IRC log of dig on 2010-08-31

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00:17:47 [timbl]
Jambo's sidebar?
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query=INSERT { ?n49 <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl#agent> <http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i> . }
00:49:50 [timbl]
Ooops no WHERE
00:51:39 [timbl]
no response
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01:26:17 [presbrey]
hi timbl
01:26:38 [presbrey]
i see a 500 in my email from the acl update you sent
01:26:46 [presbrey]
i must have written the acl as root and apache can't touch it
01:27:17 [timbl]
Probably wise :)
01:27:25 [presbrey]
so do
01:27:47 [timbl]
You thgink you sent a 500 message back?
01:28:02 [presbrey]
yes i got the email 39 minutes ago
01:28:29 [presbrey]
8;48pm
01:28:39 [presbrey]
just forwarded it along to timbl-at-w3
01:29:05 [presbrey]
chmod a[plus]rw /srv/dig/www/wiki/.meta.n3 will do it
01:29:09 [presbrey]
i already added you to the acl however
01:29:29 [timbl]
I know, it was the only simple edit I could tes
01:29:31 [timbl]
t
01:30:27 [presbrey]
so we're the only ones on the agenda tomorrow
01:30:40 [presbrey]
i can make a slide with the new features vs. existing features
01:30:58 [presbrey]
be good for documentation purposes as well
01:31:10 [presbrey]
or what do you want to do
01:32:46 [timbl]
A demo?
01:33:19 [timbl]
If yo could describe the state of things -- what is available, what langauges, a block daogram of how it fits together for the visually inclined,
01:33:35 [timbl]
with of course pointers to people can try it out themselves
01:33:56 [timbl]
i could demo the tracker as a data wiki app
01:37:04 [timbl]
Have you used Jambo's ACL sidebar -- if so do you have a pointer to it?
01:44:03 [timbl]
People will note down what you say in IRC
01:44:12 [timbl]
so you don't have to everything on slides but it helps
01:44:17 [timbl]
Is Ericp around?
01:44:34 [ericP]
heya timbl
01:44:49 [ericP]
haven't read back
01:45:53 [timbl]
Joe seems to be prepping for the talk tomorrow ...
01:45:59 [presbrey]
just a bit
01:46:18 [presbrey]
im actually doing facetime with a friend in canada right now on iphone 4
01:46:29 [presbrey]
but im here
01:46:32 [presbrey]
hi eric1
01:47:28 [ericP]
heya
01:48:09 [ericP]
is "facetime" one of them new-fangled techs the kids are using these days?
01:48:29 [timbl]
its an ap
01:48:45 [ericP]
's probably why the web is dead
01:48:56 [timbl]
yes
01:49:01 [timbl]
no internet left.
01:49:24 [presbrey]
facetime is awesome
01:49:47 [timbl]
just ain't fast enough I guess
01:49:47 [presbrey]
facetime is so much better than skype
01:50:26 [timbl]
because it is smooth and shiny and apple?
01:50:39 [presbrey]
given just got my iphone 4 on friday
01:51:00 [timbl]
or because it has serious engineerin in it to really work at low latency with adaptive encoding?
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01:57:48 [timbl]
attempt to update http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/user>
01:57:51 [timbl]
fails
01:58:18 [timbl]
A strange file .. I can't get tabulator to clear its cache, or else tabulator always gets an old copy
01:58:22 [timbl]
cwm gets a new copy
02:01:39 [ericP]
it looks to me like facetime got a bit jealous of irc
02:35:42 [timbl]
sparql: sending update to <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue>
02:35:42 [timbl]
query=INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue13> <http://www.w3.org/2005/01/wf/flow#description> "testing a description\n" .
02:35:43 [timbl]
}
02:35:46 [timbl]
No response?
02:37:09 [timbl]
heads off
02:38:14 [timbl]
yes, can't ad new issue
02:38:49 [timbl]
sparql: sending update to <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state>
02:38:49 [timbl]
query=INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1283222272721> <http://www.w3.org/2005/01/wf/flow#tracker> <http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track#TabTracker> .
02:38:49 [timbl]
<http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1283222272721> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title> "Monday test issue @@@" .
02:38:50 [timbl]
<http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1283222272721> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/created> "2010-08-31T02:37:52Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> .
02:38:50 [timbl]
<http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1283222272721> <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/issues/track#New> .
02:38:50 [timbl]
}
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02:39:03 [timbl]
in that case .. sorry for for the spam
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05:19:59 [presbrey]
DIGlogger, pointer
05:19:59 [presbrey]
See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-08-31#T05-19-59
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05:36:26 [presbrey]
i test sparql insert like this...
