IRC log of dig on 2010-09-04

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18:45:38 [kennyluck]
timbl: re: "Bring in the refactor branch which, while not finished, is now clearly superior to the old deault, now called pre2010refactor branch". You mean, it now handles 303?
18:46:06 [kennyluck]
I would yell "cool", if it does! :)
18:48:25 [timbl]
no
18:48:29 [timbl]
sorry
18:49:06 [timbl]
It doesn't handle 303 properyly.and the hack you had in place doesn't apply with the new arrangement
18:49:07 [kennyluck]
Oh, OK. At least it seems to select the right language based on browser settings.
18:49:16 [kennyluck]
I was very into this part.
18:49:30 [timbl]
In the labeler you mean?
18:49:36 [kennyluck]
Un-huh.
18:49:55 [timbl]
So when you use it you get chinese where it exists?
18:49:58 [kennyluck]
I noticed this one "Fixed bug that labaler was not connecetd any more through AJAR_handleNewTerm which has moved "
18:50:24 [kennyluck]
Well, now I am in Japaense environment :)
18:50:31 [kennyluck]
I see DOAP predicates in Japanese, yes.
18:51:00 [kennyluck]
Uh... not in pre2010refactor, but the current one I have...
18:51:08 [timbl]
Yes, for a while the labeler was broken because I moved another routine AJAR_handleNewTerm from tabulator.util to rdf.util and missed one place (xpcom.js) where it was referenced.
18:52:36 [kennyluck]
timbl, regarding 303, would my recipe help? (I sent it 3 or 4 months ago, to jambo and it is on this tabulator list)
18:52:47 [kennyluck]
s/this/the/
18:52:58 [timbl]
Is this a new receipe?
18:53:04 [kennyluck]
No.
18:53:11 [timbl]
the sme as before?
18:53:18 [kennyluck]
"and the hack you had in place doesn't apply with the new arrangement"
18:53:25 [kennyluck]
What does this mean?
18:53:26 [timbl]
presumably the old one stopped working?
18:53:57 [kennyluck]
Jambo created a new mechanism for this RDF -> HTML converter thing.
18:54:07 [timbl]
it means that I assume that the method you had had of doing the 3030 before the refactor won't work becuase of the new way the tabulator is called.
18:54:10 [kennyluck]
But I belived it is fixable.
18:54:38 [kennyluck]
I think it is very fixable and I sent jambo some info.
18:57:37 [kennyluck]
timbl,
18:57:41 [kennyluck]
I briefly glanced over the re-factored. nsIConverter is all gone now and changed
18:57:41 [kennyluck]
to this TracingListener thing. So, simply grabing two or three lines from the
18:57:42 [kennyluck]
old converter.js about tabulator.rc (defined in js/tab/request.js and
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components/xpcom.js) and injecting into onStopRequest of js/init/init.js will
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work.
18:57:43 [kennyluck]
Oh. You also need to port the part of startup code from the old version
18:57:43 [kennyluck]
(components/startup.js? I can't really remember...) which asks tabulator.rc to
18:57:43 [kennyluck]
listen to HTTP Requests in order to record redirections. This is hacky and
18:57:44 [kennyluck]
memory-costly and maybe silly, I know.
18:57:44 [kennyluck]
Sorry I forgot about this.
18:58:50 [timbl]
you send it to me?
18:59:20 [kennyluck]
timbl, It is on tabulator@lists.csail.mit.edu
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date?
18:59:52 [kennyluck]
with title "[Tabulator] Weird smushing problem"
18:59:58 [kennyluck]
Tue, 22 Jun 2010
19:01:03 [timbl]
3 such messages
19:01:08 [SimpsonTP]
ah people are alive here
19:02:41 [kennyluck]
timbl, Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:11:03 -0400 , or I can send it again.
19:04:50 [timbl]
I see the messages
19:05:02 [kennyluck]
oops, just sent that again.
19:07:55 [timbl]
You say in one message:
19:07:56 [timbl]
I briefly glanced over the re-factored. nsIConverter is all gone now and changed
19:07:56 [timbl]
to this TracingListener thing. So, simply grabing two or three lines from the
19:07:57 [timbl]
old converter.js about tabulator.rc (defined in js/tab/request.js and
19:07:57 [timbl]
components/xpcom.js) and injecting into onStopRequest of js/init/init.js will
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work.
19:08:01 [timbl]
and in the next:
19:08:33 [timbl]
"Oh. You also need to port the part of startup code from the old version
19:08:33 [timbl]
(components/startup.js? I can't really remember...) which asks tabulator.rc to
19:08:34 [timbl]
listen to HTTP Requests in order to record redirections. This is hacky and
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memory-costly and maybe silly, I know.
19:08:34 [timbl]
"
19:08:59 [kennyluck]
Yes, timbl.
19:09:25 [kennyluck]
Was this tried and failed?
