IRC log of dig on 2010-10-28

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topic is: Decentralized Information Group @ MIT http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
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Users on #dig: DIGlogger jnpato_ kennyluck RalphS amy jnpato tlr mhausenblas melvster timbl rho Pipian webr3 gbot30 ericP sandro nunnun_away Yudai ernestchiang_
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Is AIR's vocabulary for proofs part of the discussion of the Provenance XG?
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13:21:39 [lkagal]
Kenny, no it isn't. Proof Markup Language was discussed.
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hi tabulator developers
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I'm going to push a commit to the snapshot install manifest
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a) the homepage URL is wrong: http://www.w3.org/2007/tab/ is 404
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b) adding an update URL: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/update that will return RDF telling my browser if there is a newer version to which to update
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I'm going to put the update URL now, but probably won't do the update script until after finishing rdf.me
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so ping me if you want to take the update RDF generator from me, docs are at: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/extension_versioning,_update_and_compatibility
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17:28:28 [presbrey]
fix is in! ([b] only affects snapshot installs from http://tabulator.org/snapshot)
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17:28:59 [presbrey]
the parameters I used are found here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Install_Manifests#updateURL
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oops
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Mozilla requires extensions to provide "secure" update URLs
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so I'll change the updateURL to https://tabulator.org/update (https://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/ is 403?)
18:00:44 [presbrey]
works! cool. It even used my WebID
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this browser is pretty awesome
18:07:16 [timbl]
The requested URL /update was not found on this server.
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You making autoupdate of the add-on?
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hi timbl
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todays commits are primarily about http://tabulator.org/snapshot
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the /snapshot produces a latest checkout release of the extension
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the Firefox addon manager supports an updateURL argument in our extension's install.rdf
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which it will use when performing the 'Find Updates' action in your addon manager
18:09:53 [timbl]
"so ping me if you want to take the update RDF generator from me, docs are at: " means you have assigned yourself the task of making a script to generate the RDF files to defined new versions
18:10:17 [presbrey]
basically
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this feature is really important to me
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(so I can stop re-visiting http://tabulator.org/snapshot every week)
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but I'm also trying to finish rdf.me in free cycles and figured other people might also find this feature fun
18:11:24 [timbl]
That means anyone who get s the snapshot will track the snapshot.
18:11:39 [presbrey]
track: yes, they are made aware of newer snapshots
18:11:59 [timbl]
can they put ffoix in amode where for this add-ocn it automatically updates?
18:12:00 [presbrey]
you don't have to take the update, firefox has other options, eg. perm-ignore
18:12:17 [presbrey]
I've noticed firefox checks for updates automatically in a few cases:
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I prefer perm-update
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a) browser upgrade
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b) on-start periodically
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I think perm-update would be good for me too
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default interval is 86400
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1 day
18:14:55 [presbrey]
two keys I see interesting in about:config:
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app.update.auto
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app.update.autoInstallEnabled
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sounds like it might affect all apps installed
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both default to 'false'
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but you might like to set those, Tim
18:16:13 [presbrey]
of course you will also need a new /snapshot to start getting updates
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...
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tracking a few things at once here...
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as I implement Web ACL: http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/acl at rdf.me,
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18:18:13 [mhausenblas]
timbl, FYI in case you haven't seen it yet: http://enable-cors.org/ ... a good step into the right direction - thanks to webr3!
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I'm thinking about which WACL rules => which CORS headers
18:18:40 [mhausenblas]
there you go ;)
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webr3, I'd be interested in your thoughts here
18:19:35 [presbrey]
oh ha! domain of the hour! thx mhausenblas as well :)
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so all kudos should go to webr3!
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18:26:18 [lkagal]
Pipian, can I add the linked rules section back ?
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ankesh, http://data.semanticweb.org/snorql/?describe=http%3A%2F%2Fdata.semanticweb.org%2Fperson%2Fdiana-maynard
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lkagal: Have changed the first Carol example back to Alice, and added a paragraph in the short Linked Rules discussion of said example to elaborate on how we've extended the "external rule"
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19:37:48 [lkagal]
ankesh, the example has been fixed as discussed
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Thanks Pipian
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okay.
19:42:18 [webr3]
presbrey, good question re which ACL rules = which headers, there are multiple issues - GET/POST = Access-Control-Allow-Origin, but we also need to Access-Control-Expose-Headers: Link (and others..? MS-Author-Via etc) as for PUT and DELETE those need full CORS - could probably write up a map and drop it in the esw wiki page later if you want
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ps: mhausenblas, too kind - kudos all round, was Tim who championed months back & you've nudged a lot of people to make things happen
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21:56:18 [lkagal]
Pipian,could you take a look at bob-policy ? The inference generated by carol is { ca:S req:trustvalue 100} instead of the binding of ca:S
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