]
timbl, what about the baetle model? http://code.google.com/p/baetle/ It uses SIOC
20:34:41 [timbl]
Looked at it
20:34:55 [timbl]
http://rdfs.org/sioc/ns#
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