IRC log of dig on 2011-02-22

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11:14:01 [timbl]
boost-log/stage/lib/libboost_log.so.1.45.0
11:16:10 [timbl]
Library not loaded: boost-log/stage/lib/libboost_log.so.1.45.0
11:16:42 [timbl]
14:16 here means 06:16 EST
11:26:55 [timbl]
I can't find any boost module which I don't have which looks as though it would provide boost-log. Search path issues I wonder?
11:27:13 [timbl]
Guess I'll need mysql5
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11:31:04 [timbl]
Hmmm the new .app includes in Frameworks a libboost_log.so.1.45.0
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unlike the old .app
11:31:20 [timbl]
Assume that is the problem
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12:23:21 [ericP]
timbl, worky now?
12:23:47 [ericP]
it should work without installing boost
12:25:14 [timbl]
Ok, it does -version on pond
12:25:43 [timbl]
is .dmg updated?
12:26:35 [ericP]
yep
12:26:49 [ericP]
are you testing on a box without boost?
12:27:04 [ericP]
(and ideally without mysql?)
12:27:25 [ericP]
'cause if that works for you, i can use it for a hands-on tutorial tomorrow
12:27:30 [timbl]
!rsync
12:27:58 [timbl]
I had to install boost
12:28:24 [timbl]
and so then I installed mysql5 whil eI was at it
12:28:49 [ericP]
i'll try it on muriel's machine
12:29:11 [timbl]
Well, actually I may just have seen boost in the libboost
12:29:32 [timbl]
and just jumpted to install boost
12:31:03 [timbl]
_________
12:31:06 [timbl]
Much better:
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$ /Applications/Sparql.app/Contents/MacOS/Sparql --pathmap s{data/}{serverroot/} --serve http://localhost:8880/SPARQL
12:31:07 [timbl]
Working directory: /devel/ericp .
12:32:39 [ericP]
there's a lot of power in those path renamings
12:32:45 [ericP]
i have no idea what all one could do
12:33:51 [ericP]
(e.g you can capture and make back-refs a la s{people/\([0-9]+\)}{dir\1foo/}
12:37:24 [timbl]
> { <http://dig.csail.xvm.mit.edu/2007/wiki/people/JoeLambda#JL> \
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> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/age> 66 }' \
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> -H Content-type:application/sparql-query \
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> http://localhost:8080/me.ttl
12:37:25 [timbl]
curl: (52) Empty reply from server
12:37:25 [timbl]
$ ls serverroot/
12:37:25 [timbl]
$
12:38:37 [ericP]
that was a PUT?
12:38:44 [timbl]
POST
12:39:10 [ericP]
huh, i wonder what will happen when you post that to http://localhost:8080/data/me.ttl
12:39:23 [timbl]
curl -d 'INSERT .." oops missig DATA
12:39:26 [ericP]
(note the "data/" to correspond to the pathmap
12:39:32 [ericP]
)
12:40:10 [timbl]
ooops i missed out a debug level.
12:40:31 [ericP]
--debug 3 will get it all
12:40:34 [timbl]
(The conference goes to asr prayer beneath me)
12:42:32 [timbl]
ooops -- you use 8880
12:42:57 [timbl]
<html><head><title>Bad Request</title></head><body><h1>400 Bad Request</h1></body></html>
12:43:52 [timbl]
it needs data/ I guess
12:44:20 [timbl]
400 Bad Request
12:44:36 [timbl]
with
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curl -d 'INSERT DATA \
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{ <http://dig.csail.xvm.mit.edu/2007/wiki/people/JoeLambda#JL> \
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<http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/age> 66 }' -H Content-type:application/sparql-query http://localhost:8880/data/me.ttl
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12:45:10 [timbl]
15:44 - 8 = 7:44
12:46:29 [ericP]
yeah, woke up at 5:00
12:47:29 [timbl]
Hope not a sign of worry or depression
12:47:56 [ericP]
a bit stressed, but should alleviate soon
12:49:05 [timbl]
curl -d "INSERT DATA { GRAPH <data/me.ttl> { <s> <p> <o> } }" http://localhost:8880/
12:49:09 [timbl]
<html><head><title>Bad Request</title></head><body><h1>400 Bad Request</h1></body></html>$
12:49:33 [timbl]
That was the POST you suggested in your mail
12:49:34 [ericP]
http://localhost:8880/data/foo ?
12:49:36 [ericP]
hmm
12:50:05 [timbl]
same
12:50:12 [ericP]
i had done with with a browser, i wonder if that changes soemthing
12:50:19 [ericP]
(Which it shouldn't)
12:51:17 [timbl]
You had done a psot with a browser?
12:51:22 [timbl]
post?
