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13:32:26 <timbl> Happy One Web Day
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14:10:22 <presbrey> <MacTed> melvster - actually ... check the logs from yesterday.  there was more chatter with oshani, and apparently the .../latest link really *does* deliver the latest build (it just still has a bug people had thought had been quashed, and versioning is horribly broken) ?????? bug report, anyone?
14:21:38 <oshani> DIGlogger, pointer?
14:21:39 <oshani> See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-09-22#T14-21-38
14:23:05 <oshani> bad versioning is not a critical bug :)
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14:34:18 <presbrey> a bug with /tab/latest ?
14:34:44 <presbrey> or tabulator versioning. ok
14:35:41 <presbrey> sorry its hard for me to follow there for some reason
14:35:43 <presbrey> ...
14:35:51 <presbrey> maybe latest is a bad name... 'snapshot' would be better?
14:36:00 <presbrey> latest was meant to mean latest build
14:36:13 <presbrey> maybe thats confused with latest release
14:38:58 <oshani> well, latest could also mean the latest code :)
14:39:24 <oshani> but yeah, I guess 'snapshot' would've been a bit better
14:39:49 <presbrey> lets alias snapshot to latest and let latest die out over time
14:40:01 <oshani> sounds like a plan
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14:42:13 <presbrey> gah, regretful chumping
14:42:18 <presbrey> ok so thats in
14:45:19 <oshani> thanks presbrey 
14:46:04 <presbrey> want to link it from the tab/index?
14:46:09 <presbrey> with a disclaimer :P
14:46:56 <oshani> okay, I'll do it :)
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17:34:01 <mcherian> lkagal, i am on zakim now
17:35:14 <presbrey> ericP, we really need to finish that autoconf / automake stuff
17:36:22 <oshani> presbrey, updated http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/
17:36:57 <presbrey> oops
17:36:57 <presbrey> thats not supposed to show the source
17:36:57 <presbrey> ha
17:37:53 <presbrey> ah oshani 
17:38:04 <presbrey> so if you check the source there... http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot
17:38:20 <presbrey> about halfway down I am already doing the work to find the exact changeset tag
17:38:26 <presbrey> # lookup revision
17:38:28 <oshani> whoops
17:38:30 <presbrey> ...
17:39:01 <presbrey> so its not likely much work is needed to get value (r) into install.rdf
17:40:30 <presbrey> (and I think that's the last remaining issue with the release snapshots)
17:40:41 <presbrey> we ought to get it in there for bug reporting at least
17:41:16 <oshani> presbrey, are you gonna fix the .htaccess for the snapshot script?
17:41:20 <presbrey> yes
17:41:23 <oshani> ok
17:41:30 <presbrey> its in already, next update on dig.csail should take it
17:41:36 <oshani> ok, thanks
17:42:24 <presbrey> works now
17:42:36 <presbrey> run it: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot
17:42:37 <presbrey> source: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot
17:42:38 <oshani> I am not sure how to put in the rev into install.rdf when you create the xpi.. pass as a parameter?
17:42:40 <presbrey> source: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot.py
17:42:50 <presbrey> so...
17:42:51 <oshani> yep works
17:43:05 <presbrey> in the source you can see a hg clone checkout is step 1
17:43:15 <presbrey> we need a install.rdf.snapshot template file
17:43:24 <presbrey> where we have @@REV@@ or whatever special tag
17:43:44 <presbrey> sed/awk/replace it after checkout + before zip
17:44:25 <oshani> maybe we can have the hg version as the @@REV@@
17:44:30 <oshani> makes more sense that way
17:44:31 <presbrey> since its RDF, we could use an actual RDF tool to do it, but its not likely dig.csail/groups.csail has any good SPARUL libraries
17:45:25 <presbrey> do you know what data types are valid in <em:version>0.8.7</em:version> ???
17:46:01 <presbrey> mercurial has those hash revisions sorta like git
17:46:04 <presbrey> 1234:badf00d
17:46:21 <presbrey> if we can't stash it in <em:version>0.8.7</em:version>
17:46:30 <presbrey> only thing left I see would be <em:name>The Tabulator Extension</em:name>
17:46:48 <presbrey> so something like <em:name>Tabulator (revision 1234:badf00d)</em:name>
17:47:35 <presbrey> in a install.rdf.snapshot should look like <em:name>Tabulator (revision @@REV@@)</em:name>
17:47:46 <presbrey> or <em:version>@@REV@@</em:version>
17:48:32 <presbrey> if you find out which we can do, I can help implement
17:48:57 <oshani> presbrey, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extension_Versioning,_Update_and_Compatibility, any string is ok for <em:version>
17:49:19 <oshani> so, the mercurial hash revisions can go in there
17:49:32 <presbrey> cool
17:49:55 <presbrey> do we want to change the name for snapshots
17:50:10 <presbrey> The Tabulator Extension (snapshot)
17:50:21 <oshani> yeah, I think that's good
17:50:31 <presbrey> seeing the mercurial version could be obvious enough
17:50:41 <presbrey> but yeah lets make it explicit
17:50:56 <oshani> agreed
17:53:24 <presbrey> tabulator]$ hg push
17:53:24 <presbrey> pushing to http://dig.csail.mit.edu/hg/tabulator
17:53:24 <presbrey> searching for changes
17:53:24 <presbrey> abort: push creates new remote heads!
17:53:27 <presbrey> ...what am I missing here?
17:53:58 <oshani> what branch are you on?
17:54:27 <presbrey> we're back on default branch, right?
17:54:42 <oshani> yeah
17:54:53 <presbrey> I'm not sure, I'll just clone another
17:54:58 <oshani> okay
18:03:09 <presbrey> are you sure how this counter works?
18:03:21 <presbrey> 1056:25bb5cd46632 seems the current changeset
18:04:06 <oshani> um, not really. Does it count up in hex?
18:05:46 <presbrey> I'm wondering if the hash is a simple checksum
18:06:00 <presbrey> and if 1056 is what I want to include or the whole string
18:06:09 <presbrey> I guess the whole thing is fine
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18:37:57 <presbrey> ericP, trying to build lua bindings to swobjecst
18:38:09 <presbrey> lua]# make
18:38:10 <presbrey> swig -lua -module swobjects -I../../ -I../../lib/ -I../../interface/ -o swobjects_wrap.c ../SWObjects.i
18:38:10 <presbrey> ../SWObjects.i:72: Warning 301: class keyword used, but not in C++ mode.
18:38:10 <presbrey> ../SWObjects.i:72: Error: Syntax error in input(1).
18:38:10 <presbrey> make: *** [swobjects_wrap.c] Error 1
18:38:18 <presbrey> how did you make the java/python bindings?
18:45:20 <Pipian> lkagal, are you around?
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19:29:00 <Pipian> timbl, are you busy?  I'd like to talk to you about what we should discuss/have the students do in the Lab tomorrow.
19:30:16 <timbl> I'm on the phone right now.
19:30:27 <timbl> But after that
19:32:27 <Pipian> Alright, please let me know.
19:37:30 <timbl> Ok
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20:57:56 <oshani> timbl or amy, where can I find a non png version of the lod cloud diagram?
20:58:38 <oshani> got it - http://richard.cyganiak.de/2007/10/lod/
21:01:57 <amy> hi oshani
21:01:58 <amy> ok
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21:20:43 <melvster> oshani: you know there's a new diagram?
21:23:09 <presbrey> melvster, http://richard.cyganiak.de/2007/10/lod/ is the new one
21:23:19 <melvster> oic, sorry
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