IRC log of dig on 2012-11-20

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15:23:51 [deiu]
https://128.30.6.48
15:29:40 [GitHub78]
[13data.fm] 15presbrey pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/K5Dr6A
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13data.fm/06master 14c128d5e 15presbrey: test: add php _server
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[13data.fm] 15presbrey created 06updatesVia (+1 new commit): 02http://git.io/I2KULg
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13data.fm/06updatesVia 140e47d6f 15presbrey: updatesVia: add sparql query broadcast
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17:41:02 [melvster1]
presbrey I wonder if it's worth adding data.fm to http://userdatamanifesto.org/ ... I can ask frank if you think it's a good idea ..
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17:54:46 [presbrey]
sure or tabulator.org
17:56:39 [presbrey]
deiu: http://daniel.hahler.de/easy-dns-wildcard-setup-for-local-domains-using-dnsmasq
17:56:57 [presbrey]
instead of local, you can write example.com if you like
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[13rdflib.js] 15presbrey pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/x51WRA
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13rdflib.js/06master 14cdb08f2 15presbrey: [util] bugfix Firefox 17 missing PrivilegeManager
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18:06:10 [melvster1]
deiu: I got someone to sign up to my-profile ... feedback was:
18:06:48 [melvster1]
1) whats the difference between usernamae and nickname 2) whats the difference between full name and first/last 3) how do they put it on their key chain (mac)
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18:09:29 [presbrey]
deiu, http://localhost.data.fm/ might work for you
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18:39:07 [melvster1]
deiu: i use data.fm with dynamic dns
19:00:44 [deiu]
melvster1, cool, thanks for the feedback
19:01:19 [deiu]
I'm afraid I won't be able to work on the UI that much in the following weeks
19:01:39 [deiu]
I'm more interested in the LDP backend at this point
19:02:11 [deiu]
and the current MyProfile page is pretty much a demo, not a real application (with proper support) :-)
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19:15:03 [timbl]
Joe, sleds are at file:///devel/WWW/2011/Talks/1020-socialcloud-tbl/Overview.html#%2816%29
19:15:22 [timbl]
ooops
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`pww !!`
19:15:51 [timbl]
http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/1020-socialcloud-tbl/Overview.html
19:16:26 [scor]
sandro: I'll be back some other time to talk about parallel properties / simplified RDF
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19:29:24 [scor]
webr3: ok, will keep you posted!
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19:49:54 [presbrey]
openssl genrsa 2048 -out server.key
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openssl req -x509 -days 3650 -subj '/CN=localhost' -key server.key -new -out server.pem
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^ timbl, in /etc/apache2
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20:21:18 [melvster1]
presbrey: sent a message to frank and cc'd you ... frank is also the lead dev of owncloud .... perhaps there are some synergies between the two ... some of the own cloud UI and the data.fm backend could be a great system
20:29:32 [deiu]
melvster1, ownCloud doesn't do RDF, does it?
20:30:02 [melvster1]
deui: not 100% sure on that one ... i know it has a WebDAV function
20:42:54 [presbrey]
timbl, httpd -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -DONE_PROCESS -DDEBUG -e debug
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22:33:46 [deiu]
melvster1, I've been thinking of getting the domain rww.io and use it as a base for RWW implementations
22:34:03 [melvster1]
great idea and awesome domain name
22:34:32 [deiu]
cool, I'll do it then
22:37:29 [deiu]
it would be awesome to have it run an LDP endpoint at TLD
22:41:35 [melvster1]
deui: im keen to have users be able to add a link to their profile that will lead you to an app
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right now i use foaf : interest <app>
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which does the job because the app logs you straight in via webid
22:42:15 [melvster1]
do you think we could use a better predicate?
22:45:17 [deiu]
hasAccount maybe?
22:45:38 [deiu]
if you use an app, you most probably have an account there (even if it's WebID-based)
22:49:04 [deiu]
or does that point to your account name, instead of the app
22:55:49 [melvster1]
deiu: ah good point there's foaf : account
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but what I want to be able to do is to have an actual app attached to my-profile like a calendar
22:56:29 [melvster1]
people can say <#me> foaf : account <twitter-uri>
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this way you can build up a collection of apps, say in a sidebar, like people do on facebook, and displayed on the screen
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then i can use my-profile as my main dashboard then go to my apps from there
22:57:32 [deiu]
I know what you want, but there's no way to express that currently
22:57:39 [deiu]
that's what I want too :)
22:57:45 [melvster1]
we can make our own vocab
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rww or social or socialweb
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or apps
22:58:03 [deiu]
and I want people looking at my profile to be able to discover new apps
22:58:16 [melvster1]
yes nice ... i have started on an app store too
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but i already have apps ready to go
22:58:36 [deiu]
or have the ldp:endPoint display a list of apps currently hosting data there
22:58:54 [deiu]
I think that would be better
22:59:03 [melvster1]
maybe we should have a vocab for 'social'?
22:59:10 [deiu]
yes
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I'd love to have a social:wall relation :)
22:59:50 [melvster1]
there's already a wall relation
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that's just an example
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I think timbl is working on Workspaces
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http://wiki.ontologi.es/plink#wall
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aha
23:03:37 [melvster1]
we could maybe add to that ... i think it's read/write enabled
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or perhaps subclass foaf : account
23:04:28 [scor]
melvster1: how do you search for vocab terms? seems the search engine of http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/ is broken…
23:05:04 [scor]
plink isn't indexed there anyways
23:05:15 [melvster1]
scor: I normally use LOV, and in the old days swoogle term search, but in this case, we discussed it with toby before
23:05:47 [scor]
yeah, toby has an incredible collection of vocabs of his own...
23:06:32 [melvster1]
toby is awesome ... ah you can edit the files http://wiki.ontologi.es/
23:09:15 [melvster1]
deiu: how about we use plink : webapp for now?
23:09:30 [deiu]
melvster1, sure, if it's available
23:09:50 [deiu]
ah wait, you can edit it, right?
23:09:55 [melvster1]
yes we can just tag it on the end of toby's vobab ... plink = personal links
23:10:05 [melvster1]
in theory you can edit it yes
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tho probably take a backup first :)
23:10:39 [deiu]
cool
23:12:35 [melvster1]
MS-Author-Via: DAV, SPARQL
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MS = Modification Service ;)
23:13:32 [melvster1]
curl --head 'http://wiki.ontologi.es/plink'
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quite nice
23:14:19 [deiu]
plink:webapp sounds fine :)
23:14:22 [deiu]
ok, I've got rww.io and ldp.io (just in case) :)
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I might just give ldp.io to betehess if he's interested :-)
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23:14:30 [melvster1]
wow nice!
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hmm, did I drop?
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for a second
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ah ok
23:15:11 [melvster1]
cool ... plink:webapp sounds great
23:15:12 [betehess]
yay
23:15:29 [betehess]
for the server, pretty cool
23:16:08 [deiu_]
yep
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hi
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bertehess I fixed Play's WS so that one can do real TLS tests