IRC log of dig on 2010-11-29
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- 03:26:51 [ericP]
- timbl, i played with http://www.w3.org/2010/11/rwld/ but am having a hard time persuading nowOrWhenFetched to fetch
- 03:51:24 [timbl]
- Oh
- 03:51:48 [timbl]
- It will only fetch if it has not a note that it has already fetched it.
- 03:53:29 [ericP]
- how would i persuade it to forget that it has already fetched it?
- 03:53:35 [timbl]
- hence the unload()
- 03:53:38 [timbl]
- before it
- 03:53:39 [timbl]
- $test.fetcher.unload(kb.sym($test.target)); // Clear local copy if any
- 03:53:39 [timbl]
- $test.fetcher.nowOrWhenFetched($test.target, undefined, function(){
- 03:53:40 [timbl]
- $test.reportContents($test.target);
- 03:53:40 [timbl]
- $test.report($test.checkEditable());
- 03:54:22 [ericP]
- i stuck an alert inside nowOrWhenFetched and am not feeling particularly alerted
- 03:54:35 [timbl]
- Otherwise it assumes that its copy is in sync with the remote one, which of course it is if the sparql update works and reports no errors if an only iff it has done the change
- 03:54:39 [ericP]
- (i noticed that i wasn't getting any log in the server)
- 03:54:55 [timbl]
- no call to now or when fetched or no callback()
- 03:55:19 [timbl]
- Weird.
- 03:55:28 [timbl]
- If you refresh the page doe sit work the firs time?
- 03:55:41 [ericP]
- umm, not sure what the lambda syntax for javascript is, but no alert before reportContents
- 03:55:42 [timbl]
- (is the server on the public net?)
- 03:56:37 [ericP]
- i might be able to puch a hole, but no
- 03:56:42 [timbl]
- For example, I get when I press the button
- 03:56:43 [timbl]
- Reading from http://localhost:8073/small.trig
- 03:56:43 [timbl]
- <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#a> <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#p> <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#c> .
- 03:56:43 [timbl]
- <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#a> <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#q> "Hello World" .
- 03:56:43 [timbl]
- OK: <http://localhost:8073/small.trig> is editable.
- 03:57:03 [timbl]
- That means it has done a GET or it wouldn't know all that
- 03:57:18 [timbl]
- You running under ffox?
- 03:57:26 [ericP]
- yeah, i think if i restart ffox, i'll see a GET
- 03:57:28 [ericP]
- yep
- 03:57:49 [timbl]
- when you hit th ebutton
- 03:58:09 [timbl]
- What did it say was in the document?And if ou do dit a second time, what happens.
- 03:58:46 [oshani]
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- 03:59:41 [ericP]
- sadly, i can't remember what it said
- 04:01:40 [ericP]
- btw, in case you think the sparql exe may be out of sync, created: /Users/ericp/checkouts/sparql11/Sparql.dmg
- 04:02:03 [ericP]
- (not uploaded to sourceforge, though -- that's beastly slow)
- 04:03:53 [timbl]
- Thanks
- 04:04:02 [timbl]
- Ok, you're not running it now
- 04:04:02 [ericP]
- mostly i just re-allowed the top index page (screwed up when i make the loaded files relative by stripping off the first '/' in the GET path)
- 04:04:20 [ericP]
- not on your machine, no
- 04:04:49 [ericP]
- i wish there would be more weekend; i'd like to hack on this tomorrow
- 04:07:32 [ericP]
- while searching for the issue, i made the HTML valid xhtml (in Overview.html and rwld-test.js:$test.loaded)
- 04:07:37 [ericP]
- i can commit that if you'd like
- 04:08:15 [ericP]
- (i hear there's some guy who copyrighted invalid html and i don't want to pay him a penny)
- 04:09:01 [ericP]
- oh, and i had another cool idea about the http server:
- 04:09:48 [ericP]
- it had a rinkydink http server now, and it'd be stupid to write more of one, so instead i should just make the sparql executable an apache module as well
- 04:10:01 [timbl]
- valid xml - yes good idea
- 04:10:08 [ericP]
- ok, committing
- 04:10:51 [timbl]
- apache module - yes, sounds good
- 04:11:10 [timbl]
- lets get it working though
- 04:12:38 [timbl]
- Yiou I see the logs but IU never saw any change
- 04:12:45 [timbl]
- in the bits
- 04:15:11 [timbl]
- When I am sshd tyo that home machine ASCII BELs come out as beep on the TV
- 04:15:13 [ericP]
- can you interrogate with a regular GET?
- 04:15:31 [ericP]
- nice
- 04:15:37 [timbl]
- What was irregular wit the GET ?
- 04:16:16 [ericP]
- iirc, your tool does things like GET /small.trig?query="..."
- 04:16:34 [ericP]
- i was thinking you could use curl to GET /small.trig
- 04:17:06 [timbl]
- ?query= no
- 04:17:29 [timbl]
- Just teh URI passed to it
- 04:17:44 [timbl]
- I have your new one running - -should i use verbose ? -v ?