12:52:29 [ericP]
i *think* so
12:52:37 [ericP]
replicated locally
12:52:49 [ericP]
b'fast time. will get back to you in 20 mins
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topic is: Decentralized Information Group @ MIT http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
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Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS lkagal melvster IvanHerman manu1 timbl danbri webr3 sandro der-rho-ist gbot30 presbrey ericP manu-db
12:56:09 [timbl]
Nice 404 message with client headers
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13:02:58 [timbl]
GET http://localhost:8880/SPARQL -> Q&D SPARQL Server Parsing Error
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13:04:03 [timbl]
curl -I http://localhost:8880/data/foo
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HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found
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Content-Length: 975
13:04:33 [timbl]
How would I know that that is in principle writable?
13:15:25 [timbl]
so the 404 should come with a writable header?
13:15:33 [timbl]
Author-Via?
13:15:40 [ericP]
re: in principle writable, anything which matches a pathmap
13:16:08 [ericP]
yeah, but i bet i'm issuing that header indiscrimanently
13:16:11 [timbl]
How does tabulator know, if it doesn't get back an empty document with the MS-Author-Via ?
13:16:28 [timbl]
Youre not on 404s
13:16:41 [ericP]
ahh, can add that
13:17:22 [ericP]
in principle, all of this agent's graphs are editable, but a subset are backed by a filesystem hierarchy
13:17:46 [timbl]
I'd have to hack the tabulator code to spot it
13:18:01 [timbl]
(You should only callit writable if you don't throw the data away)
13:19:02 [timbl]
But the insert data doesn't work either
13:19:59 [timbl]
always 400 bad request
13:20:49 [timbl]
Would be nice if 400 bad request had a reason somewhere
13:21:27 [ericP]
hmm, could pass the exception info in
13:22:34 [timbl]
"Errrr while trying to do x with y, stack follows" is nice
13:23:08 [ericP]
let's see something work: go to http://localhost:8880/
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(with a browser thingie)
13:23:23 [timbl]
yes
13:23:33 [ericP]
and paste in "INSERT DATA { GRAPH <data/foo.ttl> { <s> <p> <o> } }"
13:23:55 [ericP]
then look for serverroot/foo.ttl
13:24:13 [timbl]
yes I have a foo.ttl
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$ cat foo.ttl
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<s> <p> <o> .
13:24:31 [ericP]
ok, that's one thing that works
13:24:33 [timbl]
Ok, something works
13:24:53 [ericP]
now to beat on the rest
13:27:04 [timbl]
I wonder whether it is URL encoding
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in the post
13:27:45 [ericP]
poking around in debugger now...
13:28:07 [timbl]
No can't be as it displays the right query in the debug output
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13:34:59 [ericP]
something with the http req -- never getting to the sparql request handler...
13:45:06 [timbl]
thanks for doing stuff at ungodly hour of the morning
13:47:32 [ericP]
i think it's becoming godly
13:48:42 [ericP]
got it
13:48:50 [ericP]
it's not URL-encoding the req URI
13:48:56 [ericP]
i wasn't looking hard
13:49:24 [timbl]
with a post, there is no url encoding in the URI
13:49:35 [timbl]
the query is in the body
13:49:47 [ericP]
GET /?INSERT DATA { GRAPH <data/me.ttl> { <s> <p> <o> } } HTTP/1.0\r\n
13:49:53 [ericP]
ahh, i was doing a get
13:50:04 [ericP]
(yes, i know, WRONG)
13:50:05 [timbl]
see above curl
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13:52:07 [timbl]
I do have to get this pbass printed ...
13:52:37 [ericP]
ok, i'll let you know what i come up with
13:53:22 [ericP]
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
13:53:22 [ericP]
INSERT DATA { GRAPH <data/me.ttl> { <s> <p> <o> } }
13:53:30 [ericP]
does curl encode for you?
14:05:38 [ericP]
timbl, curl -F query="INSERT DATA { GRAPH <data/me.ttl> { <s> <p> <o> } }" http://localhost:8880/
14:09:26 [ericP]
no idea how to make it send application/sparql-query
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14:32:48 [danbri]
ericp, following webid work at all? I just sent http://www.w3.org/2001/04/20-ACLs.html around the webid xg list... but if you've more details on rdf/acl stuff, would be great...
14:33:13 [ericP]
haven't thought about it at all
14:33:43 [ericP]
and i suspect that the little bit of herik's notion of rnodes that got captured is all we have
14:34:00 [danbri]
does access control on w3.org still use rdf somehow?
14:35:47 [ericP]
i think that's been irradicated
14:36:18 [ericP]
it used to be used between the web client and the CGI to keep state between manipulations
14:37:47 [ericP]
that's what disappeared
14:38:54 [ericP]
though i think rrsagent still speaks to the new chacl via RDF, so maybe...
14:42:12 [danbri]
you've long retired from such duties?
14:42:22 [ericP]
yup
14:43:43 [danbri]
congratulations
14:45:46 [ericP]
too much stress -- want to go back
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(tequila in a sippy cup...)
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[Global Notice] Hi everyone! Just a bit of re-routing there which will hopefully reduce lag in parts of the network and make the layout a bit more sane. Sorry for the noise! Join #freenode with any questions.
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