IRC log of dig on 2010-09-25

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00:01:54 [timbl]

presbrey, see js/rdf/create-lib

00:02:52 [timbl]

copies the *.js into rdflb.js

00:07:16 [presbrey]

ok so why is rdflib.js committed?

00:07:32 [presbrey]

sounds like it needs to get created just before release

00:11:14 [timbl]

The tabulator uses rdflib.js instead of the individual files

00:12:27 [timbl]

If I issue a cert for tabulator.org -- presumably I have to own the domain ...

00:14:38 [melvster]

i can give an auth code to transfer it, if necessray

00:14:57 [timbl]

That would be good

00:15:05 [melvster]

(already sent one to joe)

00:15:08 [melvster]

let me forward it ...

00:15:08 [timbl]

(which tz you on, melvster?)

00:15:33 [melvster]

tz? im using www.domainmonster.com ..

00:15:40 [timbl]

timezone

00:16:17 [melvster]

oh

00:16:21 [melvster]

im CET

00:16:26 [melvster]

europe ... about to get to bed :)

00:16:38 [melvster]

sent an auth code .. let me know if there's any issues, i can easily generate a new one

00:16:45 [melvster]

or i can ask the tech guys if we need anything

00:18:19 [timbl]

So how do I use the authcode?

00:18:44 [melvster]

hmmm good question ... let me read the blurb ...

00:20:32 [timbl]

I got it I think

00:20:45 [timbl]

No -- it is locked

00:20:52 [timbl]

tabulator.org

00:20:53 [timbl]

Domain locked by your current registrar.

00:20:58 [melvster]

oic

00:21:02 [melvster]

let me unlockit

00:22:03 [melvster]

ok ... 'Locking Removed for tabulator.org.'

00:24:18 [timbl]

The domain owner is Andrew Cruise

00:24:34 [timbl]

+44.7788136666

00:25:13 [timbl]

andrewcruise@dodgeit.com

00:25:15 [melvster]

ah right ... that's a friend of mine ... I use that for the name ...

00:25:25 [melvster]

and that's my mobile number

00:25:49 [timbl]

Gandi wants complete name and address infor for andrew cruise

00:26:24 [melvster]

hmmmm

00:26:30 [melvster]

maybe i can change that record?

00:26:41 [timbl]

can we change the owner too -- I don't know

00:27:34 [melvster]

i think so

00:28:31 [timbl]

It just needed a zipcode for andrew

00:28:40 [timbl]

I put in one in sw london

00:29:20 [melvster]

that's fine

00:29:40 [melvster]

SW19 4AD is actually the correct one

00:29:54 [melvster]

but should we transfer the domain to you?

00:29:57 [melvster]

ive unlocked it

00:30:12 [melvster]

with that access code, I think you can transfer it over to your registrar?

00:32:13 [timbl]

I have transferred it. Cost €9 whcih was too small for paypal

00:33:09 [timbl]

had to use a c card -- seems backwards

00:33:28 [timbl]

So Ok, thanks I am contact for the domain, just not owner

00:33:34 [presbrey]

can you add mx records

00:33:55 [presbrey]

set the wildcard subdomain too

00:34:58 [presbrey]

if you lost the dns, use 18.181.1.220 for everything for now

00:35:03 [timbl]

But now not obvous how to access the domain as it inst in the list of things I own

00:35:27 [timbl]

Oh ... order status "in progress"

00:35:33 [melvster]

oh right

00:36:03 [timbl]

Maybe there is human intervention required by Gandi

00:36:40 [presbrey]

timbl, did you think about breaking down the 2007 wiki

00:36:55 [presbrey]

its algae backend is bitrot

00:37:02 [presbrey]

is/has bitrot

00:37:16 [timbl]

Could we switch it to the new wiki?

00:37:26 [presbrey]

move the data, 30x to the new

00:37:55 [timbl]

We have pointers into the old wiki

00:38:00 [timbl]

I wonder how many

00:38:19 [presbrey]

we want to fix for tobyink's report earlier this week

00:38:30 [timbl]

(pointer?)

00:38:37 [presbrey]

he wants to use tabulator with other, more compliant, backends

00:38:55 [presbrey]

backends which require you to say 'data' after insert when there is no where clause

00:39:37 [timbl]

"more compliant" ?

00:39:43 [timbl]

to what

00:40:22 [timbl]

INSERT DATA is what the document is being edited to?

00:40:31 [timbl]

WTF else would one insert?