- 04:17:47 [ericP]
- ahh, maybe that was my client
- 04:17:51 [ericP]
- yeah, try it
- 04:17:55 [ericP]
- --debug 1
- 04:18:08 [ericP]
- i can't recall what -v does
- 04:18:14 [ericP]
- (if anything)
- 04:19:52 [timbl]
- Exits after printing version number
- 04:19:55 [timbl]
- --
- 04:19:55 [timbl]
- Users/member:ericp/checkouts/sparql11/Sparql.dmg
- 04:20:01 [timbl]
- ooops
- 04:20:12 [timbl]
- Working directory: /Users/timbl/test .
- 04:20:13 [timbl]
- 192.168.1.5 - - [2010-10-29T04:19:13]"GET /small.trig 1.1" 200 93
- 04:20:25 [timbl]
- Now a insert:
- 04:20:37 [timbl]
- Client log:
- 04:20:39 [ericP]
- 200 OK, Content-Length: 93
- 04:20:39 [timbl]
- Inserting into http://localhost:8073/small.trig
- 04:20:39 [timbl]
- <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#andy> <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#knows> <http://localhost:8073/small.trig#bill> .
- 04:20:39 [timbl]
- returns OK
- 04:21:04 [timbl]
- Server log:
- 04:21:05 [timbl]
- 192.168.1.5 - - [2010-10-29T04:20:27]"POST /small.trig 1.1" 200 93
- 04:21:26 [ericP]
- are you using --debug 1 ?
- 04:21:33 [timbl]
- Oh I wonder whether the issue with it not changing is FF caching
- 04:21:37 [timbl]
- ye
- 04:21:48 [ericP]
- i'da thounk you'd see excruciating detail. i'll look into that
- 04:22:00 [timbl]
- Full og:
- 04:22:04 [timbl]
- log:
- 04:22:10 [timbl]
- $ /Applications/Sparql.app/Contents/MacOS/Sparql --debug 1 -d small.trig --serve http://localhost:8073/sparql
- 04:22:10 [timbl]
- Debug level: 1.
- 04:22:10 [timbl]
- Queued reading default data from small.trig.
- 04:22:11 [timbl]
- + Stream constructed to read file small.trig.
- 04:22:11 [timbl]
- Reading small.trig into Default Graph.
- 04:22:12 [timbl]
- <loadedData>
- 04:22:12 [timbl]
- {
- 04:22:12 [timbl]
- }
- 04:22:13 [timbl]
- <small.trig> {
- 04:22:13 [timbl]
- <small.trig#a> <small.trig#p> <small.trig#c> .
- 04:22:14 [timbl]
- <small.trig#a> <small.trig#q> "Hello World" .
- 04:22:14 [timbl]
- }
- 04:22:14 [timbl]
- </loadedData>
- 04:22:15 [timbl]
- Working directory: /Users/timbl/test .
- 04:22:15 [timbl]
- 192.168.1.5 - - [2010-10-29T04:19:13]"GET /small.trig 1.1" 200 93
- 04:22:15 [timbl]
- 192.168.1.5 - - [2010-10-29T04:20:27]"POST /small.trig 1.1" 200 93
- 04:22:31 [ericP]
- huh, looks like the http handler is rather reticent
- 04:22:57 [ericP]
- funny, it used to be too verbose
- 04:23:35 [timbl]
- File still the same:
- 04:23:36 [timbl]
- $ curl http://localhost:8073/small.trig
- 04:23:36 [timbl]
- <small.trig#a> <small.trig#p> <small.trig#c> .
- 04:23:36 [timbl]
- <small.trig#a> <small.trig#q> "Hello World" .
- 04:23:39 [timbl]
- -----
- 04:24:43 [ericP]
- ok. can play then
- 04:24:46 [timbl]
- It could be that doing it in AJAX has FFox caching problems at a level difficult to tweak.
- 04:25:02 [ericP]
- i'll beef up the loggin
- 04:25:04 [ericP]
- g
- 04:25:05 [timbl]
- till tomorrow
- 04:25:14 [ericP]
- ciao
- 05:02:04 [ericP]
- timbl, i built a new Sparql.dmg which dumps HTTP response bodies when --debug 1
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- 12:28:15 [timbl]
- hey they is slways --debug 2
- 12:28:37 [timbl]
- (cwm uses 1-100 a almost every step gives you mote stuff)
- 12:28:47 [timbl]
- (not very useful as you need to folcus)
- 12:29:36 [timbl]
- Stil says $ curl http://localhost:8073/small.trig
- 12:29:37 [timbl]
- <small.trig#a> <small.trig#p> <small.trig#c> .
- 12:29:37 [timbl]
- <small.trig#a> <small.trig#q> "Hello World" .
- 12:29:54 [timbl]
- Ooops
- 12:30:00 [timbl]
- sory wrong clipboard
- 12:32:58 [timbl]
- Using the app from the .dmg on in /Users/ericp/checkouts/... and it doens't sem to hav any more debug
- 12:34:28 [timbl]
- Now I set debug to 2 just in case it woks and IU do get more stuff on the read .. but nothing on the POST
- 12:36:05 [timbl]
- I suspect that that is because nothing is HAPPENING on the POST.
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- Hmm. I can edit http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/people/JoeLambda#JL ago "abracadabra".
- 16:37:03 [timbl]
- But not http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/wiki/test/JoeLambda
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- in the same way
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- The file stays zero triples
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- Problem editing an empty file?
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- used to work
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- timbl, just sent a draft of the doc, if any q's or examples needed just ping in pm so I can respond quickly, I'll be on hand for the next couple of hours
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