IRC log of dig on 2012-01-25

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00:04:16 [rszeno]
melvster, is nice, i tryed, :)
00:04:27 [melvster]
bit buggy still
00:04:40 [rszeno]
not realy
00:04:41 [melvster]
but thanks :)
00:05:54 [rszeno]
maybe you need to add a constraint on jquery selectors to forbid to add something in the past
00:06:25 [rszeno]
work fine for me in ffox 8.0
00:06:39 [melvster]
cool
00:08:53 [rszeno]
jquery app plugin? is yours?
00:10:26 [melvster]
fullcalendar
00:10:50 [rszeno]
that's great, :)
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[tabulator] timbl pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/sVmq-w
13:42:30 [github]
[tabulator/master] merge - Tim Berners-Lee
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13:56:10 [bblfish]
s/scalar/scalaz/
13:56:29 [betehess]
hey bblfish (/me just arrived at MIT)
13:56:54 [bblfish]
oh cool. I want to use actors to do parallel webid resolution
13:57:08 [betehess]
you should go for akka: they are about to become the standard actors in Scala
13:57:29 [bblfish]
are they going to tie in with scalar?
13:57:31 [betehess]
they are supported by typesafe
13:57:32 [bblfish]
scalaz
13:57:39 [betehess]
yes
13:57:58 [betehess]
hrmm
13:57:58 [betehess]
what do you mean?
13:58:02 [betehess]
akka's actors are well tested
13:58:13 [betehess]
and widely used
13:58:44 [bblfish]
yes, I was thinking about that. But I also heard that they were more complex. At least it seems so from reading the documentation
14:00:01 [betehess]
go directly for 2.0-M3
14:00:06 [betehess]
a lot simpler
14:00:18 [betehess]
we're already using them
14:00:24 [bblfish]
ah ok
14:00:33 [bblfish]
well in that case.
14:01:01 [bblfish]
I was thinking of making the WebCache into an actor
14:01:17 [bblfish]
probably overkill for this, but I'll see how it goes
14:01:39 [betehess]
not overkill at all
14:01:46 [betehess]
as you can use Futures for free
14:02:17 [betehess]
just wrap the cache in an actor
14:02:24 [bblfish]
yes.
14:02:28 [betehess]
this one doesn't need to be synchronized any longer
14:02:44 [betehess]
then write your API on top of Future
14:03:01 [betehess]
and make all the nodejs guys jealous of your framework :-p
14:03:22 [bblfish]
yes, I was thinking of Having My X509 Claim have a bunch WebIdClaims, some of which are not yet verified, or in process, some of which are verified
14:04:09 [bblfish]
ok, I'll make them jealous accidentally without knowing, given that I don't know node.js :-)
14:04:28 [betehess]
do you want the "client" that access the claims to be aware of the state?
14:04:29 [betehess]
using futures, you shouldn't care
14:04:43 [betehess]
you just say: when you have it, do that
14:05:22 [bblfish]
well an X509 Claim should be useable immediately
14:05:36 [bblfish]
perhaps even if only one WebID Claim succeeds
14:05:45 [bblfish]
the others can come in later
14:06:11 [bblfish]
for example rszeno an an X509Cert with 2 webids, one of which would block (due to dns trouble)
14:06:39 [bblfish]
I should be able to report back: 1WebId succeeded, the other might in the future.
14:06:59 [betehess]
akka's futures already gives you that
14:07:05 [bblfish]
ah good.
14:07:19 [betehess]
the new api let you compose them in many ways
14:07:19 [bblfish]
anyway, I'll follow the crowd here
14:07:54 [bblfish]
good. I am sure this will be useful all over the place
14:08:12 [betehess]
yep
14:09:45 [bblfish]
by the way, as the French state is sponsoring this work, I have to at regular intervals say "Vive la France!"
14:12:12 [betehess]
you better use well my taxes
14:12:58 [bblfish]
you're paying US taxes!
14:13:36 [bblfish]
Well I am I am working on OpenSource and open standards
14:13:57 [betehess]
:-)
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14:32:27 [melvster]
bblfish: you got sponsorship? congrats! :)
14:32:57 [bblfish]
Oh, I have had it for the last year
14:33:37 [melvster]
brilliant well done
14:47:15 [bblfish]
oh nothing brilliant, it just comes from living in a country with good social protection
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18:39:18 [presbrey]
http://data.fm/proxy?uri=http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card
18:39:28 [presbrey]
tabulator + crossOrigin proxy
18:40:12 [presbrey]
lots of extra xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/elt requests :(
18:40:36 [presbrey]
need to pass up the 30x
18:43:06 [melvster]
presbrey nice
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[data.fm] presbrey pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/Qtwmlw
18:45:33 [github]
[data.fm/master] GET: disable favicon consolidation - Joe Presbrey
18:45:33 [github]
[data.fm/master] skin/dev: use tabulator trunk - Joe Presbrey
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[data.fm/master] skin: add proxy via jQuery.ajaxPrefilter - Joe Presbrey
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18:47:00 [presbrey]
melvster :)
18:47:01 [melvster]
presbrey: did you see http://www.informationweek.in/Software/12-01-19/Web_inventor_foretells_the_next_wave.aspx
18:47:09 [presbrey]
the jquery integrations are pretty slick
18:47:16 [presbrey]
https://github.com/linkeddata/data.fm/commit/48a5800
18:47:41 [melvster]
oh cool
18:49:01 [melvster]
“We are moving from a Web of documents, which people do not understand, to things like calendars and address cards, which are understandable. When you pack all this together you can get to a person and to their friends, and go through the music they like and find other important things like which town they were born in. You can do all these things using all the data you had access to,
18:49:43 [melvster]
we'll get the music working one day, i promise! :)
18:50:29 [melvster]
im going to try and add colors to the calendar
18:50:40 [melvster]
dont yet have a good predicate for hasColor tho
18:51:33 [melvster]
i think we may need to regig a few things for the latest json-ld too
18:51:47 [melvster]
tho it's still a moving target
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presbrey: will start to build up tools here ... just testing so far ... http://util.data.fm/test.html
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22:18:24 [presbrey]
cool feel free to use scripts.data.fm, apps.data.fm, tools.data.fm, or we can 30x
22:18:36 [presbrey]
what LD do you write to set up a 30x?
22:18:45 [presbrey]
.meta?
22:22:31 [melvster]
maybe i can add this .... http://www.appelsiini.net/projects/jeditable
22:23:44 [melvster]
hmmm not sure for redirects ... just starting with simple stuff :)
22:27:34 [melvster]
hmmm just saw the TAG mail .... http 2.0? :)
23:20:19 [melvster]
presbrey im starting to use the command 'iwatch'
23:20:38 [melvster]
it watches the file system and can execute commands when a file changes
23:21:05 [melvster]
is one way of making things like data.fm more realtime
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