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03:15:09 <lkagal> webr3 ? 
03:15:46 <lkagal> cwm profile.n3 http://example.org/rules.n3 --think 
03:15:58 <lkagal> would allow you to execute all rules in http://example.org/rules.n3 against profile.n3
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09:00:31 <timbl> Seems to work
09:00:37 <timbl> sorry about the glitch
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09:53:26 <timbl> Oooooopps 
09:53:29 <timbl> Failed to change category:
09:53:30 <timbl> Exception in thread Dummy-4:
09:53:30 <timbl> Traceback (most recent call last):
09:53:30 <timbl>   File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/handler.py", line 172, in application
09:53:31 <timbl>     r = self._application(environ, *argv, **kw)
09:53:31 <timbl>   File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/handler.py", line 133, in _application
09:53:31 <timbl>     graph.append(file(n3_path).read())
09:53:32 <timbl>   File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/swobjects.py", line 20, in append
09:53:32 <timbl>     _T.parse(_SWObjects.IStreamContext(data, _SWObjects.StreamContextIstream.STRING))
09:53:32 <timbl>   File "/srv/dig/lib/python/SWObjects.py", line 4520, in parse
09:53:33 <timbl>     def parse(self, *args): return _SWObjects.TurtleSDriver_parse(self, *args)
09:53:33 <timbl> ValueError: std::exception
09:53:34 <timbl> ---------------------
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10:22:48 <timbl> Ouch ... <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue10> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/created> 2006-07-15T20:42:17 .
10:23:04 <timbl> That isn't N3 -- missing quotes around the datetime
10:23:13 <timbl> and missing datatype
10:33:52 <timbl> There are no datatypes in the whole file
10:34:14 <timbl> So the file needs fixing (those dates should be dates) as well as the serializer
10:34:22 <timbl> in SWOBJECTS.
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13:02:32 <timbl> ericp?
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13:06:04 <timbl> DIGlogger, pointer?
13:06:04 <timbl> See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-09-28#T13-06-04
13:18:43 <ericP> heya timbl, you at the 'tute today?
13:21:20 <timbl> No, giving a talk at the Royal Soc Web Science public thing
13:21:37 <timbl> I have been showing peopl ethe data wiki
13:21:48 <ericP> huh, something tells me that's not nearby
13:21:48 <timbl> but it broke ... did you update the serializer ?
13:22:03 <ericP> i did not. not sure what happened
13:22:12 <timbl> 5 Carlton House Tce, London 
13:22:29 <timbl> I did one update which worked.
13:22:30 <ericP> oh, just across the street. let's get together in person
13:22:41 <timbl> Then the file was corrupt and no otehr updates coul dwork
13:23:00 <ericP> so datetime literals were coming back without quotes?
13:23:48 <timbl> and without datatype URI
13:24:06 <timbl> I wonder whether xsd:dateTime was considered a numeric dtatype by accident
13:24:11 <timbl> and just output raw
13:24:19 <timbl> Strings are OK.
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13:24:59 <timbl> Look at http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue
13:25:06 <timbl> with curl
13:26:13 <timbl> about line 10
13:26:40 <ericP> huh
13:27:03 <ericP> i can try to replicate locally
13:27:54 <ericP> will cost some context switch. what urgency level is there? (factoring in likelihood of being able to update the wiki instance after code is fixed)
13:31:28 <timbl> I can give the talk without doing a demo, no problem
13:31:39 <timbl> Also embarassed that the system is down
13:33:13 <ericP> understood
13:33:20 <timbl> people looking at the bugs for example
13:33:25 <timbl> but don't panic
13:33:34 <ericP> is there a way to edit the data?
13:33:50 <ericP> 'cause you're right; i bet it's some instance data that came in as xsd:int
13:34:18 <ericP> (given that it's moved a lot of dates before)
13:35:41 <ericP> i could add xml schema validation (at the atom level) during serialization, but i guess it should throw an exception then anyways, which wouldn't solve your prob
13:35:57 <ericP> (well, it would trade it for another)
13:36:06 <timbl> edit the data yes
13:36:27 <ericP> doyou know where it is? (i don't)
13:36:42 <timbl> on tabulator.org
13:36:46 <timbl> ummm
13:48:34 <timbl> I have edited it before
13:49:51 <timbl> The code is under /src
13:53:28 <presbrey> hi 
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13:53:57 <timbl> Hi joe
13:54:20 <presbrey> so ericP I'm happy to update the wiki instance swobjects library
13:54:29 <timbl> got this werid problem that the literal syntax for dates in the state file is messed up
13:54:53 <timbl> found 
13:54:56 <timbl> .. /srv/dig/www/wiki/tabulator
13:55:09 <presbrey> yeah
13:55:26 <presbrey> 10am here, just woke up and read all the emails
13:56:12 <timbl> Sorry so early -- i have 5 hours start on you
13:56:23 <presbrey> [root@dig ~]# grep 'Z' /srv/dig/www/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue.n3 
13:56:24 <presbrey> <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue226> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-08-26T17:27:02Z .
13:56:24 <presbrey> <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue11> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-08-30T21:06:42Z .
13:56:24 <presbrey> <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue13> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-09-01T02:46:30Z .
13:56:33 <presbrey> and it goes on...
13:56:49 <presbrey> I'll get a gandi nick today
13:57:06 <timbl> So how did it lose the quotes I wonder
13:57:20 <timbl> remind me where the log is
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14:00:07 <timbl> should not be difficult to fix the data
14:00:28 <presbrey> /var/log/httpd/error_log-20100926 has all the sparql
14:01:21 <ericP> is there some evidence trail that helps us figure out what initially asserted that those could be serialized like numerics?
14:01:33 <presbrey> fix? sed -e 's/d>(.+)Z/d>"\1Z"/
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14:02:19 <presbrey> INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1285107654725> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-24T20:15:48Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> .
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14:04:39 <ericP> SPARQL -e 'INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1285107654725> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-24T20:15:48Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> }'
14:04:43 <ericP> { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1285107654725> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-24T20:15:48Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime>  .
14:04:46 <ericP> }
14:05:01 <ericP> looks like it should behave
14:05:27 <ericP> (SPARQL's output is using the same serializer, but perhaps called slightly differently)
14:11:08 <presbrey> purl:created has the same errors
14:11:24 <presbrey> some have no Z
14:11:42 <presbrey> what if you insert other variants with SPARQL -e
14:11:45 <presbrey> eg without quotes
14:11:50 <presbrey> eg without datatype
14:12:14 <presbrey> I doubt anyone has been editing issue.n3 without SWObjects
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22:21:16 <oshani> anybody has experience with Talis' metamorph?
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