00:41:07 [presbrey]

email is 2010/09/22 14.19.50z

00:41:14 [timbl]

Happy to be properly comp;liant

00:41:17 [presbrey]

to tabulator-at-csail.mit.edu

00:41:27 [presbrey]

compatible may be a better word

00:43:21 [timbl]

Got it

00:43:33 [timbl]

message:%3C20100922151950.702a4194@miranda.g5n.co.uk%3E

00:43:41 [timbl]

for a mac

00:43:45 [presbrey]

doesn't work for me

00:43:53 [presbrey]

I'm on a mac

00:44:06 [timbl]

yopu have to have the message in mac mail

00:44:25 [timbl]

it indexes by messageif

00:44:29 [timbl]

messageid

00:44:35 [timbl]

anyway.

00:44:45 [presbrey]

I don't use mac mail

00:44:54 [presbrey]

and I have too many settings, imap filters, etc. in thunderbird

00:44:58 [timbl]

So sounds like we should upgrade the old wiki to the new code?

00:45:08 [mcherian]

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00:45:18 [presbrey]

we can have two instances

00:45:21 [presbrey]

could*

00:46:15 [presbrey]

I can't recall the status of getting dig.csail to run the wiki

00:46:35 [presbrey]

dig.xvm will run both wiki spaces just fine

00:46:44 [timbl]

with proxy

00:46:52 [timbl]

but proxy is a pain

00:46:55 [timbl]

speedwise

00:47:00 [presbrey]

then we're redirecting

00:47:08 [presbrey]

also we moved out of date space for the latest wiki

00:47:16 [presbrey]

so /2007/wiki => /wiki

00:47:54 [timbl]

on tabulator.org, yes

00:48:13 [timbl]

We can't really google for all the pointers into the old wiki

00:48:32 [timbl]

I suppose another possibility is to freez e it

00:48:44 [timbl]

Move pages we are still actually writing to

00:48:47 [presbrey]

freezing is fine by me

00:48:53 [timbl]

and leve the rest as historical

00:49:28 [timbl]

the main things we edit there are (for me anyway) the page about the tabulator project and the Joe Lambda test person

00:52:12 [presbrey]

only 3 things edited this month

00:52:18 [presbrey]

tabulator, projects.rdf, and sandbox

00:52:35 [timbl]

Not Joe Lambda?

00:52:52 [presbrey]

I'm not counting sandbox files individually

00:52:54 [presbrey]

its a sandbox

00:53:13 [presbrey]

5 in sandbox: joelambda, works, webr3, yod, mads

00:53:22 [timbl]

http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/people/JoeLambda#JL

00:53:42 [presbrey]

oh joelambda is in people, not sandbox

00:54:15 [presbrey]

and works in is docs

00:54:16 [timbl]

Well anyway, I think we can move the data.

00:54:37 [timbl]

hmmm docs/works?

00:54:42 [presbrey]

yep

00:55:12 [timbl]

Aaaaaaa ... that is all HaoQi's stuff

00:55:29 [timbl]

Public lists

00:55:34 [timbl]

of journals, etc

00:55:44 [timbl]

documents, works, and journals etc

00:56:05 [timbl]

We can move that tooo .. it is probably hard-code into her code

00:56:23 [timbl]

for testing

00:57:56 [timbl]

yes var collections_URI = 'http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/docs/collections';

00:58:20 [presbrey]

why do we want to disable the old wiki?

00:58:35 [presbrey]

there is a nice page describing how to use it with curl

00:58:42 [presbrey]

its just tabulator that won't be able to edit it

00:58:55 [timbl]

Isee.

00:59:13 [timbl]

and any other clients which don'y addd "DATA"

00:59:14 [presbrey]

tabulator is sending 'INSERT DATA' unless there is a WHERE clause (due to bnodes/IFP?)

00:59:18 [timbl]

I wonder what the logic was

00:59:32 [presbrey]

s/is sending/should be sending/

00:59:33 [melvster]

49 million ...

00:59:40 [melvster]

this one's about to blow! :)

00:59:44 [timbl]

If there is a WHER claus then no DATA keyword?

