IRC log of dig on 2012-08-07

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12:10:19 [bblfish]
betehess: do you think it would be worth replacing RDFGraphQuery trait with the MSPARQLEngine . Perhaps case class JenaRDFGraphQuery(g: Graph) extends MSPARQLEngine ?
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14:25:54 [bblfish]
betehess: looking at it closely both Jena and Sesame transform rdf graphs for querying into stores.
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So one could just add an implicit to do that
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and use the sparql queries on stores
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14:43:28 [betehess]
bblfish, I believe that no one should be issuing sparql queries on Graphs, but using the Graph Traversal API instead
14:43:44 [betehess]
Diesel is much better for that
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why
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?
14:44:19 [betehess]
because sparql makes everything more complicated when you already have the graph
14:44:55 [betehess]
I really don't see the need for anything but Diesel
14:45:32 [bblfish]
well it is a pitty that the SPARQL people mixed up graph patterns and union semantics
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but if you strip the FROM
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of SPARQL you get essentially a graph query pattern
14:46:42 [bblfish]
do you have an example of an advanced query in Diesel?
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I'll try both...
14:54:23 [bblfish]
I like SPARQL because it is for many people like SQL so they understand it somewhat quickly. That's really why SPARQL has the shape it has.
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of course n3 is cleaner :-)
14:55:39 [betehess]
sparql is just a string, that's another issue...
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it's hard to develop and debug
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and it's not resilient to change in a big code base
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it's good when you have a store
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but that's all
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15:05:28 [bblfish]
is there not something going to be done about that in future versions of Scala where you can associate syntaxes with strings, perhaps? So that such issues get cought earlier?
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18:16:43 [bblfish]
betehess: sent an update https://github.com/bblfish/banana-rdf/commit/203480cfe0ac7a8eaa5ab901cfe524d12a1f22ea
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betehess: I added a bug report https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/issues/24
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with matching patch
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betehess: has Diesel gone?
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ah I see it's now in the main package
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