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12:07:13 <un_jon> betehess ping ! 
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13:03:04 <betehess> hey un_jon 
13:03:12 <un_jon> betehess Hi ! 
13:03:22 <un_jon> betehess Do you have 5s ? 
13:03:35 <un_jon> betehess :)
13:03:43 <betehess> can I help?
13:04:37 <un_jon> betehess sure, I am surprised that addToNamedGraph and appendToNamedGraph perform exactly the same side effect on the JenaStore
13:05:04 <betehess> yes
13:05:12 <betehess> shouldn't
13:05:24 <betehess> one should add, the other should append :-)
13:05:36 <betehess> is that right, it's the same implementation right now?
13:05:40 <betehess> that is a mistake
13:05:52 <un_jon> Not really
13:07:21 <bblfish> can one do an append on a set?
13:07:57 <betehess> not on a Set, but on a store
13:08:04 <betehess> there is no append for graphs here
13:08:06 <betehess> https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/blob/master/jena/src/main/scala/jena/JenaStore.scala#L60
13:08:18 <betehess> the implementation is ok at least for JenaStore
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13:08:43 <betehess> if there is no test (can't remember) then I made a mistake
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13:08:53 <bblfish_> DIGlogger: pointer?
13:08:53 <bblfish_> See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2012-06-27#T13-08-53
13:09:41 <un_jon_> =>  My exact question is : if the graph already exist, addNamedGraph should drop the existing graph or not ?
13:09:52 <betehess> it should, yes
13:10:04 <betehess> wiping out all the existing triples
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13:10:11 <un_jon> So, there is a problem at least with Jena TDB
13:10:27 <betehess> that's not what their implementation does?
13:10:47 <betehess> I remember that there used to be an explicit removeGraph there
13:10:56 <un_jon> (and we could use the current implementation of addNamedGraph can be used for append … it's more efficient)
13:10:58 <betehess> but I thinkg the doc says it does it already
13:11:11 <un_jon> I don't know
13:11:32 <betehess> it shouldn't be that much faster: it's still in the same transaction
13:11:46 <un_jon> I can write tests explicitly for that and see if there is something wrong.
13:11:49 <betehess> but maybe...
13:11:59 <betehess> would be a good idea :-)
13:12:05 <un_jon> ok !
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13:12:35 <betehess> https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/blob/master/rdf-test-suite/src/main/scala/AsyncGraphStoreTest.scala
13:13:19 <betehess> and https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/blob/master/rdf-test-suite/src/main/scala/GraphStoreTest.scala
13:13:57 <betehess> there is no test that checks that the previous triples were removed
13:15:12 <betehess> also, one motivated person would write a Scalatest Matcher for isIsomorphicWith ;-)
13:15:26 <betehess> I always meant to
13:30:14 <un_jon> ok, I will take a look at it !
13:35:04 <betehess> we should plan a call to see what are the next steps
13:35:14 <betehess> this week-end?
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13:43:17 <un_jon> betehess on Sunday ? 
13:44:47 <betehess> should be fine if early enough for me, like 8am (2pm for you)
13:44:58 <betehess> while the wife is still sleeping :-)
13:47:54 <un_jon> ok ! 
13:48:48 <un_jon> For the bug with addNamedGraph, it's only with Jena TDB.
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13:48:55 <betehess> weird
13:49:44 <un_jon> https://github.com/un-jon/banana-rdf/commit/7c2cb01f3149bd658f199c186b3150f3ed36a33d
13:50:32 <un_jon> and https://gist.github.com/3004182
13:56:27 <betehess> ok
13:56:31 <betehess> that should be easy to fix
13:57:05 <betehess> I wonder if the doc says something about that
13:57:25 <un_jon> It says it should remove existing data
13:57:53 <un_jon> :/
13:58:30 <betehess> yeah, not very precise
13:58:51 <betehess> "Replaces any existing data for the named graph"
13:59:08 <betehess> does not say "remove all existing data"
14:00:21 <betehess> probably worth asking on #jena
14:00:39 <betehess> in the meantime, we can just remove the namedgraph
14:09:26 <betehess> un_jon, would you cry if I tell you that I may need HList from https://github.com/milessabin/shapeless ?
14:11:26 <betehess> it's only in one place, so I could do the stuff manually though...
14:14:06 <un_jon> betehess I won't cry too much ;) (Btw : I personally asked for a flatMap implementation in HList to Miles Sabin, which he did the next day !! #scaladays)
14:14:23 <betehess> heh
14:17:04 <betehess> one would declare the fields he is interested in, a field being a predicate uri and a binder for the object
14:17:12 <betehess> not sure if field is the best term here
14:18:48 <un_jon> Yeah, I don't really get it like that ! (I am asking Henry a hand)
14:19:12 <un_jon> So, my point of view is : You should use shapeless if you want to
14:19:40 <un_jon> Few people use it
14:19:52 <betehess> yeah
14:19:55 <betehess> still thinking
14:19:56 <bblfish> I have not followed the work on binders yet
14:19:59 <bblfish> so I can't comment yet
14:19:59 <betehess> k
14:57:26 <bblfish> phew, sent a pull request to banana https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/pull/11
14:58:11 <bblfish> betehess: I just need to work on the SPARQL answers in play rww to see if that holds up
14:58:31 <bblfish> just thought you could get an idea what I am doing...
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15:25:50 <un_jon> betehess can we refactor test between AsyncGraphStoreTest and GraphStoreTest ? :) 
15:28:38 <un_jon> bblfish => https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/pull/12/files
15:31:53 <betehess> un_jon: sure
15:32:10 <un_jon> betehess with contexts ? 
15:32:34 <un_jon> (not sure !)
15:34:41 <betehess> are you sure you want to provide and maintain typeclass instances for Monad[Future] ?
15:35:03 <betehess> it's not worth it yet
15:35:22 <betehess> right now, we have only two flavours, that is enough IMO
15:36:04 <betehess> it's true that we could do Future[Validation[BananaException, T]] as well
15:36:11 <betehess> but again, too soon
15:41:36 <un_jon> Maybe I should try it in a branch to see if it's worth it.
15:42:34 <un_jon> I can't come to a judgement right now !
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