IRC log of dig on 2010-08-26

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Joe? sorry I missed your message
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presbrey, they could do the call in the conference room if you need
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14:58:51 [timbl]
There is an outstandinghead, unmerged, of Oshani:
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changeset: 883:4f4f1d1e3c6a
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parent: 876:4fd0b71b60ae
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user: Oshani Seneviratne <oshani@csail.mit.edu>
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date: Tue May 25 14:54:23 2010 -0400
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summary: fixed the analysis pane not collapsing
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15:40:08 [timbl]
I'm on the end of a slower line, might have to increase the default timeout in tabulator
15:40:30 [timbl]
Hmm .. go it again that 200 error:
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Internal Server Error
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The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
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Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
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More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
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-------------
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for http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue
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not 200, 500
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15:53:00 [timbl]
Lots of svn errors - who is doing svn on tabulator.org -- does the wiki server try to use SVN? svn: '/dig/!svn/bc/29568/2009/mod_authz_webid/Makefile' path not found
15:54:14 [presbrey]
hmm
15:54:39 [timbl]
More like this: [Thu Aug 26 11:39:22 2010] [error] [client 207.164.79.1] Premature end of script headers: handler.py
15:54:41 [presbrey]
http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/msg still looks good. works for you?
15:55:10 [presbrey]
actually, issue works for me too
15:55:15 [timbl]
207.164.79.1 is me
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~]$ time curl -s http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue | rapper -ci turtle -o turtle - http://null/ >/dev/null
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rapper: Parsing file <stdin> with parser turtle and base URI http://null/
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rapper: Serializing with serializer turtle and base URI http://null/
15:55:38 [presbrey]
rapper: Parsing returned 3735 triples
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real0m0.122s
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user0m0.022s
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sys0m0.010s
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15:56:46 [timbl]
Is there a timeout in apache when a client takes the file slowly?
15:56:59 [timbl]
I get that error message for http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/msg
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I'll fix the timeout in tabr.
15:58:20 [presbrey]
and yes, I do WebID SVN stuff there: http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/redmine/projects/authn-webid/repository/diff?rev=29539&rev_to=29538&type=sbs
15:59:35 [presbrey]
so, there must be a problem with the wiki conneg
15:59:42 [presbrey]
since curl is running it just fine
16:01:29 [timbl]
yes I can pull msg from here using plain curl
16:02:08 [timbl]
When the tabulator send accpt headers with both n3 and rdf, which does the server send?
16:02:50 [presbrey]
depends on q=
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(curl for msg took 4s because of the 3G connection I am on)
16:03:48 [timbl]
So what about when ffox sends for example
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network.http.accept.default;text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.5,text/plain;q=0.5,image/png,*/*;q=0.1,application/rdf+xml;q=1.0,text/n3;q=0.4,text/rdf+n3;q=0.5
16:04:21 [timbl]
I wonder why it does that
16:04:30 [presbrey]
not too bad, 745k @ 4s ~ 150...200KB/s
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not complaining
16:05:16 [presbrey]
from above I'd guess app/rdf+xml wins
16:05:27 [timbl]
so the prob is that tabulator asks for rdf with 2.5 times th q of n3
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and then that the conversion on the server dies with that "premature end of script" OTTTE error
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OWTTE
16:07:09 [presbrey]
we need some curl w/ various accept: test script
16:13:31 [timbl]
yes
16:14:32 [timbl]
I have fixed my own ff accpt header to have no q (ie 1.0) for both n3 and rdf/xml
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still bug
16:15:10 [presbrey]
yeah I haven't fixed it quite yet
16:16:53 [timbl]
curl -H "Accept:application/rdf+xml,text/n3" http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/msg > ,msg2
16:17:12 [presbrey]
so, this was the performance fix...
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http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/redmine/projects/wiki/repository/revisions/29568/diff/handler.py
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not sure if that will mean much to you
16:17:41 [presbrey]
but basically, the FCGI handler expects a generator
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and returning the data as a string turns it into a 1-char-by-char generator
16:18:17 [timbl]
:)
16:18:31 [timbl]
Ok, equivalent of logging it to a teletype
16:18:43 [presbrey]
yep just as you suspected in your email
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Not often little ugs just perfeorm very badly
16:19:03 [presbrey]
I used strace to debug apache=>python
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saw it feeding 1 byte at a time
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looked at the fcgi code
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etc.
