IRC log of dig on 2011-12-02

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Privacy: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technocracy/2011/11/facebook_privacy_you_re_as_much_to_blame_for_the_site_s_privacy_woes_as_mark_zuckerberg_.html
14:12:46 [timbl]
"This might seem obvious: Facebook is on the Internet, and the Internet’s main function is to distribute information—of course Facebook can’t be private. That photo you just shared with “friends only”? Not only is it now stored on dozens of Facebook servers across the planet, but it has also lodged itself into each of your friends’ browser caches. What’s more, any of your “friends” is free to grab a screenshot of your image a
14:12:46 [timbl]
spread it to the wider world. At best, then, the “privacy controls” on Facebook (or Google+, for that matter) should be regarded as aspirational, the most optimistic scenario for your data. Friends only, hopefully."
14:13:24 [timbl]
A case for embedded policy metadata, or a case aginst it?
14:15:42 [melvster]
timbl: imho, the case for ... meta data can get smarter over time ... the first chess programs were fails, but now can beat anyone ... you dont get to the end game without take the first step :)
14:16:06 [webr3]
and imho both, if it enables those socially responsible to be more so, and more respecting of their friends privacy, then it's good
14:17:29 [webr3]
timbl: melvster and I are working on a new project, and it would be useful to have some stats on common browser / mobile device capabilities of the poorest, yet conencted, nations - know where we can find them? (you may know via related work on web foundation)
14:20:11 [nunnun]
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14:25:08 [timbl]
Good question
14:35:04 [webr3]
ty, project overview in case you're interested: http://titanpad.com/VQcJdI2FnE
14:37:01 [melvster]
:) timbl our idea is essentially to use socially aware cloud storage to keep track IOUs and account balances between individuals and groups
14:37:21 [melvster]
so hooking on to data.fm , unhosted and other decentralized stores
14:38:04 [melvster]
then trying to persuade as many people as possible to use read write web standards
14:39:52 [timbl]
Passed your question on to josema@webfoundation.org
14:40:02 [timbl]
he says he will ask colleagues
14:40:20 [melvster]
the advantage is that it will be usable in developing nations e.g. as free alternative to M-Pesa ... hence looking for web capabilities on mobile
14:40:38 [melvster]
timbl: thanks!
14:42:28 [webr3]
likewise, ty!
14:42:55 [timbl]
yw
14:43:09 [timbl]
The project is looking for what sort of funding?
14:44:01 [melvster]
timbl: we applied to nlnet for a small amount of funding 12000, they offer funding for projects adhering to web standards each year
14:45:48 [melvster]
nlnet have already funded unhosted so there's a reasonable chance they'll say yes ... but in any case we're probably going to be working on this and the bigger picture full time from now :)
14:46:12 [webr3]
we'll here in the new year, and final acceptance in 3 months - hopeing to get the prototype out for xmas, we heard good things happen w/ a 25th december release
14:47:31 [melvster]
lol yeah we kind of thought the prototype of decentralized cash system would be the perfect 21st birthday present for the Web! :D
14:48:46 [melvster]
if you have any feedback, it would be gratefully received!
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19:55:49 [presbrey]
sorry I can't make the ventures class and #dig party :( I fly out next wednesday.
19:56:11 [presbrey]
my best wishes and holiday cheer to all of you!
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20:20:58 [amy]
ah, sorry to hear that we'll miss you Joe but have a great holiday :)
20:21:05 [amy]
please come by and see us in the New Year!
20:48:32 [presbrey]
thanks amy, you too :)
20:49:49 [amy]
thanks :)
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