IRC log of dig on 2010-09-17

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:02:18 [melvster]
melvster has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
00:10:39 [oshani]
oshani (~oshani@31-33-79.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
00:38:05 [lkagal]
lkagal (~lkagal@pool-96-237-240-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig
00:41:30 [lkagal_]
lkagal_ (~lkagal@pool-96-237-240-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig
00:41:30 [lkagal]
lkagal has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
00:43:34 [mcherian]
mcherian has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
02:02:06 [kennyluck]
kennyluck has quit (Quit: kennyluck)
02:19:46 [mcherian]
mcherian (~mathew@c-24-91-159-17.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig
02:33:49 [oshani]
oshani has quit (Quit: Mama nidi!)
02:40:59 [oshani]
oshani (~oshani@31-33-79.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
02:41:22 [oshani]
oshani has quit (Client Quit)
03:08:53 [lkagal_]
lkagal_ has quit (Quit: lkagal_)
03:23:15 [lkagal]
lkagal (~lkagal@pool-96-237-240-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig
03:44:03 [melvster]
melvster (~melvster@p5797F723.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #dig
03:53:54 [melvster]
melvster has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
04:28:42 [lkagal]
lkagal has quit (Quit: lkagal)
04:35:26 [kennyluck]
kennyluck (~kennyluck@EM111-188-73-112.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) has joined #dig
05:12:21 [nunnun_away]
nunnun_away is now known as nunnun
07:07:14 [nunnun]
nunnun is now known as nunnun_away
07:22:25 [mhausenblas]
mhausenblas (~mhausenbl@wlan-nat.fwgal01.deri.ie) has joined #dig
07:28:10 [drrho]
drrho has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
07:32:27 [drrho]
drrho (~rho@chello213047112079.11.11.vie.surfer.at) has joined #dig
09:09:22 [mhausenblas]
mhausenblas has quit (Quit: brb)
09:43:37 [mcherian]
mcherian has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
10:35:54 [webr3]
webr3 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
10:38:26 [kennyluck]
kennyluck has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
10:56:14 [kennyluck]
kennyluck (~kennyluck@EM111-188-83-55.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) has joined #dig
11:15:02 [RalphS]
RalphS (~swick@30-7-93.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
11:18:32 [mhausenblas]
mhausenblas (~mhausenbl@wlan-nat.fwgal01.deri.ie) has joined #dig
11:47:25 [marisol]
marisol (~marisol@pool-151-203-253-169.bos.east.verizon.net) has joined #dig
12:31:24 [melvster]
melvster (~melvster@p5797F26E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #dig
12:34:11 [SimpsonTP]
SimpsonTP (~bart@ip78-70-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) has joined #dig
12:43:12 [SimpsonTP]
SimpsonTP has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
13:11:55 [lkagal]
lkagal (~lkagal@pool-96-237-240-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig
13:13:14 [webr3]
webr3 (~nathan@host86-147-36-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) has joined #dig
13:32:06 [kennyluck]
kennyluck has quit (Quit: kennyluck)
13:34:46 [oshani]
oshani (~oshani@31-33-79.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
13:49:34 [SimpsonTP]
SimpsonTP (~bart@ip78-70-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) has joined #dig
14:02:17 [SimpsonTP]
SimpsonTP has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
14:03:23 [nunnun_away]
nunnun_away is now known as nunnun
14:21:56 [nunnun]
nunnun is now known as nunnun_away
14:51:27 [oshani]
oshani has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
14:55:49 [mhausenblas]
mhausenblas has quit (Quit: mhausenblas)
14:58:15 [oshani]
oshani (~oshani@31-33-79.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
15:06:47 [mhausenblas]
mhausenblas (~mhausenbl@wlan-nat.fwgal01.deri.ie) has joined #dig
15:09:15 [betehess]
betehess (~betehess@betehess.w3.org) has joined #dig
15:15:31 [mcherian]
mcherian (~mathew@c-24-91-159-17.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig
15:34:25 [kennyluck]
kennyluck (~kennyluck@EM114-48-30-64.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) has joined #dig
15:42:12 [mhausenblas]
mhausenblas has quit (Quit: mhausenblas)
15:46:19 [mcherian]
mcherian has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
16:10:18 [lkagal]
lkagal has quit (Quit: lkagal)
16:11:56 [lkagal]
lkagal (~lkagal@pool-96-237-240-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig
16:22:01 [SimpsonTP]
SimpsonTP (~bart@ip78-70-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) has joined #dig
17:17:25 [kennyluck]
kennyluck has quit (Quit: kennyluck)
17:56:54 [lkagal]
lkagal has quit (Quit: lkagal)
17:58:32 [lkagal]
lkagal (~lkagal@pool-96-237-240-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #dig
18:31:56 [lkagal]
Hey Pipian, do you have a few mins ?
