IRC log of dig on 2013-09-18

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bblfish, re """bblfish: timbl, what is the ontology you use for doing your accounts? [5:11pm] bblfish: if you have examples of rdf that uses it too that would be nice. We'd like to see if we can build a UI for it." …. There is a general transaction ontology (qu: ) and an OFX mirror ontology. See the transaction pane … and OFX2n3.py etc
08:08:10 [bblfish]
is that code in cwm?
08:08:51 [timbl]
yes in pim
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pim/fin.py
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pim/financial
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etc
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@prefix : <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/pim/qif#> .
08:10:48 [timbl]
@prefix ofx: <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/pim/ofx#> .
08:11:08 [bblfish]
great found it
08:11:12 [timbl]
Seee the transaction pane in tabulator
08:12:23 [bblfish]
ok that should be enough to get going. So I can take an ofx document and turn it to triples and then building a UI should be easy
08:12:42 [bblfish]
OFX I suppose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Financial_Exchange
08:13:52 [bblfish]
thanks a lot.
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12:31:48 [deiu]
bblfish, timbl: I'm using $rdf.SPARQLToQuery to perform a SPARQL query on a graph
12:32:15 [deiu]
but when I do kb.query(query, onResult, undefined, onDone), onDone is triggered before onResult finishes iterating through the results
12:33:05 [deiu]
is there any way to perform this operation synchronously ("waiting" for onResult to finish)?
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12:58:12 [bblfish]
not sure myself. One has to study the code, and document it better.
13:02:22 [deiu]
there's no call to onDone inside kb.query()
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which is weird
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anyway, I hacked around it
13:04:59 [deiu]
timbl, I'm very close to finishing a really nice LD calendar
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calendar/agenda
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I'm not sure about using workspaces vs dedicated storage URI (per app)
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especially in the light of sharing events with other people
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20:44:36 [melvster]
deiu ... now that we have shared resources on the web and serializations that's like 2/3 of the UNIX system V IPC ( shared memory and messaging )
20:44:49 [melvster]
the only one that's not modeled is semaphores
20:44:52 [melvster]
ie a lock
20:45:01 [melvster]
but we could do that easily I think
20:46:53 [deiu]
we'll see :)
20:47:09 [deiu]
for now I'm happy that my agenda app can read/write events :)
20:53:04 [melvster]
deiu: ooh nice!
20:53:11 [melvster]
actually maybe etags does it
20:53:20 [melvster]
deiu: do you have a demo yet?
20:54:05 [deiu]
hopefully by the end of the week
20:54:12 [melvster]
awesome!
20:54:34 [deiu]
lots of design issues to consider
20:54:56 [deiu]
like storing events in a dedicated resource document per event / per month / etc.
20:54:57 [melvster]
yes deiu: im sort of liking your one event per resource idea ...
20:55:09 [melvster]
start with one to one I think then optimize later
20:55:16 [deiu]
granularity sucks when it comes to updating/removing an event that is part of a list
20:55:17 [melvster]
1-1 is very clean
20:55:23 [deiu]
PATCH would be very nice but hard to implement
20:55:30 [melvster]
sparql delete?
20:55:42 [deiu]
delete is easy
20:55:47 [deiu]
UPDATE is more difficult
20:55:51 [melvster]
delete and insert then?
20:56:11 [deiu]
especially when you factor in concurrency (after sharing an event)
20:57:24 [melvster]
deiu: i dont know if you saw the websocket demo but what that does is send a sparql delete+insert for an update and all the clients get updated in realtime, presbrey had a working demo
20:57:48 [deiu]
I know about it, but not endpoints support WS
20:57:54 [deiu]
not all*
20:58:06 [melvster]
yeah
20:58:08 [melvster]
true
20:58:25 [melvster]
deiu: id suggest one event per document to begin
20:58:29 [deiu]
it's an awesome exercise and a challenge though :)
20:58:32 [deiu]
I welcome it
20:58:52 [deiu]
so far the app looks really great!
20:59:24 [deiu]
had we an app store now, I would totally "sell" it :)
21:13:38 [melvster]
deiu: you can put it into 5apps ... they will put it onto chrome, firefox, amazon and other app stores
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