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09:46:48 <melvster1> deiu: do you think this should work to post to my profile wall?  https://gist.github.com/3082339
09:50:56 <melvster1> maybe i should add content type
09:51:08 <melvster1> 'Content-type': 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded'
09:51:54 <melvster1> worked!!
09:59:58 <melvster1> right i can start reposting from twitter to MyProfile now :)
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10:16:33 <deiu> melvster1, yeah it should work
10:16:42 <melvster1> is great :)
10:17:21 <deiu> btw, if you want to also read the wall, you can use Last-Modified and Etag to avoid checking for new messages 
10:18:36 <deiu> hey...isn't that code based on my old gist? :)
10:19:18 <deiu> nvm, I just read the mail...I'm glad it works! :)
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12:19:33 <bblfish> betehess: I have a mini version of rww-play up on github https://github.com/read-write-web/rww-play
12:19:40 <bblfish> still a lot to do
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13:40:05 <betehess> bblfish, WTF, you're commiting failing tests :-)
13:40:35 <betehess> [[
13:40:37 <betehess> [error] Failed tests:
13:40:37 <betehess> [error] 	org.w3.banana.jena.JenaGraphQueryTestJson
13:40:37 <betehess> [error] 	org.w3.banana.jena.JenaGraphQueryTestXml
13:40:37 <bblfish> I was trying to keep up with the speed of change
13:40:38 <betehess> ]]
13:41:01 <betehess> yeah, me too
13:41:10 <bblfish> is that a new failing test?
13:41:14 <betehess> I was about to merge jon's stuff in
13:41:14 <bblfish> I just fixed two
13:41:19 <betehess> no it's not new
13:41:31 <bblfish> I am on the sesame test
13:41:33 <betehess> what's new is that it wasn't failing before afaik
13:42:06 <bblfish> ah...
13:42:12 <bblfish> oh you mean just now
13:42:14 <bblfish> damn
13:42:19 <betehess> looks like it's https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/commit/e0f338eca6e5c6ebde32cffdaed272142c705b5e
13:42:45 <bblfish> ah interesting.
13:42:50 <betehess> can you fix it now and ping me? I'm on jon's stuff right now
13:42:53 <bblfish> I should have done a full test before commiting
13:43:00 <bblfish> ok
13:43:01 <betehess> good idea for next time :-)
13:44:19 <betehess> how long will it take? just wondering if I can do the merge now and force you to learn rebase at the same time :-)
13:46:06 <bblfish> I think it takes 30 minutes
13:46:19 <bblfish> ( why is Murphy's law so true ? )
13:48:44 <betehess> he was a claver guy I guess
13:48:52 <bblfish> damn, was coding while talking on the phone, my last fix is bogus
13:49:13 <betehess> hrm, I see some stuff that is wrong in jon's pull-request
13:52:09 <betehess> wow, I just had a java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
13:52:13 <betehess> sbt?
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13:53:34 <betehess> bblfish, I just did the merge to help jon working form there, but a simple hg pull --rebase should be fine on your side
13:53:45 <bblfish> ok,
13:53:53 <bblfish> you mean git pull --rebase?
13:54:11 <bblfish> :-)
13:54:31 <betehess> yes :-)
13:54:41 <betehess> sorry, I'm using both everyday
14:02:06 <betehess> bblfish, is jon around?
14:02:13 <bblfish> He's at the dentist
14:02:24 <bblfish> in Paris
14:02:26 <betehess> how convenient when I have questions for him :-)
14:03:18 <bblfish> he is using IRC more regulary recently, so I think he might be on 
14:03:25 <bblfish> later
14:03:42 <betehess> k
14:04:46 <bblfish> argh, Sesame's api for sparql is annoying
14:05:14 <bblfish> one has to know before parsing a sparql answer whether it is an ASK or a SELECT..!
14:07:42 <betehess> really?
14:07:51 <bblfish> yes
14:07:57 <betehess> maybe you can do brute-force to start with...
14:07:59 <bblfish> I had a discussion on their list about that
14:08:04 <betehess> not perfect, but it works
14:08:09 <betehess> yes, I remember
14:08:09 <bblfish> yes, I need to try to make it throw an exception
14:08:13 <betehess> yep
14:08:24 <bblfish> I think I have to try ASK first, then tuple
14:08:29 <bblfish> testing
14:08:56 <betehess> you should test the most likely first
14:09:08 <betehess> so ASK would be last I guess
14:09:13 <betehess> I'm not sure
14:09:18 <betehess> what do people use?
