IRC log of dig on 2011-02-09
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- presbrey, fyi you can't create stores on data.fm, enter store name, tab - circle spins 4ever
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- re: Web Apps - requirements for installation and management - music industry is grappling w/ this one right now, btw - they want to use Widgets, but not enough deployment w/ that for their next-gen web-based music format... nice to see someone pushing on it.
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- (and by music industry - I mean people at Sony Music Entertainment, Warner Music, Universal Music, etc.
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- http://connectedmediaexperience.org/
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- http://connectedmediaexperience.org/technicaloverview.html
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- 17:01:50 [presbrey]
- thx webr3
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- check now?
- 17:04:52 [presbrey]
- we have a panel there for listing stores of friends
- 17:06:07 [presbrey]
- the server does it based on your webid. I would like to transition that to an RDF JS library
- 17:08:12 [presbrey]
- hows yours coming?
- 17:08:41 [presbrey]
- Pipian_, yours uses local storage for indexing?
- 17:09:28 [Pipian_]
- It actually just uses indexedDB for persistent storage.
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- But not indexing.
- 17:09:57 [Pipian_]
- I need to finish writing the unit tests to make sure that the persistent part is working.
- 17:11:27 [presbrey]
- persistent? cool. how persistent? eg. can I set a graph's TTL?
- 17:12:03 [Pipian_]
- No, right now it's just a saved/not-saved paradigm.
- 17:12:47 [Pipian_]
- If a graph is marked as persistent, it will be saved and all future changes will be automatically saved.
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- It can also be marked as unpersistent to delete the graph.
- 17:13:09 [presbrey]
- versioning?
- 17:13:38 [Pipian_]
- Not at this time, although I suppose both TTL and versioning could be implemented as extensions of this.
- 17:14:16 [presbrey]
- is there a specific distinction you are making between delete, mark as unpersistent, deleted, and unpersisted?
- 17:15:16 [Pipian_]
- So, there is a mechanism to decouple a graph from its persistent version so that changes aren't automatically saved.
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- There is also a mechanism to completely delete a graph as well.
- 17:15:37 [presbrey]
- oh, copy-on-write! :) cool
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- and unlink, of course, nice
- 17:16:55 [Pipian_]
- Effectively.
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- Although it's not exactly copy-on-write.
- 17:18:05 [presbrey]
- is this hg/indexedRDF?
- 17:19:01 [Pipian_]
- Yes.
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- Like I said, I haven't gotten a chance to actually test the persistent stuff though
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- But the baseline API has unit tests for it.
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- 17:20:53 [Pipian_]
- I should probably write some examples in addition to the tests and documentation.
- 17:20:54 [presbrey]
- sounds quite useful in any case
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- 17:21:56 [presbrey]
- rdf needs better process forking
- 17:28:42 [webr3]
- presbrey, cool that's fixed it (re data.fm), implementation of rdf api is going slowly for me, purely because i can't seem to grab enough time, dropped a contract though so should have time over the next 2 weeks
- 17:29:05 [webr3]
- better process forking? can you expand on what you mean (I'm missing something)
- 17:34:41 [presbrey]
- copy-on-write is used in your commodity kernel VMM to optimize process forking, the fork() syscall
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- I was likening my understanding of Pipian_'s graph persistency model to it
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- though I haven't seen it and Pipian_ hasn't tested it ;)
- 17:37:02 [webr3]
- I've seen it and haven't tested it :p
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- actually not sure why I'm putting :p at the end of that, it's more of a :( - have been looking forward to playing w/ indexedRDF
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