IRC log of dig on 2012-07-10

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09:46:48 [melvster1]
deiu: do you think this should work to post to my profile wall? https://gist.github.com/3082339
09:50:56 [melvster1]
maybe i should add content type
09:51:08 [melvster1]
'Content-type': 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded'
09:51:54 [melvster1]
worked!!
09:59:58 [melvster1]
right i can start reposting from twitter to MyProfile now :)
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10:16:33 [deiu]
melvster1, yeah it should work
10:16:42 [melvster1]
is great :)
10:17:21 [deiu]
btw, if you want to also read the wall, you can use Last-Modified and Etag to avoid checking for new messages
10:18:36 [deiu]
hey...isn't that code based on my old gist? :)
10:19:18 [deiu]
nvm, I just read the mail...I'm glad it works! :)
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12:19:33 [bblfish]
betehess: I have a mini version of rww-play up on github https://github.com/read-write-web/rww-play
12:19:40 [bblfish]
still a lot to do
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13:40:05 [betehess]
bblfish, WTF, you're commiting failing tests :-)
13:40:35 [betehess]
[[
13:40:37 [betehess]
[error] Failed tests:
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[error] org.w3.banana.jena.JenaGraphQueryTestJson
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[error] org.w3.banana.jena.JenaGraphQueryTestXml
13:40:37 [bblfish]
I was trying to keep up with the speed of change
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]]
13:41:01 [betehess]
yeah, me too
13:41:10 [bblfish]
is that a new failing test?
13:41:14 [betehess]
I was about to merge jon's stuff in
13:41:14 [bblfish]
I just fixed two
13:41:19 [betehess]
no it's not new
13:41:31 [bblfish]
I am on the sesame test
13:41:33 [betehess]
what's new is that it wasn't failing before afaik
13:42:06 [bblfish]
ah...
13:42:12 [bblfish]
oh you mean just now
13:42:14 [bblfish]
damn
13:42:19 [betehess]
looks like it's https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/commit/e0f338eca6e5c6ebde32cffdaed272142c705b5e
13:42:45 [bblfish]
ah interesting.
13:42:50 [betehess]
can you fix it now and ping me? I'm on jon's stuff right now
13:42:53 [bblfish]
I should have done a full test before commiting
13:43:00 [bblfish]
ok
13:43:01 [betehess]
good idea for next time :-)
13:44:19 [betehess]
how long will it take? just wondering if I can do the merge now and force you to learn rebase at the same time :-)
13:46:06 [bblfish]
I think it takes 30 minutes
13:46:19 [bblfish]
( why is Murphy's law so true ? )
13:48:44 [betehess]
he was a claver guy I guess
13:48:52 [bblfish]
damn, was coding while talking on the phone, my last fix is bogus
13:49:13 [betehess]
hrm, I see some stuff that is wrong in jon's pull-request
13:52:09 [betehess]
wow, I just had a java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
13:52:13 [betehess]
sbt?
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13:53:34 [betehess]
bblfish, I just did the merge to help jon working form there, but a simple hg pull --rebase should be fine on your side
13:53:45 [bblfish]
ok,
13:53:53 [bblfish]
you mean git pull --rebase?
13:54:11 [bblfish]
:-)
13:54:31 [betehess]
yes :-)
13:54:41 [betehess]
sorry, I'm using both everyday
14:02:06 [betehess]
bblfish, is jon around?
14:02:13 [bblfish]
He's at the dentist
14:02:24 [bblfish]
in Paris
14:02:26 [betehess]
how convenient when I have questions for him :-)
14:03:18 [bblfish]
he is using IRC more regulary recently, so I think he might be on
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later
14:03:42 [betehess]
k
14:04:46 [bblfish]
argh, Sesame's api for sparql is annoying
14:05:14 [bblfish]
one has to know before parsing a sparql answer whether it is an ASK or a SELECT..!
14:07:42 [betehess]
really?
14:07:51 [bblfish]
yes
14:07:57 [betehess]
maybe you can do brute-force to start with...
14:07:59 [bblfish]
I had a discussion on their list about that
14:08:04 [betehess]
not perfect, but it works
14:08:09 [betehess]
yes, I remember
14:08:09 [bblfish]
yes, I need to try to make it throw an exception
14:08:13 [betehess]
yep
14:08:24 [bblfish]
I think I have to try ASK first, then tuple
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testing
14:08:56 [betehess]
you should test the most likely first
14:09:08 [betehess]
so ASK would be last I guess
14:09:13 [betehess]
I'm not sure
14:09:18 [betehess]
what do people use?