14:09:51 <bblfish> Euh, I tested SELECT first, but it returns an empty iteration
14:10:01 <bblfish> so it does not throw an exception
14:10:33 <betehess> empty iteration of what?
14:10:43 <betehess> of select queries?
14:10:47 <bblfish> yes
14:10:52 <betehess> what?
14:11:03 <bblfish> well they don't type their answers
14:11:22 <betehess> you parse something and you potentially get several things in return?
14:11:31 <bblfish> sigh
14:11:40 <betehess> we're not speaking of query execution, are we?
14:11:49 <betehess> only parsing, right?
14:12:05 <betehess> what does it mean to parse several queries at once?
14:12:19 <betehess> I don't understand
14:12:27 <bblfish> I parse an ANSWER
14:12:39 <bblfish> the answer could be the answer to a SELECT or an ASK query
14:12:58 <bblfish> their answer parser forces one to know which one it is
14:13:23 <bblfish> So I have to find a way of sorting that out.
14:13:32 <bblfish> It's probably nearly easier to write a parser for that
14:13:55 <betehess> I still don't see where the iteration comes up
14:14:08 <betehess> ok, /me is letting you figuring out the details
14:14:22 <bblfish> here /Volumes/Dev/Programming/w3.org/git/banana-rdf/sesame/src/main/scala/sesame/SparqlQueryResultsReader.scala
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14:15:13 <betehess> ok, let me dereference this guy
14:15:19 <betehess> oh drat, doesn't work
14:15:27 <betehess> :-)
14:15:40 <betehess> I'll look into that later anyway
14:15:46 <betehess> I've got other things to do
14:15:57 <bblfish> just search in your code for SparqlQueryResultsReader
14:16:10 <bblfish> yep
14:16:30 <bblfish> QueryResultIO.parse is the method that returns an iterator
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14:49:53 <bblfish> betehess: I pushed a fix for the issue we were discussing. The last bug is quite consistent now: Sesame can't find you in the list of editors but Jena can
14:51:30 <betehess> still not ok
14:52:32 <betehess> it's either a bug on the sesame side, in that case you use the flag that jon has provided, or it's an error on your side, and you'll need to fix it
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14:53:12 <bblfish> betehess: the error now is related to it not finding you in the file
14:53:55 <bblfish> which is a different error from the previous one
14:54:05 <betehess> the question is: is it supposed to work or not?
14:54:06 <bblfish> the two errros shown have the same cause now
14:54:32 <bblfish> Well, now one can check and see if this is a bug in Sesame, or elsewhere
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14:54:47 <betehess> if the logic in the test looks good, then you need to take action to fix it somehow
14:55:07 <betehess> "one" == bblfish :-)
14:55:09 <bblfish> agreed. Was about to look into it now
14:55:13 <betehess> ok
14:55:14 <betehess> thanks
14:55:18 <un_jon> :)
14:55:30 <bblfish> just putting it up there in case someone has an idea too...
14:55:52 <betehess> no time to invest right now
14:57:00 <bblfish> btw, betehess did you see https://github.com/read-write-web/rww-play
14:57:28 <bblfish> that's my first code for a RWW in play2.0
14:58:07 <un_jon> bblfish that's nice ! 
14:58:24 <bblfish> ah un_jon betehess had a question for you earlier
14:58:37 <betehess> not tried yet
14:58:42 <betehess> question?
14:59:15 <betehess> I'm writing the UnsafeExtractor typeclass right
14:59:27 <un_jon> betehess that's funny, my question was about the tests and the Monad
14:59:43 <un_jon> betehess so you are on it.
15:00:20 <betehess> yes
15:00:22 <bblfish> DIGlogger: pointer
15:00:22 <bblfish> See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2012-07-10#T15-00-22
15:00:30 <betehess> should be there in less than 30 minutes
15:01:24 <bblfish> yes, http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2012-07-10#T14-02-06
15:01:26 <un_jon> betehess Ok ! 
15:02:02 <bblfish> un_jon: hows your teeth ?
15:02:35 <bblfish> what is a Frenchman doing at Starbucks?
15:02:42 <bblfish> C'est un scandale!
15:02:47 <deiu> Starbucks is overrated
15:02:56 <un_jon> Sure it is ! 