18:32:30 [lkagal]
For a call / chat on irc, I'm not at MIT today.
18:34:50 [presbrey]
hi lkagal, I assume the foaf:knows bug is via sparql update?
18:37:52 [lkagal]
Hi presbrey, yes I believe it is.
18:38:11 [melvster]
anything i can help with?
18:38:14 [presbrey]
do you have a pointer to the foaf you're editing?
18:38:32 [presbrey]
you can look at the JS if you want, melvster
18:38:37 [presbrey]
When foaf:knows is the property selected  and you paste a URI or put in text, it saves "knows" as the value
18:38:38 [presbrey]
instead. It does not save any other value  except "knows"
18:38:45 [presbrey]
I was going to start by looking at the turtle on-disk
18:39:11 [melvster]
ah ok, i could have looked if it was foaf.me
18:39:23 [melvster]
im moving to flat files
18:39:26 [melvster]
rather than DB storage
18:39:30 [melvster]
not yet done, tho
18:39:37 [presbrey]
melvster, you are on tabulator@csail.mit.edu, are you a committing as well?
18:40:12 [melvster]
im on the list, i havent committed anything yet though ...
18:40:29 [lkagal]
You can try any of these foaf.me uris we've been playing with foaf.me/JB, foaf.me/LD, foaf.me/LD1
18:41:21 [melvster]
cool, thx
18:41:59 [melvster]
presbrey: btw did you get a chance to look at my mail re: a personal data wiki?
18:42:17 [presbrey]
not yet, I think I've missed it so far
18:42:37 [presbrey]
I'm hung on ESW WebID_Protocol_Implementations
18:42:49 [melvster]
only sent an hour ago
18:42:55 [presbrey]
just got dajobe to make WHERE{} optional in SPARQL UPDATE in librdf
18:43:04 [melvster]
cool
18:43:16 [presbrey]
tabulator never sends WHERE{} for INSERT w/o IFP
18:43:39 [melvster]
sent to : presbrey@csail.mit.edu
18:43:42 [presbrey]
ok
18:43:52 [melvster]
nothing urgent
18:43:56 [presbrey]
yes sorry I know beta.foaf.me is still TODO as well
18:44:25 [melvster]
just an idea, i have the domain rdf.me and was wondering if you guys wanted to use it as a 'personal data wiki' domain ... & if you had time to look after it
18:44:28 [presbrey]
I sorta wanted to wait until after the class
18:44:33 [melvster]
no worrie
18:44:35 [presbrey]
since I broke the SSL last time I was playing with it
18:44:39 [melvster]
s/worrie/worries
18:45:01 [melvster]
tho perhaps a personal data wiki may be useful for some of your "hands on" sessions
18:45:05 [presbrey]
or move dev testing to another machine, at least
18:45:06 [melvster]
just wanted to give you the optin
18:45:34 [melvster]
after the class works fine too
18:45:38 [melvster]
i know you guys have tons on ...
18:46:12 [melvster]
im hoping ill be able to help out more, over time ...
18:46:22 [presbrey]
so the idea is...
18:46:24 [presbrey]
foaf.me is just for foaf
18:46:26 [presbrey]
rdf.me is for anything?
18:46:33 [melvster]
right
18:46:38 [presbrey]
I guess foaf.me could feature some networking features
18:46:45 [presbrey]
or a foaf-extended diaspora instance
18:46:49 [presbrey]
etc.