01:00:09 [presbrey]

if that's really the rule, then it seems an engine should simply look and see if there is a WHERE or not

01:00:18 [presbrey]

why add DATA if there is no WHERE

01:00:21 [presbrey]

I'm not sure

01:00:50 [melvster]

oops sorry ... wrong window

01:00:59 [presbrey]

ha

01:01:10 [timbl]

:)

01:01:19 [timbl]

We will be left to imagine :-)

01:02:49 [melvster]

:)

01:03:50 [melvster]

sorry bout that ... need to get some zzzzz ... chat soon! :)

01:07:33 [timbl]

night night

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01:19:17 [webr3]

fyi, been drafting up yet-another-json-rdf http://webr3.org/apps/specs/json-rdf/ if anybody has feedback it'd be gratefuly recieved

01:21:52 [presbrey]

webr3: seems cleaner when objects are always in a list

01:22:45 [presbrey]

foreach (o_list in store.each(s, p, null)) { foreach (o in o_list) {} }

01:23:50 [webr3]

presbrey, good point

01:24:10 [presbrey]

otherwise I have to check if o_list really is a list every time

01:25:08 [presbrey]

I like how you've brought @base and @prefix back into json serialization though

01:25:33 [webr3]

I'm still tied over what's best.. will show you something, 2 secs

01:25:49 [presbrey]

@base/@prefix is consistent with the conciseness intended by json vs. xml

01:25:56 [presbrey]

err, ntriples, not xml

01:26:43 [webr3]

yeah agreed

01:27:00 [webr3]

I'm working on the RDFa API, and have pretty much made it a generic RDF api now

01:27:10 [presbrey]

RDFa API?

01:27:31 [webr3]

yup will link in a second

01:27:43 [webr3]

point is that the store is a sequence<RDFTriple>

01:27:44 [webr3]

http://pastebin.com/PcR1AXYs

01:28:07 [webr3]

the above is a JSON.stringify of an RDF triple, so it could just be an array of those - would be v v fast

01:28:21 [webr3]

RDFa API: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-api/

01:29:36 [presbrey]

do you have rapper?

01:31:33 [webr3]

yup

01:31:46 [webr3]

or do i, can't remember if it broke recently

01:32:24 [presbrey]

its worth looking at if you are doing json

01:32:27 [presbrey]

echo '<s> <p> 123.456^^xsd:float .' | rapper -i turtle -o json - http://null/

01:32:58 [presbrey]

{ "http://null/s" : {

01:32:58 [presbrey]

"http://null/p" : [ {

01:32:58 [presbrey]

"value" : "123.456",

01:32:59 [presbrey]

"datatype" : "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#decimal",

01:32:59 [presbrey]

"type" : "literal"

01:32:59 [presbrey]

} ]

01:32:59 [presbrey]

} }

01:33:39 [presbrey]

I think it changed to decimal because I didn't declare xsd but alas

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01:39:33 [presbrey]

so the improvements I think you've made are

01:40:01 [presbrey]

keeping the base URI as a @base reference with

01:40:40 [presbrey]

of course gzip will compress this all away but parsers will be faster

01:45:05 [webr3]

what about lists as [[1,2,3]]

01:46:18 [webr3]

lots of feedback coming in from manu as well, have you seen JSON-LD

01:48:07 [presbrey]

weird, is __vocab__ a @base equivalent?

01:48:58 [presbrey]

I'd have the same comment to him about always providing object lists

01:50:37 [webr3]

__vocab__ is like defining only one prefix / a default one for that triple

01:50:57 [webr3]

i think^//

01:51:04 [presbrey]

we can't: foreach (data[s][p] as o) {} with JSON-LD either

01:51:25 [webr3]

why do you want to?

01:52:10 [presbrey]

if you have to use an RDF API, whats the point of calling it JSON?

01:52:30 [presbrey]

I'm thinking of JSON in terms of APIs we already have

01:53:12 [webr3]

presbrey, you've got me thinking with last comment..

01:56:07 [webr3]

remembered!

01:56:33 [webr3]

because you can't easily define graphs or triples within scripts

01:56:50 [webr3]

ideal would be able to just embed turtle/n3 write in the script / document

01:56:58 [webr3]

var a = 'chunk-of-n3'

01:57:31 [presbrey]

ideal is to pre-compute the answer before the user asks the question

01:57:33 [webr3]

but newlines and single-quote being allowed unescaped kinda makes that impossible (wrt N3)

01:59:50 [webr3]

i need to get a ticket to dig/csail, like the way you guys think over there

02:00:21 [presbrey]

ha

02:00:30 [presbrey]

anyway, I didn't like rapper's style until I started implementing

02:01:16 [webr3]

i agree wrt [], makes sense

02:01:20 [presbrey]

its so much easier and cleaner to implement against JSON whose schema is consistent across branches

02:01:38 [presbrey]

otherwise you have to save a pointer to the object and check its type on every leaf descent

02:01:49 [webr3]

manu suggests plain and typed literals as.. "London@en" "123^^xsd:nonNegativeInteger" - any thoughts?

