IRC log of dig on 2012-04-12

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00:30:08 [bblfish]
betehess: ?
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08:25:57 [melvster]
bblfish thanks i added that link to our wiki
08:26:32 [melvster]
on our call you mentioned you were writing a blog/paper about the social system you were working on, do you have a link?
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11:52:30 [bblfish_]
melvster, the student will write it up in June
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12:12:58 [bblfish]
betehess: so I am thinking of adding Image PUT and GET to rww. Any issues with that? (Not sure how long it will take, so I am just investigating)
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13:27:33 [norman1]
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13:28:40 [norman1]
hello
13:33:50 [Deiu]
Hi
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13:35:06 [melvster]
hi!
13:35:29 [melvster]
hi norman ... welcome to dig :)
13:35:37 [norman1]
thank you ;-)
13:35:50 [melvster]
presbrey is normally around too but it may be easter holidays at MIT right now ...
13:36:00 [norman1]
ok
13:36:32 [melvster]
so you're interested in data.fm?
13:36:52 [melvster]
btw i speak a little german too ... :)
13:36:56 [norman1]
yes, it will be part of my bachelor thesis
13:37:09 [melvster]
great!
13:37:11 [norman1]
schön
13:37:39 [melvster]
:)
13:40:06 [norman1]
I tried to run data.fm on my apache, but it did not work, I think
13:43:51 [melvster]
ah right yes ... it needs some configuration ... joe presbrey knows most about that ... there's also .conf in one of the directories
13:44:11 [melvster]
https://github.com/linkeddata/data.fm/tree/master/conf
13:44:19 [norman1]
ok. i had a look at the conf files
13:44:55 [melvster]
sorry we dont have a documentation for this at the moment
13:45:01 [melvster]
but maybe we can make one
13:47:54 [norman1]
i would do that. no problem
13:48:47 [norman1]
i made an entry in inc/runtime.inc.php and set my 'base_url'
13:49:09 [norman1]
so url's are working allready
13:50:29 [melvster]
ah
13:50:45 [melvster]
so what is your end goal?
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13:50:57 [melvster]
you want to do something with semantic pingback?
13:58:40 [norman1]
yes. sebastian tramp wrote a paper together with some others from (it was in one of his mails but i'm not sure) about 'distributed semantic social network'. semantic pingback plays a role e.g. for friending between webIDs. so you will receive a mail and are able to accept this webId as a friend. pubsubhubbub will be used to tell your friends that your activity stream got an update (e.g. you commented a picture).
14:00:01 [norman1]
and i will try to implement this (or at least some parts) in data.fm :-)
14:01:57 [norman1]
forgot: ...some others from http://aksw.org/About
14:04:58 [melvster]
sounds awesome!
14:05:14 [melvster]
it's one of the things we really wanted to do on data fm
14:05:20 [melvster]
make cloud storage social
14:06:18 [melvster]
a lot of people are on vacation now or going to www 2012 (next week) but soon everyone will be back ... would love to work with you to help create something :)
14:06:53 [melvster]
this is my list so far of people that are working on similar projects http://www.w3.org/community/rww/wiki/Social_Systems
14:07:10 [melvster]
it would be really nice if we can get the different systems worth together with each other
14:07:48 [melvster]
already i think "my profile" by Deiu and Openlink Data Spaces support semantic pingback
14:08:00 [norman1]
yes that would be fine.
14:08:02 [Deiu]
melvster, ODS doesn't
14:08:13 [melvster]
kingsley says it does :)
14:08:19 [Deiu]
I can't ping him :)
14:08:35 [melvster]
maybe still buggy ... but we can fix it! :)
14:08:38 [Deiu]
he doesn't have a REST pingback endpoint
14:08:57 [Deiu]
(nor a pingback:to relation in his profile afaik)
14:15:52 [norman1]
melvin can you tell me something about https://github.com/linkeddata/data.fm/blob/master/www/root/login.php because my one does nothing after entering line elseif in line 42
14:18:03 [norman1]
I'm not sure if my https://github.com/linkeddata/data.fm/blob/master/www/inc/runtime.inc.php works like it should be because the keys of $_SERVER [REMOTE_USER] is empty all the time
14:19:13 [melvster]
norman1 ah it looks like a probe sequence
14:19:16 [melvster]
1. facebook
14:19:32 [melvster]
then it looks for https
14:20:06 [melvster]
so if there is https it will try and use WebID
14:20:13 [melvster]
with the apache mods
14:20:35 [melvster]
in https://github.com/linkeddata
14:20:49 [melvster]
did you see mod_authn_webid ?
14:21:51 [norman1]
no, but it looks interesting ;-)
14:22:19 [melvster]
ah i think that's what joe uses for the webid authentication with apache
14:22:32 [melvster]
let me see i wrote something once about how to set it up
14:23:59 [melvster]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2009/mod_authn_webid/README
14:24:59 [melvster]
FOAF+SSL is the old name for WebID when bblfish first invented it :)
14:26:32 [melvster]
so i think you need
14:26:34 [melvster]
autoconf
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./configure && sudo make install
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sudo vi /etc/apache2/mods-available/authn_webid.load
14:27:07 [melvster]
and add
14:27:08 [melvster]
LoadModule authn_webid_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_authn_webid.so
14:27:30 [presbrey]
hi norman1 did you get data.fm on your own server?
14:27:52 [melvster]
he presbrey!
14:28:34 [norman1]
hello presbrey. no i'm trying to install data.fm locally
14:33:19 [presbrey]
cool you can use authn_webid or the builtin webid lib
14:33:28 [presbrey]
mostly important that you get redland, and php-redland
14:33:47 [presbrey]
apache2 lighty and nginx will work
14:38:15 [presbrey]
for builtin webid you just need to set SSL_CLIENT_CERT
14:39:33 [presbrey]
on apache you say SSLOptions +ExportCertData
14:40:30 [norman1]
ok, thank you
14:42:34 [presbrey]
also SSLVerifyClient ofc
14:43:03 [presbrey]
Depth 9 (max)
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14:59:11 [norman1]
ok. thank you melvster and presbrey, nice informations. actually mod_authn_webid installation failed. 'could not loacte OpenSSL Toolkit' after ./configure. openssl is allready installed (version 1.0). but I have to go offline now. my children need something to eat ;-) I think i'll be back tomorrow. cu
14:59:33 [presbrey]
you need openssl-dev or openssl-devel
14:59:50 [presbrey]
always look for devel packages if you are doing the ./configure yourself
15:00:03 [norman1]
ok, thank you
15:00:11 [presbrey]
np good night
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drag and drop works. Romain just dragged timbl into his circle :-)
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