14:09:51 [bblfish]
Euh, I tested SELECT first, but it returns an empty iteration
14:10:01 [bblfish]
so it does not throw an exception
14:10:33 [betehess]
empty iteration of what?
14:10:43 [betehess]
of select queries?
14:10:47 [bblfish]
yes
14:10:52 [betehess]
what?
14:11:03 [bblfish]
well they don't type their answers
14:11:22 [betehess]
you parse something and you potentially get several things in return?
14:11:31 [bblfish]
sigh
14:11:40 [betehess]
we're not speaking of query execution, are we?
14:11:49 [betehess]
only parsing, right?
14:12:05 [betehess]
what does it mean to parse several queries at once?
14:12:19 [betehess]
I don't understand
14:12:27 [bblfish]
I parse an ANSWER
14:12:39 [bblfish]
the answer could be the answer to a SELECT or an ASK query
14:12:58 [bblfish]
their answer parser forces one to know which one it is
14:13:23 [bblfish]
So I have to find a way of sorting that out.
14:13:32 [bblfish]
It's probably nearly easier to write a parser for that
14:13:55 [betehess]
I still don't see where the iteration comes up
14:14:08 [betehess]
ok, /me is letting you figuring out the details
14:14:22 [bblfish]
here /Volumes/Dev/Programming/w3.org/git/banana-rdf/sesame/src/main/scala/sesame/SparqlQueryResultsReader.scala
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14:15:13 [betehess]
ok, let me dereference this guy
14:15:19 [betehess]
oh drat, doesn't work
14:15:27 [betehess]
:-)
14:15:40 [betehess]
I'll look into that later anyway
14:15:46 [betehess]
I've got other things to do
14:15:57 [bblfish]
just search in your code for SparqlQueryResultsReader
14:16:10 [bblfish]
yep
14:16:30 [bblfish]
QueryResultIO.parse is the method that returns an iterator
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14:49:53 [bblfish]
betehess: I pushed a fix for the issue we were discussing. The last bug is quite consistent now: Sesame can't find you in the list of editors but Jena can
14:51:30 [betehess]
still not ok
14:52:32 [betehess]
it's either a bug on the sesame side, in that case you use the flag that jon has provided, or it's an error on your side, and you'll need to fix it
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14:53:12 [bblfish]
betehess: the error now is related to it not finding you in the file
14:53:55 [bblfish]
which is a different error from the previous one
14:54:05 [betehess]
the question is: is it supposed to work or not?
14:54:06 [bblfish]
the two errros shown have the same cause now
14:54:32 [bblfish]
Well, now one can check and see if this is a bug in Sesame, or elsewhere
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14:54:47 [betehess]
if the logic in the test looks good, then you need to take action to fix it somehow
14:55:07 [betehess]
"one" == bblfish :-)
14:55:09 [bblfish]
agreed. Was about to look into it now
14:55:13 [betehess]
ok
14:55:14 [betehess]
thanks
14:55:18 [un_jon]
:)
14:55:30 [bblfish]
just putting it up there in case someone has an idea too...
14:55:52 [betehess]
no time to invest right now
14:57:00 [bblfish]
btw, betehess did you see https://github.com/read-write-web/rww-play
14:57:28 [bblfish]
that's my first code for a RWW in play2.0
14:58:07 [un_jon]
bblfish that's nice !
14:58:24 [bblfish]
ah un_jon betehess had a question for you earlier
14:58:37 [betehess]
not tried yet
14:58:42 [betehess]
question?
14:59:15 [betehess]
I'm writing the UnsafeExtractor typeclass right
14:59:27 [un_jon]
betehess that's funny, my question was about the tests and the Monad
14:59:43 [un_jon]
betehess so you are on it.
15:00:20 [betehess]
yes
15:00:22 [bblfish]
DIGlogger: pointer
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See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2012-07-10#T15-00-22
15:00:30 [betehess]
should be there in less than 30 minutes
15:01:24 [bblfish]
yes, http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2012-07-10#T14-02-06
15:01:26 [un_jon]
betehess Ok !
15:02:02 [bblfish]
un_jon: hows your teeth ?
15:02:35 [bblfish]
what is a Frenchman doing at Starbucks?
15:02:42 [bblfish]
C'est un scandale!