02:02:30 [presbrey]

I would move the type/lang to separate dict keys

02:02:45 [presbrey]

when I implement a literal substitution, I want to use the value unmodified

02:02:52 [presbrey]

not split/strip on @/^^

02:03:03 [presbrey]

create another copy just for display

02:03:09 [presbrey]

it should be ready to use

02:03:13 [webr3]

agree

02:03:15 [presbrey]

a self-standing store

02:03:44 [webr3]

++ <presbrey> a self-standing store <-- makes sense to me - will work on it

02:04:02 [presbrey]

cool, happy to help any time

02:04:24 [webr3]

thanks :D - invaluable feedback

02:04:44 [webr3]

esp coupled w/ manu who's thinking all about the human

02:04:58 [presbrey]

hey I'm a human!

02:05:32 [presbrey]

JSON isn't just for looking, its for using too

02:05:49 [webr3]

aye lol

02:05:54 [webr3]

one final question if you don't mind

02:06:10 [webr3]

flat array or triples, or nested like an index

02:06:14 [webr3]

s/or/of

02:06:43 [presbrey]

nesting? s{p{[o]}} is great

02:06:48 [presbrey]

its self-indexing

02:06:55 [webr3]

my sentiments exactly

02:07:05 [presbrey]

it might be nice to document in the file somehow which format is being used

02:07:18 [presbrey]

just incase someone wants to write a document backwards: o{p{[s]}}

02:07:45 [webr3]

lol - nice idea

02:08:09 [presbrey]

hehe might/maybe

02:08:16 [presbrey]

I'll talk to you again soon or have a good weekend!

02:08:26 [webr3]

other thing is.. graph literals, hard to represent unless you go for a single triple which si an array of s,p,o || w/ named attributes

02:08:53 [webr3]

yup, I need to shoot anyways 3am here - thanks again joe!

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08:41:24 [timbl]

There is a lot to be said as representing a data type string as an arc in fact

08:42:06 [timbl]

By the way the above discussion it would be good to have on #swig

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14:02:54 [webr3]

can anybody tell me what the inverse of rdf:type is? { foaf:Person ??? :me }

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14:47:10 [webr3]

timbl, am I correct in thinking that this: { ?x :parent ?y } => { ?y :child ?x }

14:47:19 [webr3]

is the same as: _:g1 = { ?x :parent ?y }; => { ?y :child ?x } .

14:47:37 [webr3]

trying to figure out if one could get by with graph literals in only the object position

16:04:37 [timbl]

Well, good question

16:04:58 [timbl]

In a sameAs - aware system, they aretrhe same, but basic RDF is not.

16:06:09 [timbl]

It helps, then, to invent a magic psuedo-predicate == say which the parser takes as setting a bnode to something non-blank

16:06:26 [webr3]

fantastic :)

16:06:37 [timbl]

but N3 doe snot have it

16:07:14 [timbl]

In cwm, for serializeing n3 in XML, i used rdf/xml with hte addition of parseType=Quote (IIRC) and adding rdf:is as the magic predicate

16:07:38 [timbl]

So == is not in the spec

16:07:47 [webr3]

was thinking it would be very easy to drop graph literals in to a json representation of rdf..

16:08:00 [timbl]

actually at one point the thing was programmeed to treat = as == if it occired directly after [

16:08:16 [timbl]

But you are inventing a new syntax I assume

16:08:36 [webr3]

just experimenting atm, pending feedback etc

16:08:36 [timbl]

drop graph literals in -- totally

16:08:38 [webr3]

http://pastebin.com/tv7TQuUF

16:08:53 [webr3]

it's verbose, but possible

16:10:04 [timbl]

If a bnode is just an object { p: [0,0,0], p:[o]} then is it easier?

16:11:08 [webr3]

that's pretty much how it is (if i understand you) but to be part of the graph it needs a name

16:13:20 [webr3]

did you have an opinion on typed literals being represented as "1234^^xsd:int" vs {"^^xsd:int": "1234"} (and likewise @lang) ?