16:22:07 [timbl]
Ok, curl -H "Accept:application/rdf+xml;q=0.5,text/n3" http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/msg > ,msg3 fails
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but
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curl -H "Accept:text/n3" http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/msg > ,msg4
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works
16:22:42 [presbrey]
a) this should get fixed
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but
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b) why doesn't tabulator prefer n3?
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curl -H "Accept:application/rdf+xml;q=0.001,text/n3" http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/msg > ,msg5
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fails too
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so any occurrence of rdf/xml gets precedence
16:24:14 [timbl]
well, my tabualtor prefs my have been set for testing something ages ago
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about:config prefs stick
16:26:37 [presbrey]
whats the rule if no q is specified? 1.0 is implied?
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16:31:44 [timbl]
yes
16:34:06 [presbrey]
so that bug is fixed
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http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/redmine/projects/wiki/repository/diff?rev=29569&rev_to=29568
16:37:17 [knappy]
Hey timbl, did you get the email I sent yesterday?
16:44:32 [timbl]
yes, about fixing one bug and running it through rapper
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I should maybe install rapper
16:44:49 [timbl]
I use cwm for most things
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16:52:13 [knappy]
timbl, found the email?
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You hi knappy -- sorry didn't see it was you
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yes, i did get your email
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I did a sync
16:52:47 [knappy]
ok :)
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got your code
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is my question clear?
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I learned a bit about hg
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you can have >1 head in the repo on the same branch
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I said merge and it asked which merge, i meregd with your latest and that was ok.
16:53:49 [knappy]
oh
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then i did mereg again and it throew me into a diff editor betewn your old pupspane and the enw one. I selecetd the new one
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so i think your earlier problem was from your not doing a merge of yoru stuff
16:54:46 [knappy]
oh sorry about that
16:55:03 [timbl]
If you say hg heads
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then you get a list of heads.
16:55:22 [knappy]
yeah
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There are now two, the main one an one of Oshani from March
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3?
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There shoiuld ideally be one head
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changeset: 1020:81de36b83b84
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branch: refactor
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tag: tip
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user: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl+hg@w3.org>
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date: Thu Aug 26 11:28:25 2010 -0400
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summary: ooops - bug fix
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changeset: 893:b2123f8e704e
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branch: socialpane2
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parent: 882:d458cda051ef
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user: charles2 <charles2@mit.edu>
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date: Fri May 28 17:52:13 2010 -0400
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summary: to be honest i dont really remember what changes i made here :)
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changeset: 883:4f4f1d1e3c6a
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parent: 876:4fd0b71b60ae
16:56:27 [timbl]
That's in the socialpane2 branch
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The refactor branch only has one head, the tip
16:57:07 [knappy]
ok
16:57:21 [timbl]
presbrey, great -- i have the msg in tabr now
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yep
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stats are much better now
16:57:52 [timbl]
knappy, I tried your pane -- ndo I have to load some journal lists first befroe it will work?
16:58:05 [knappy]
yeah
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0.2s for the original n3; 0.4s for the conneg'd rdfxml
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http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/docs/collections
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timbl, is my question in the email understandable?
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partly
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There is code in userinput.js to put code in the wiki
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and yo have code to do that
17:00:04 [knappy]
yeah
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but, I want to be able to talk to at least the varibles in pubsPane
17:00:44 [timbl]
yes.
17:00:49 [knappy]
how do i do that?
17:01:19 [timbl]
Well, the way I have done i withe the widget I use in the issue/pane.js was to have a callback
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callback(success, errorbody)
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IRC
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if i recall correctly
17:02:32 [knappy]
ok, I'll look into it
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So the widget calls sprql.update() and gets a callback, updates its widget stuff, and then calls back in turn the pane.
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In yor case the autocomplete dropdown entry box thing is the eidget
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It may well be that kenny didn' have a callback, he just put the code for use case in there, but you can add a callback -- you can add a callback to the extraInformation object whcih gets passes around.
17:05:07 [knappy]
ok
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thank you very much
17:22:38 [timbl]
y w
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So if I load state and issue and msg from that directory at once
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and then look at http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track#Bug
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for exampe I get a list of tabulator bugs old and new
17:25:22 [timbl]
though the table doesn't contain their states, as their states are not properties but types within a disjointUnion type, and the table thing doesn't know how to deal with those yes .. but significant progress!
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