IRC log of dig on 2011-12-22

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[rdflib.js] timbl pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ktQ66g
03:55:52 [github]
[rdflib.js/master] Try a sumple asyncOnChannelRedirect same as onChannelRedirect - Tim Berners-Lee
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03:56:51 [timbl]
Ok, cool, I can check it in with my normal github creds
03:56:59 [timbl]
Oshani, try that
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19:27:25 [bblfish]
I am defending RDFa on the WebID list
19:27:34 [bblfish]
perhaps I should not
19:28:05 [bblfish]
Kinglsey wants microdata
19:53:22 [presbrey]
hi bblfish, did you get a chance to test mod_authn_webid / data.fm up to new webID spec?
19:55:06 [presbrey]
hi timbl, sorry the rename from tabulator to tabulator-firefox causes "<timbl> fatal: https://github.com/linkeddata/tabulator/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?"
19:55:47 [presbrey]
from that point you can either use 'git remote' to update your remotes to the new git URL or you can rm-rf your local and re-clone
19:56:18 [presbrey]
I see you got a commit into rdflib.js, are you stuck on tabulator?
19:57:40 [presbrey]
bblfish, melvster1 tested his rdfa webID (latest spec) and said it worked great
20:03:30 [timbl]
I am not understanding.
20:03:48 [bblfish]
presbrey: yes I logged into data.fm
20:03:49 [timbl]
I thought now I am just using firefox-tabulator,
20:04:15 [presbrey]
yes we only have tabulator-firefox right now, no chrome or separate mash quite yet
20:04:22 [timbl]
Where did you get "https://github.com/linkeddata/tabulator/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?""
20:04:38 [timbl]
s/did.*server//
20:04:44 [bblfish]
presbrey: You should use the CN in your upper right hand screen to address the user, or the foaf:name, but the card#me is a bit of an odd way to address a user
20:05:33 [timbl]
Where would I run git update-server-info ?
20:13:33 [bblfish]
presbrey: thanks for lignin up :-)
20:21:38 [presbrey]
timbl, that is just a 404 in disguise since linkeddata/tabulator does not exist, we renamed to linkeddata/tabulator-firefox
20:22:19 [presbrey]
bblfish, foaf:name or other LD literals are a good idea
20:22:41 [bblfish]
yes. with default back to CN in cert
20:23:16 [presbrey]
I like fallback to URI, CN is not distinct / safe / verifiable
20:23:23 [bblfish]
btw, did you see my new dip? https://foafssl.org/srv/idp
20:23:40 [bblfish]
Oh CN is what the user wants to be identified as
20:23:45 [bblfish]
as a human user
20:23:56 [bblfish]
it's what he uses to select the certificate
20:24:06 [bblfish]
s/dip/idp/
20:24:17 [bblfish]
so for people that is what they think of as their name
20:27:26 [bblfish]
you should separate the tag from the uRI
20:27:47 [presbrey]
CN should work but I do not think recommended
20:27:51 [bblfish]
<a href="http://auri.com/person#me">Joe Walsh</a>
20:27:58 [bblfish]
why not recommended?
20:28:04 [bblfish]
DN would not be recommended
20:28:08 [bblfish]
CN is the Common Name
20:28:31 [bblfish]
you don't have to trust it, but then you have no reason to trust the foaf:name more either
20:28:55 [presbrey]
mixing x509 and LD data streams seems bad / slippery slope
20:29:37 [presbrey]
eg. melvster1 also uses his modulus in gpg; no x509, no CN
20:33:58 [bblfish]
well just saying that if someone comes to you with a cert that has a CN you have a name ready made immediately to greet them with
20:34:13 [bblfish]
you don't use that as their ID, just a human label
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21:41:45 [melvster1]
yes im sure there's a bunch of x.509 specific things you can do, not sure it should be prioritized before we have a really nice LD user experience going, but after that it may be the icing on the cake ...
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22:27:48 [timbl]
Presbrey, I don't know where the dangling reference to linkeddata/tabulator/ is .. where did you see the error?
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