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curl -d @insert-webid.sparql -v http://tabulator.org/wiki/test -H "Content-type: application/sparql-query"
05:36:38 [presbrey]
and works
05:38:26 [presbrey]
i see some an error around 9.45 but success from you around 10.30
05:38:48 [presbrey]
error was in rdf about prefixes
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sorry peer reset me for a bit
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11:35:58 [timbl]
Oh, Igot it - I had turned onFirebug.
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12:11:56 [SimpsonTP]
timbl, did you intend to send me a mail yesterday ? or will I be notified on the next release ?
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17:15:03 [knappy]
timbl, where is the part in userinput that handles clicks on dropdown menu again? I can't seem to find it.
17:18:06 [timbl]
It isn't in user input its in outlinbe
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outline.js
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TabulatorMousedown
17:19:06 [knappy]
thanks
17:19:50 [timbl]
Now a good design pattern it sturns out ... should have put sep handlers on each thing
17:20:12 [knappy]
thing?
17:20:35 [timbl]
On each icon, field, etc
17:20:52 [timbl]
Instead if when there is a click thinking, now what icon was clicked?"
17:21:34 [knappy]
why is that not good
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17:29:11 [timbl]
Not modular, hard to maintain -- as you are fining!
17:29:15 [timbl]
finding
17:34:28 [knappy]
timbl, are you sure TabulatorMousedown is it?
17:34:55 [knappy]
my dump in there doesn't show up when I click on a menu
17:38:21 [timbl]
Ok, i am wrong then
17:38:45 [timbl]
grep addEventListener userinput.js
17:39:24 [SimpsonTP]
re
17:39:46 [SimpsonTP]
timbl, the new rdflib.js from hg is supposed to work with fetching ??
17:40:35 [timbl]
It has web.js in it
17:40:54 [timbl]
you say f = $rdf.fetcher(kb)
17:41:00 [timbl]
IIRC
17:41:13 [timbl]
you say sf = $rdf.fetcher(kb)
17:41:59 [SimpsonTP]
ah I see
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17:47:37 [SimpsonTP]
hmm stil doesn't seem to work though :-/
18:00:04 [SimpsonTP]
do I need to implement the 'fetcher' ( 3rd argument for kb.query ) myself ?
18:02:36 [knappy]
timbl, I searched for "grep -ir 'addEventListener.*userinput.js' ." and didn't find anything
18:03:07 [knappy]
what can I do now?
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this.lastModified.addEventListener('keypress',this.AutoComplete,false);
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this.lastModified.addEventListener('keypress',this.getAutoCompleteHandler(menu),false);
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div.addEventListener('mouseover',highlightInput,false);
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input1.addEventListener('click',this.createNew,false);
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input2.addEventListener('click',this.inputURI,false);
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window.addEventListener('keypress',function(e){if (e.ctrlKey && (e.charCode==115 || e.charCode==113)) UserInput.switchMode();},false);
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window.addEventListener('mousedown',UserInput.Mousedown,false);
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inputBox.addEventListener('keypress',UpAndDown,false)
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This.lastModified.addEventListener('keypress',typeURIhandler,false);
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//menu.addEventListener('click',false);
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table.addEventListener('mouseover',highlightTr,false);
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table.addEventListener('click',selectItem,false);
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tr.addEventListener('click',clearMenu,'false');
18:04:39 [timbl]
$
18:05:21 [timbl]
That's a list of event listeners
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in userinput.js
18:09:10 [knappy]
ok
18:16:17 [SimpsonTP]
timbl, http://www.clanganke.de/test/rdflib.js/03-create-lib.new
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18:16:36 [knappy]
timbl, the click is from this line "table.addEventListener('click',selectItem,false);"
18:16:40 [SimpsonTP]
and the resulting file: http://www.clanganke.de/test/rdflib.js/rdflib.js
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18:25:07 [cla_]
hi all
18:25:16 [SimpsonTP]
cla_, is the one working on the script link I just posted
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18:34:19 [SimpsonTP]
cla_, everybody is out to lunch or something ;)
18:34:49 [cla_]
I see
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18:49:38 [amy]
Joe? where's the presentation today? is it here in G531?
18:49:48 [amy]
we're letting W3C team know so they can attend
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19:30:47 [lkagal]
amy ? If you're talking about the data wiki discussion yes, it will be in G531
19:31:56 [SimpsonTP]
so everyone in this channel will be in that meeting ? :)
19:34:35 [amy]
great thanks!
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19:39:04 [presbrey]
data wiki slides:
19:39:15 [presbrey]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/Talks/0831-DataWiki-presbrey/slides.pdf
19:45:14 [kennyluck]
presbrey, is this work going to be presented at SWXG?
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20:04:59 [amy]
ok, my foaf file fixed now at least
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kennyluck, presbrey is presenting these slides at the DIG seminar
20:11:17 [kennyluck]
oshani, oh OK. I thought that it was over. Didn't pay attention.
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20:38:39 [amy]
and webid now working and I can see the https version of the data wiki. cool
20:57:38 [kennyluck]
wow
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