18:46:52 [melvster]
basically focus on the foaf:Person vertical
18:46:55 [melvster]
right
18:47:01 [Pipian]
lkagal, if you are still around
18:47:02 [melvster]
tho diaspora is way too pre alpha to use
18:47:12 [melvster]
much better elgg
18:47:41 [melvster]
but yes, rdf.me a generic data wiki, i can point it to your servers if you want to set one up
18:48:21 [melvster]
i guess really a sandbox / playground area for users to experiment
18:48:54 [melvster]
for those that havent got localhost set up, or want a permanent uri for some data
18:49:19 [melvster]
(if ive made sense, there?)
18:50:07 [presbrey]
sure
18:50:19 [presbrey]
you could copy the tabulator.org records for now
18:50:22 [melvster]
cool, as i say, nothing urgent, just wanted to throw out the option
18:50:36 [presbrey]
I would set the A on @ and *
18:53:38 [melvster]
melvster has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
18:53:52 [melvster]
melvster (~melvster@p5797F26E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #dig
18:56:05 [melvster]
you mean to : 18.181.1.220 ?
18:58:26 [presbrey]
yes, dig.xvm.mit.edu
19:00:49 [melvster]
presbrey: ok ive changed the A to point to 18.181.1.220 ... i cant do the * from the front end ... but can do any that you ask for
19:01:18 [melvster]
or i can put in a ticket if we need
19:02:14 [melvster]
or probably best longer term i can transfer the domain to someone there ... but wait ... do you think it's something you want to do -- the personal data wiki --- right now i just wanted to raise the idea ...
19:02:59 [presbrey]
yes
19:03:06 [presbrey]
its fine to let it point there for now
19:03:12 [presbrey]
if its for academic use
19:03:20 [presbrey]
we can find more disk space or bandwidth if it becomes a problem
19:03:50 [presbrey]
its not like theres thousands of developers banging down our door with sparul http
19:04:30 [melvster]
:)
19:04:37 [melvster]
cool, ok ive changed the 'A'
19:04:39 [Pipian]
lkagal, I've been playing around with making something simple akin to TouchGraph Explorer with the JS InfoVis Toolkit, but I'm realizing that this isn't likely to be done by Tuesday without a lot of work.
19:05:09 [melvster]
yes, i would imagine it's for academic use, im happy to donate it to the community
19:05:16 [presbrey]
it might be interesting to look at doing things with FUSE
19:05:30 [melvster]
much better to see it in use, than sitting idle
19:05:37 [presbrey]
the file-backed feature-set is mostly done
19:09:27 [mcherian]
mcherian (~mathew@30-6-25.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
19:32:10 [oshani]
lkagal, are you joining us for the DIG meeting? we are about to start
19:45:10 [marisol]
she asked me to set up bridge so please dial zakim
19:46:08 [marisol]
marisol has quit (Quit: marisol)
20:07:59 [samuelsw]
samuelsw (~samuelsw@31-33-169.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
20:18:38 [RalphS]
RalphS has quit (Quit: heading to train ...)
20:59:17 [oshani]
oshani has quit (Quit: Mama nidi!)
20:59:23 [samuelsw]
samuelsw has quit (Quit: samuelsw)
21:03:55 [mcherian]
mcherian has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
21:04:39 [oshani]
oshani (~oshani@31-33-79.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
21:08:21 [oshani]
oshani has quit (Client Quit)
21:26:19 [SimpsonTP]
SimpsonTP has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
21:29:45 [amy]
amy has left #dig
21:36:37 [mcherian]
mcherian (~mathew@30-6-25.wireless.csail.mit.edu) has joined #dig
21:46:47 [kennyluck]
kennyluck (~kennyluck@EM114-48-181-175.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) has joined #dig
21:52:29 [samuelsw]
samuelsw (~samuelsw@c-76-19-64-242.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #dig
21:53:52 [mcherian]
mcherian has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
22:03:30 [samuelsw]
samuelsw has quit (Quit: samuelsw)
22:28:46 [lkagal]
lkagal has quit (Quit: lkagal)
22:59:18 [betehess]
betehess has quit (Quit: Leaving)