19:11:09 [timbl]
I don't know anyone understood exactly what you meant
19:11:56 [timbl]
"So, simply grabing two or three lines from the old converter.js"
19:13:12 [kennyluck]
"... which contains the string 'tabulator.rc' "
19:13:21 [kennyluck]
timbl
19:13:23 [timbl]
BYW if you load http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue then you get all the old roundup bugs in th enew tracker
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19:14:00 [timbl]
http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue238
19:14:31 [timbl]
Ooops -- click on the boottom right URI doesmn't work any more
19:17:27 [kennyluck]
"So, simply grabing two or three lines from the old converter.js which contains the string 'tabulator.rc' ". Does this make more sense know, timbl?
19:19:46 [timbl]
Well, which lines
19:20:03 [timbl]
I never knew how your 303 thing worked
19:21:07 [kennyluck]
grep -e "tabulator.rc" converter.js
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1. It records all redirections (because the lack of a "previousRequest" property on a nsIHTTPChannel)
19:23:33 [kennyluck]
2. When a RDF document is encountered the record is used to get the right URI and deleted.
19:24:07 [kennyluck]
The record is a global object to behave like a previousRequest. I believe I explained this.
19:24:44 [kennyluck]
s/like a previousRequest/as if the "previousRequest" property exists/
19:31:04 [timbl]
I have to go now, get some things before the shops close
19:31:33 [timbl]
Maybe I'll look at it later
19:32:09 [timbl]
I also want to look at the problems haochi had with the menus .. later
19:33:27 [kennyluck]
timbl: I can spend sometime tomorrow to try to fix the 303 problem.
19:33:48 [kennyluck]
... I didn't do it simply because I thought jambo was working on it.
19:37:37 [kennyluck]
I hope someone can explain this new TracingListener thing, too.
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20:01:24 [kennyluck]
I and so happy now lots of things can be done with HTML5 apis
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onhashchange, drag and drop, etc. etc.
20:02:28 [kennyluck]
Maybe it's time to attack drag and drop again :p
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21:07:14 [ericP]
timbl, challenge with statically compiling SWObjects on mac: i get "ld: library not found for -lcrt0.o"
21:07:50 [timbl]
even though you have a crt0.o around
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or because that is a standrd lib the boost needs and the mac doesn't have?
21:08:53 [webr3]
timbl, in n3.n3 it's got langcode cfg:canStartWith "a" - is that correct or should it be cfg:canStartWith "@" ?
21:10:12 [ericP]
timbl, i'm not sure what's up. there appears to be no libcrt0 on the box, and google searches for the error lead me to believe the answer is "compile dynamically"
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22:19:00 [ericP]
timbl, you installed boost from fink or macports?
22:20:51 [timbl]
macports
22:21:14 [ericP]
tx
22:21:36 [timbl]
I used to use fink on my laptop years ago -- it is very much debian, seeemed to work. But then macports was what I needed when I thought I needed Courier email server.
22:22:39 [ericP]
gotcha
22:31:23 [timbl]
We have a /usr/lib/csrt1.o
22:31:32 [timbl]
We have a /usr/lib/crt1.o
22:31:35 [timbl]
I mean
22:35:35 [timbl]
Prob came across same google discussion as you did
22:35:47 [timbl]
Don't use "-static".
23:06:00 [ericP]
yeah, i now understand that that's not exactly the same as "don't compile statically"
23:07:10 [ericP]
timbl, how'd you install libmysqlclient? macports as well?
23:08:06 [ericP]
i guess /opt/local/lib/mysql5/ says "yes"
23:15:50 [ericP]
tried sudo port install mysql5client and mysql5dev but neither existed. now waiting to see if sudo port install mysql5 worked
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23:25:09 [timbl]
macports
23:26:24 [timbl]
it was mysql5 maybe
23:27:02 [timbl]
$ port list mysql5
23:27:03 [timbl]
mysql5 @5.1.45 databases/mysql5
23:28:40 [timbl]
$ port installed
23:28:40 [timbl]
The following ports are currently installed:
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boost @1.42.0_0 (active)
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boost-jam @3.1.17_0 (active)
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bzip2 @1.0.5_3+darwin (active)
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courier-authlib @0.61.0_0 (active)
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db44 @4.4.20_1 (active)
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expat @2.0.1_0 (active)
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mysql5 @5.1.45_0 (active)
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ncurses @5.7_0+darwin_10 (active)
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ncursesw @5.7_0+darwin_10 (active)
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openssl @0.9.8n_0+darwin (active)
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readline @6.1.000_1+darwin (active)
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zlib @1.2.5_0 (active)
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$
23:32:14 [ericP]
neato. tx!
23:32:28 [ericP]
taking a while on mu's machine
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(where "a while" >> "an attention span")
23:35:57 [ericP]
maybe it's sleepy