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16:32:49 [presbrey]

don't key on the type, eg. {"^^xsd:int": "1234"}

16:33:07 [presbrey]

then you need to search for the value

16:33:36 [presbrey]

better to have "type": "xsd:int", "value": "1234"

16:33:56 [presbrey]

also, same values won't have multiple representations in different types

16:34:22 [presbrey]

if they do, they're different objects and need their own [o] elt

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16:53:30 [webr3]

{ "type": "xsd:int", "value": "1234" } || { "lang": "en", "value": "London" }

16:57:21 [webr3]

unsure how you have to search for the type if you key on the value, you're going to have to find figure out what the type of o is anyways, either by checking for properties which match type,value || lang,value, or where single property char 1 matches '@' or '^' - what's the difference?

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18:31:10 [timbl]

for (ty in x) if (ty.slice(0,1) = "^^") return $rdf.lit(x[ty], ty);

18:31:19 [timbl]

OETTE

18:34:29 [presbrey]

OETTE?

18:36:13 [timbl]

:-/ OWTTE

18:46:56 [timbl]

hmmm

18:48:00 [presbrey]

cool I'm playing at MIT today

18:48:09 [presbrey]

let me know if you want to chunk RDF later

18:48:50 [presbrey]

or finish lua bindings

18:48:57 [presbrey]

timbl: did you get the cert?

18:49:59 [ericP]

presbrey, will do

18:50:16 [ericP]

also, no progress on va_lists in lua

18:50:27 [ericP]

(via sqig)

18:50:28 [ericP]

might be worth a google search

18:50:33 [ericP]

ok. off

18:50:33 [presbrey]

cool

18:51:00 [presbrey]

so my lua-embedded SPARQL server is pretty cool

18:51:07 [presbrey]

I can show you later if you didn't see it this week

18:51:18 [presbrey]

maybe it can help motivate us later

18:51:47 [timbl]

"If an order remains "in progress" for an unreasonable length of time, it is probably because your prepaid account does not have enough credit"

18:51:48 [presbrey]

we definitely want to get the SELECT/CONSTRUCT/ASK responses down the HTTP pipe as well

18:52:04 [presbrey]

data wiki never sends responses, SPARQL updates only :\

19:04:25 [timbl]

Ah.. maybe this:

19:04:27 [timbl]

After you have completed the transfer order, Gandi will send a transfer confirmation e-mail to the e-mail address of the owner of the domain as it is listed in the Whois database. In order for the transfer to occur, it is necessary to reply to the e-mail that you receive in a very special way.

19:04:41 [timbl]

-- http://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/transfer/accept

19:05:12 [presbrey]

cool well I got the MIT cert about 10 minutes ago

19:05:27 [timbl]

I think melvster has to look for a mail from Gandi

19:06:15 [timbl]

melvster?

19:19:04 [melvster]

hi

19:20:09 [melvster]

didnt get a mail form them yet ... but the value in the DNS was disposable ...

19:20:58 [melvster]

let me look

19:23:57 [melvster]

domain is unlocked ... no mail at my primary address ... or the disposable

19:25:50 [mcherian]

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19:26:26 [melvster]

ah i see ... maybe the dodgeit.com is unreliable ... I can set my own address (i previously hid it to avoid spam)

19:27:03 [melvster]

let me do that?

19:34:49 [melvster]

ok ive changed the 'owner' DNS to my primary email, it's not clear i could reply from the other anyway ... Just pined gandi on IRC, but no reply yet ... let me follow up

19:39:45 [melvster]

timbl: have updated the email contact, I've pinged gandi on IRC and mailed them ... will get back to you when I get a response

19:47:01 [melvster]

looks like you can relaunch the request: http://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/transfer/relaunch

20:14:52 [timbl]

Ok

20:15:58 [timbl]

Last time i relaunched it didn't need a enw auth code

20:16:02 [timbl]

this time it does

20:18:35 [melvster]

oh

20:18:38 [melvster]

ok let me get one

20:20:03 [melvster]

timbl: sent

20:33:32 [timbl]

Thanks

20:33:34 [timbl]

"Transfer restart successful"

20:33:39 [timbl]

This time it didn't ask for it

20:33:43 [timbl]

Go figure

20:34:10 [timbl]

See if it sent an email

20:34:47 [melvster]

lol ... not yet ...

20:35:26 [melvster]

nothing in spam folder either

20:37:54 [melvster]

whois showing up correctly now ... http://whois.domaintools.com/tabulator.org

20:44:31 [timbl]

It sedns to an owner email if it has one so I assume

20:45:29 [timbl]

mel...o@gmail.com

20:45:34 [melvster]

that's right

20:45:52 [melvster]

is the mail address i sent you the auth code from

20:48:44 [melvster]

mail!

