IRC log of dig on 2012-07-17

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06:50:35 [bblfish]
ok, that CORS security hole was a false alert http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2012Jul/0022.html webr3
06:51:03 [bblfish]
I misunderstood how CORS worked there
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11:29:28 [deiu]
bblfish, how do you POST data through your REST api?
11:30:38 [deiu]
Or better, did you ever get to a moment when you have to post triples through HTTP?
11:59:32 [bblfish]
deiu
11:59:41 [bblfish]
sorry for the delay
12:00:50 [bblfish]
you can see some of the code here: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/read-write-web/file/258d2757ef3d/src/main/scala/ReadWriteWeb.scala
12:00:56 [bblfish]
it's not that clean anymore
12:03:32 [melvster]
deiu: i was thinking about this, are you thinking about posting entries to the MyProfile wall, for example?
12:04:14 [deiu]
melvster, yes
12:04:31 [deiu]
I'm trying to decouple the UI (MyProfile) from the LD layer
12:04:47 [deiu]
actually, I'm working on an LD framework
12:05:10 [deiu]
(based on REST, of course)
12:05:13 [melvster]
I think it's also worth looking at http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/post/ which is probably the dominant way people do this today ... of course we want to do it with LD, but it's nice to have a reference
12:05:42 [melvster]
maybe one day LD apps and facebook apps could work together
12:06:45 [melvster]
the structure of a post is here: http://developers.facebook.com/tools/explorer/?method=GET&path=19292868552_10150189643478553
12:06:47 [deiu]
we have to make due until then
12:07:03 [deiu]
right..so it's just json data
12:07:42 [bblfish]
Deiu, if you really want to implement that you can follow this spec here: http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbp-20120326/
12:08:23 [bblfish]
and you could join the LDP Working Group http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter.html
12:08:37 [melvster]
yes it's json but it's possible to translate the stucture into LD ...eg id / post / comments / likes
12:09:49 [deiu]
yup
12:09:54 [melvster]
in fact with json ld macros you can transform it to LD https://github.com/antoniogarrote/json-ld-macros
12:10:25 [melvster]
that's like GRDDL for JSON
12:11:55 [melvster]
then they just use GET / POST / DELETE
12:12:58 [deiu]
:)
12:15:24 [melvster]
the other thing is that 1.2 billion people are on social networks and 900 million of them are on facebook ... so this is the format that at least 3/4 of people are already familiar with, so you get the network effect advantage
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13:35:36 [bblfish]
betehess: what do you think I should do in the list of todos https://trello.com/board/read-write-web/50041c1c14736e5932544e73
13:36:33 [bblfish]
( I am somhow taken a bit by writing up a CORS/ webid authorization delegation paper
13:37:38 [betehess]
hrmm, needs to understand trello first
13:38:02 [bblfish]
you can drag and drop the cards from one thing to the next
13:38:10 [bblfish]
s/thing/list/
13:38:26 [bblfish]
and if you click a card you get more info about the thing.
13:38:33 [bblfish]
that's it pretty much
13:38:44 [betehess]
is there already a Play 2.1 snapshot somewhere?
13:39:00 [bblfish]
I think it's going to be really movemented in the next 2 weeks
13:39:01 [betehess]
that uses Scala 2.10-M%?
13:39:03 [betehess]
M5?
13:39:36 [bblfish]
I don't think so. reading the list quickly I think they are going to use libs from M5 first, backport them to get things working then move
13:40:03 [bblfish]
but I am not even 70% sure on that
13:40:19 [betehess]
I wish they would remove the static routes...
13:40:29 [betehess]
s/routes/controllers/
13:40:51 [bblfish]
heh. you could ask for that as a feature ( perhaps in terms of icorporating mini-play )
13:41:07 [bblfish]
but perhaps play-mini with macors can do what those static routes do
13:41:18 [betehess]
bah, they have made clear in the past that they liked that
13:41:23 [bblfish]
still it's ok those static routes. I can live with it. Just an asthetic issue
13:41:47 [betehess]
I meant the controllers methods, that live in singleton objects
13:41:59 [betehess]
it is just impossible to inject things there...
13:42:13 [bblfish]
in RWW I just do this https://github.com/read-write-web/rww-play/blob/master/conf/routes
13:42:13 [betehess]
could be an issue to inject an RDF implementation
13:42:27 [betehess]
not routes: controllers
13:42:31 [betehess]
sorry for the confusion
13:42:41 [bblfish]
ah ok.... Controllers... mhh
13:45:02 [bblfish]
ah, I see. You'd like to inject Jena or Sesame in there...
13:46:42 [bblfish]
I should probably get the RWW part finishes more so that I can add access control
13:47:25 [bblfish]
but with your notion of dynamic actors you seem to want to make the access control part of the actors themselves
13:47:35 [bblfish]
( which I suppose is ok )
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13:50:27 [bblfish]
I think un_jon would be happy to migrate banana over to 2.10
13:50:56 [bblfish]
He just got his new mac book 15 inch high res screen
13:51:13 [bblfish]
laptop that is 5* faster than the 4 year old one he had
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14:07:33 [bblfish]
in any case I think un_jon is not funnly able to concentrate this week. He'll be back next week.
14:07:41 [bblfish]
Perhaps I should organise those cards in order of importance
14:08:58 [bblfish]
amy, I sent a list to the TPAC organisers - I suppose you get the messages to that mailing list
14:09:10 [amy]
hi henry
14:09:19 [amy]
yes, I"m not sure if Alexandra is out or not but I sent a follow up note
14:09:46 [amy]
you sent the info that was needed, tx
14:09:54 [bblfish]
great. thanks :-)
14:10:10 [bblfish]
I can move that card over to another list then :-)
14:10:28 [amy]
:)
14:34:02 [bblfish]
betehess: perhaps easiests is if I do WebID authentication first, since I have something like RWW working, and since you expressed a desire last week to implement something
14:35:17 [bblfish]
All I need to do is make a release of Play2.0.3_RC with TLS. Because I think waiting for Play2.1 is going to be too unsettling in the next weeks to month.
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hey matt lee? joining us for lunch?
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maybe it's too hot out to travel over but if you want I can save you a veggie sandwich (the salads are fairly meaty)
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