15:02:47 [deiu]
Starbucks is overrated
15:02:56 [un_jon]
Sure it is !
15:03:28 [bblfish]
Starbucks massively increased the quality of coffee in the US
15:03:44 [deiu]
bblfish, ah yes, but that's a different story
15:04:01 [bblfish]
sadly you can't really get good lattes in france
15:04:11 [deiu]
you can easily find good coffee almost everywhere in EU
15:04:18 [bblfish]
in Palo-Alto there is a coffee shop that makes excellent ones
15:04:37 [bblfish]
no, not really good capucinos
15:04:40 [deiu]
oh, and they open early (that's another +)
15:05:08 [bblfish]
the coffee shop in Foyles in Lodnon is quite good
15:05:15 [deiu]
Starbucks was the only shop opened at 7am on Sunday in San Francisco
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pretty close to excellent
15:07:41 [bblfish]
I have no idea where in Paris one can get really good coffee
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15:09:17 [deiu]
I'm sure there are lots of places, but I don't know of one where you can really "sit & enjoy" a good cup
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15:09:54 [deiu]
most Starbucks shops in Paris are fully of hipsters and Apple fanboys
15:10:23 [un_jon]
That's true !
15:10:43 [betehess]
un_jon, it's done, you can continue the work now
15:11:03 [un_jon]
But I look like an Hipsters and an Apple fanboys, so it's okay !
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:D
15:11:03 [un_jon]
betehess thank you !
15:11:10 [betehess]
not sure if it's worth providing enhanced syntax for the unsafeExtract
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as it's only meant for tests
15:11:40 [betehess]
you'll tell me, let's do without first
15:12:08 [un_jon]
ok !
15:12:23 [betehess]
now, I'm working on enhancing the graphstore to store objects directly
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I expect some clever things to happen with sub-graphs, we'll see
15:13:09 [betehess]
also, I need to support reverse properties in the ComplexBinder
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and update some parts of this code to make use of the new union
15:14:48 [betehess]
would be nice if we could pass all the tests before the end of the day ;-)
15:17:12 [bblfish]
working on it
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15:19:07 [melvster]
deiu: what's the difference in the POST between posting to the public wall and posting to your personal wall?
15:20:29 [melvster]
name = write_wall ?
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15:21:22 [melvster]
both seem to go to wall.php
15:25:10 [melvster]
ah ha
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user = user82401ddc / local
15:27:45 [deiu]
yeah
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(un_jon's 15minute free Starbucks internet must have expired, probably needs to buy another grande)
15:32:21 [melvster]
deiu: is there an easy way i can find my userid? then i can post to my personal wall from the command line
15:32:29 [melvster]
i guess i can just hard code it for now
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15:34:59 [melvster]
let me test
15:35:46 [deiu]
melvster, https://my-profile.eu/subscription.php
15:36:05 [melvster]
ahhh
15:36:11 [deiu]
the same hash for the link to your private wall
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15:37:31 [rszeno]
deiu, good point, i guess i do something wrong since my wall is empty
15:38:50 [melvster]
awesome it worked :)
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16:01:29 [melvster]
deiu: im going to start using MyProfile like my twitter feed now, in fact probably instead :)
16:01:57 [bblfish]
cool
16:02:01 [deiu]
it would be to cool to have a script that posts on twitter :)
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read your private wall -> post on twitter
16:02:28 [deiu]
maybe I can do that by default
16:02:40 [deiu]
no wait...twitter limits messages to 160 chars
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yes
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i wonder if i should put the URI of my wall inside my FOAF?
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melvster, holdAccount ?
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<http://wiki.ontologi.es/plink#wall>
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hmmm toby's site seems to be down
16:10:05 [melvster]
but that's what was suggested
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is down from a long time
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ill shoot toby a mail
16:11:52 [rszeno]
i use foaf:holdsAccount in foaf to point to identica and facebook, but i'm not sure if is not broken( the logic)
16:13:13 [rszeno]
:), i'm blind, is not broken are bnodes for each account, i don't know what i saw before but i was sure are mixed
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16:14:03 [melvster]
an account is not a wall tho
16:14:47 [rszeno]
yes, agree, :) but a wall is an account, :)
16:15:46 [rszeno]
imo, central point must be foaf, who need something can get from it and use
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this way i don't need to spread data all over the place and is easy to maintain
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melvster, that's cool :)
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betehess how do you trigger manually Scalariform ?
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