20:50:55 [melvster]

replied

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20:52:39 [melvster]

bingo!

20:52:44 [melvster]

Your acceptance of transfer for the domain name TABULATOR.ORG has been registered.

20:54:29 [timbl]

cool. the site still says it is "in progress"

20:54:36 [timbl]

maybe in a few

21:07:29 [presbrey]

...this one works:

21:07:29 [presbrey]

~]$ curl -vk https://dig.xvm.mit.edu/wiki/ 2>&1 | grep issuer:

21:07:29 [presbrey]

* issuer: OU=MIT Certification Authority,O=Massachusetts Institute of Technology,ST=Massachusetts,C=US

21:11:15 [timbl]

still in progress

21:11:37 [timbl]

"The .CO is available Over 500,000 .co domains have been registered in less than 2 months, making it a true hit" - gandi ad

21:16:50 [presbrey]

my WebID works there too

21:17:26 [presbrey]

I guess a .co land-grab could be interpreted as a true hit

21:17:46 [presbrey]

maybe breadcrumbs should do distance from any registered blog user

21:18:16 [presbrey]

2-hops from anyone who has posted an article

21:25:25 [timbl]

(Do the list and see who you get -- and decide whether they sound trustworthy?)

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21:45:03 [timbl]

Foiund the reason the input wasn't working - but in a trace ststement

22:00:21 [timbl]

Did you add in the DATA in the INSERT?

22:00:54 [timbl]

(so will Joe Lambda no longer work?)

22:01:24 [timbl]

Joe Lambda seesm to work

22:02:10 [presbrey]

I haven't committed tabulator source

22:02:37 [timbl]

changeset: 1061:25bb5cd46632

22:02:37 [timbl]

tag: tip

22:02:37 [timbl]

parent: 1055:0b07015fcdda

22:02:38 [timbl]

user: presbrey

22:02:38 [timbl]

date: Wed Sep 22 13:55:13 2010 -0400

22:02:38 [timbl]

summary: dumb install.rdf template for snapshot releases

22:02:45 [presbrey]

yeah thats for the snapshot script

22:02:49 [timbl]

That was just a change to install.rdf

22:02:57 [timbl]

?

22:02:58 [presbrey]

there's another install.rdf.snapshot

22:03:03 [timbl]

(what needed to be changed?)

22:03:13 [presbrey]

try

22:03:18 [presbrey]

diff install.rdf install.rdf.snapshot

22:03:27 [presbrey]

I prefer vimdiff, ericP likes ediff

22:03:59 [presbrey]

so theres a @@REV@@

22:04:04 [presbrey]

and name

22:04:15 [timbl]

Nice: <em:version>@@REV@@</em:version>

22:04:16 [presbrey]

gets appended (snapshot)

22:04:34 [presbrey]

http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot (s/latest/snapshot)

22:04:40 [presbrey]

not quite finished

22:04:48 [presbrey]

but @@REV@@ will get substituted

22:04:59 [presbrey]

so you can see what version you snapshotted in your Addons manager

22:05:10 [timbl]

Is it OK for Ffox addons to have rev numbers which are huge integers?

22:05:15 [presbrey]

apparently

22:05:35 [timbl]

that's nice

22:05:43 [timbl]

And the naems are diff so it won't get confused

22:05:55 [presbrey]

<oshani> presbrey, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extension_Versioning,_Update_and_Compatibility, any string is ok for <em:version>

22:05:57 [timbl]

Next we just have to build in hg

22:06:05 [presbrey]

build in hg?

22:06:31 [presbrey]

AFAIK it addons key on GUID so the name is actually irrelevant

22:06:37 [presbrey]

but it will be less confusing for the user

22:06:46 [timbl]

(into the extension so it can update itself .. just kidding)

22:07:30 [presbrey]

ha

22:08:02 [presbrey]

so http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot.py needs to write install.rdf.snapshot over install.rdf

22:08:15 [timbl]

So a snapshot take now shoul dhave the suerinput working agin

22:08:24 [timbl]

even though it is a bit weird

22:08:29 [presbrey]

cool, in time for 6.898 to use it?

22:10:30 [timbl]

Well, they coul dhave used it last week had it worked .. but maybe anotehr ytime

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23:06:09 [melvster]

'Transfer away of tabulator.org from Domainmonster.com successfully pushed through.'

23:15:53 [melvster]

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23:16:06 [melvster]

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23:36:56 [melvster]

from gandi:

23:37:04 [melvster]

'Domain: tabulator.org Result: successfully completed'

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