15:03:28 <bblfish> Starbucks massively increased the quality of coffee in the US
15:03:44 <deiu> bblfish, ah yes, but that's a different story
15:04:01 <bblfish> sadly you can't really get good lattes in france
15:04:11 <deiu> you can easily find good coffee almost everywhere in EU 
15:04:18 <bblfish> in Palo-Alto there is a coffee shop that makes excellent ones
15:04:37 <bblfish> no, not really good capucinos
15:04:40 <deiu> oh, and they open early (that's another +)
15:05:08 <bblfish> the coffee shop in Foyles in Lodnon is quite good
15:05:15 <deiu> Starbucks was the only shop opened at 7am on Sunday in San Francisco
15:05:15 <bblfish> pretty close to excellent
15:07:41 <bblfish> I have no idea where in Paris one can get really good coffee
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15:09:17 <deiu> I'm sure there are lots of places, but I don't know of one where you can really "sit & enjoy" a good cup
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15:09:54 <deiu> most Starbucks shops in Paris are fully of hipsters and Apple fanboys 
15:10:23 <un_jon> That's true ! 
15:10:43 <betehess> un_jon, it's done, you can continue the work now
15:11:03 <un_jon> But I look like an Hipsters and an Apple fanboys, so it's okay !
15:11:03 <un_jon> :D
15:11:03 <un_jon> betehess thank you !
15:11:10 <betehess> not sure if it's worth providing enhanced syntax for the unsafeExtract
15:11:24 <betehess> as it's only meant for tests
15:11:40 <betehess> you'll tell me, let's do without first
15:12:08 <un_jon> ok !
15:12:23 <betehess> now, I'm working on enhancing the graphstore to store objects directly
15:12:40 <betehess> I expect some clever things to happen with sub-graphs, we'll see
15:13:09 <betehess> also, I need to support reverse properties in the ComplexBinder
15:13:38 <betehess> and update some parts of this code to make use of the new union
15:14:48 <betehess> would be nice if we could pass all the tests before the end of the day ;-)
15:17:12 <bblfish> working on it
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15:19:07 <melvster> deiu: what's the difference in the POST between posting to the public wall and posting to your personal wall?
15:20:29 <melvster> name = write_wall ?
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15:21:22 <melvster> both seem to go to wall.php
15:25:10 <melvster> ah ha
15:25:19 <melvster> user = user82401ddc / local
15:27:45 <deiu> yeah
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15:29:18 <bblfish> (un_jon's 15minute free Starbucks internet must have expired, probably needs to buy another grande)
15:32:21 <melvster> deiu: is there an easy way i can find my userid?  then i can post to my personal wall from the command line
15:32:29 <melvster> i guess i can just hard code it for now
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15:34:59 <melvster> let me test
15:35:46 <deiu> melvster, https://my-profile.eu/subscription.php
15:36:05 <melvster> ahhh
15:36:11 <deiu> the same hash for the link to your private wall
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15:37:31 <rszeno> deiu, good point, i guess i do something wrong since my wall is empty
15:38:50 <melvster> awesome it worked :)
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16:01:29 <melvster> deiu: im going to start using MyProfile like my twitter feed now, in fact probably instead :)
16:01:57 <bblfish> cool
16:02:01 <deiu> it would be to cool to have a script that posts on twitter :)
16:02:13 <deiu> read your private wall -> post on twitter
16:02:28 <deiu> maybe I can do that by default
16:02:40 <deiu> no wait...twitter limits messages to 160 chars
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16:06:35 <melvster> yes
16:06:57 <melvster> i wonder if i should put the URI of my wall inside my FOAF?
16:08:43 <rszeno> melvster, holdAccount ?
16:09:17 <melvster>  <http://wiki.ontologi.es/plink#wall> 
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16:09:47 <melvster> hmmm toby's site seems to be down
16:10:05 <melvster> but that's what was suggested
16:10:17 <rszeno> is down from a long time
16:10:34 <melvster> ill shoot toby a mail
16:11:52 <rszeno> i use foaf:holdsAccount in foaf to point to identica and facebook, but i'm not sure if is not broken( the logic)
16:13:13 <rszeno> :), i'm blind, is not broken are bnodes for each account, i don't know what i saw before but i was sure are mixed
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16:14:03 <melvster> an account is not a wall tho
16:14:47 <rszeno> yes, agree, :) but a wall is an account, :)
16:15:46 <rszeno> imo, central point must be foaf, who need something can get from it and use
16:16:48 <rszeno> this way i don't need to spread data all over the place and is easy to maintain
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17:13:35 <deiu> melvster, that's cool :)
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22:57:13 <un_jon> betehess how do you trigger manually Scalariform ? 
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