IRC log of dig on 2010-09-29
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- timbl: ping?
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- 06:55:51 [melvster]
- hi!
- 06:56:44 [melvster]
- timbl: are you familiar with Mark Shuttleworth (Ubuntu and Thawte founder) ... I got a mail from him yesterday saying he's interested to hear more about WebID?
- 07:13:17 [kennyluck]
- melvster: Wow, excellent.
- 07:13:25 [melvster]
- :)
- 07:13:50 [melvster]
- and launchpad has a first class implementation of GPG PKI already
- 07:14:00 [melvster]
- you can upload your ssh keys too
- 07:14:11 [melvster]
- would be amazing if we could get ubuntu to support WebID
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- 07:17:47 [melvster]
- ah
- 07:19:13 [melvster]
- timbl: ping?
- 07:20:27 [melvster]
- hmmm maybe not ...
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- melvster - sounds exciting - ubuntu supporting webid
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- 09:12:12 [timbl]
- ericp, re s there some evidence trail that helps us figure out what initially asserted that those could be serialized like numerics?
- 09:12:29 [timbl]
- i have thought at times that it would be a good thing to add to N3
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- 11:24:22 [timbl]
- http://journal.webscience.org/317/2/websci10_submission_89.pdf
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- timbl: mark said he's going to get one of his people to take a closer look at WebID
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- ericp?
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- 14:07:08 [presbrey]
- huh well thats cool
- 14:08:21 [presbrey]
- wellesley is into webscience
- 14:10:03 [presbrey]
- so say you are writing new triples over http
- 14:10:22 [presbrey]
- can you send ACL triples in the same graph?
- 14:10:32 [presbrey]
- can you send ACL headers in the http request?
- 14:10:55 [presbrey]
- can you send ACL data in advance?
- 14:11:19 [presbrey]
- you certainly wouldn't want to send it after the PUT/POST
- 14:12:30 [presbrey]
- s/same graph/different graph in the same request/
- 14:13:34 [presbrey]
- ...
- 14:14:40 [presbrey]
- one common FS mode is: 1) create a new empty graph. 2) ACL it. 3) then write sensitive data
- 14:16:28 [presbrey]
- seems like thats too much envelope for just 1/few triples, it would be nice to do it all in 1 trip in http
- 14:24:38 [ericP]
- timbl, ericP, (wait, i'm ericP), presbrey, do y'all have a way to replicate the error we saw yesterday?
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- 14:26:25 [timbl]
- yes, just change the state of anything
- 14:28:08 [timbl]
- oooops I left the thing write protected?
- 14:28:14 [timbl]
- funny i left it 777
- 14:28:33 [timbl]
- File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/swobjects.py", line 36, in write
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- file(path, 'w').write(self.toMediaType(media_type))
- 14:28:34 [timbl]
- IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/srv/dig/www/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state.n3'
- 14:28:38 [timbl]
- ^ error from server
- 14:35:12 [timbl]
- broken again
- 14:35:14 [timbl]
- <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1281480106035> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-09-29T14:30:33Z .
- 14:35:22 [timbl]
- That is the only line like that in the file
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- .
- 14:35:46 [timbl]
- Because I didn't put datattypes onto the triples when I fixed them.
- 14:35:55 [timbl]
- SO the issue sems tobe when the data type is given
- 14:36:06 [timbl]
- Only that triple
- 14:37:35 [presbrey]
- [uri=http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state] DELETE { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1281480106035> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-02T16:01:02Z" .
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- }
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- INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1281480106035> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-29T14:30:33Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> .
- 14:37:36 [presbrey]
- <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1281480106035> <http://www.w3.org/2005/01/wf/flow#modifiedBy> <http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i> .
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- }
- 14:37:43 [presbrey]
- seems to be the culprit
- 14:38:45 [ericP]
- that's going through a python iface
- 14:39:31 [ericP]
- presbrey, can you find out if the database has a triple with a datetime-y-looking xsd:int object?
- 14:43:35 [mcherian]
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- 14:47:32 [presbrey]
- the database? the n3. no xsd:instance
- 14:52:12 [presbrey]
- xsd:int rather.
- 14:52:26 [presbrey]
- looks just 2 triples appended at the bottom
- 14:52:36 [ericP]
- hmm, i'm having a hard time reproducing this
- 14:53:31 [presbrey]
- the subversion plugin would be awesome here eh?
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- 15:06:18 [timbl]
- You think it was sent as an int, ericp? why an int?
- 15:06:45 [ericP]
- 'cause int's are serialize-able without ""^^xsd:datatype
- 15:07:28 [timbl]
- but you see above it was sent with dateTime: <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1281480106035> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-09-29T14:30:33Z .
- 15:08:38 [timbl]
- and that cased the file to be serialized without the quotes
- 15:10:23 [timbl]
- What is funny of course is that we've had datetimes in for ages, not clear why something changed
- 15:10:41 [ericP]
- yeah, i haven't touched that code for even more ages
- 15:12:35 [timbl]
- Can you run a serializer test?
- 15:19:42 [ericP]
- i'm playing with it now
- 15:33:44 [presbrey]
- I'm playing too
- 15:35:26 [ericP]
- i think i've replicated
- 15:38:00 [ericP]
- hmm, perhaps not
- 15:38:12 [ericP]
- presbrey, how are you invoking the serializer?
- 15:40:23 [presbrey]
- graph.sparql(data).write(abs_path)
- 15:41:42 [presbrey]
- http://dig.xvm.mit.edu/2010/wiki/swobjects.py
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- 15:56:29 [presbrey]
- ericP, are you changing API?
- 15:56:35 [presbrey]
- NotImplementedError: Wrong number of arguments for overloaded function 'new_IStreamContext'.
- 15:59:06 [presbrey]
- nvm
- 15:59:46 [presbrey]
- ok I can reproduce it
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- aha, toMediaType
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- 17:59:15 [ericP]
- presbrey, you want to copy in a new _SWObjects?
- 18:00:07 [ericP]
- btw, make lua-test will fail as i haven't scripted the required regex replace
- 18:03:17 [presbrey]
- I can wait for lua
- 18:03:26 [presbrey]
- oh, the date fix
- 18:03:27 [presbrey]
- ?
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- 18:04:20 [ericP]
- date fix, yup
- 18:04:41 [ericP]
- you want to try a hand at the lua replace script?
- 18:05:40 [presbrey]
- no
- 18:05:47 [presbrey]
- is the lua module static? can I just leave it
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- 18:43:53 [ericP]
- presbrey, i haven't touched the lua module
- 18:45:04 [ericP]
- you could probably $(make -W swig/lua/SWObjects_wrap.cxx lua-test) to get the patches
- 18:49:03 [presbrey]
- cool so I'm not able to reproduce it anymore
- 19:04:12 [ericP]
- well, you can always patch the erros by hand
- 19:04:34 [ericP]
- but scripting it would be nice
- 19:04:39 [ericP]
- (almost as nice as fixing swig)
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- 20:21:05 [SimpsonTP]
- hi all
- 20:23:08 [SimpsonTP]
- how is ther progres on the tabulator refactor ?
- 20:23:55 [SimpsonTP]
- :)
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