IRC log of dig on 2014-03-20

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14:50:31 [deiu]
Is anyone going to http://html5apps-project.eu/2014/03/20/getting-ready-for-w3c-workshop-on-web-payments/ ?
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18:06:16 [melvster]
deiu presbrey ... wondering if you saw this issue about webid ending in # ? https://github.com/social-webarch/cimba/issues/5
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18:13:00 [deiu]
melvster: I don't really see that as a problem
18:13:16 [deiu]
per WebID spec, you MUST be at least able to parse turtle
18:13:45 [deiu]
qnames should fix their own implementation maybe?
18:14:23 [deiu]
oh yeah, XML
18:14:26 [deiu]
no thanks :)
18:15:24 [deiu]
if your WebID profile document is NOT available as turtle, you do not have a real WebID (according to the spec)
18:18:47 [presbrey]
we would like to allow user choice in all cases
18:19:17 [presbrey]
but first I want to rewrite webid in go
18:19:35 [presbrey]
webid.mit.edu, or maybe your issue is with another provider?
18:19:57 [presbrey]
in the next version, user can manage multiple hash#id of their choosing
18:20:16 [presbrey]
with shared or distinct keys
18:20:36 [presbrey]
but we should really have a WebID manager GUI that can work against any PDS
18:21:00 [presbrey]
using POST/SPARQL/etc. to manage ids/keys
18:21:41 [presbrey]
a server is still needed to sign certs, but it can do so for any URL, non-local domain/PDS' too
18:22:20 [presbrey]
perhaps this can be part of the profile manager
18:22:41 [presbrey]
deiu :)
18:22:47 [melvster]
presbrey deiu ... just want to change the defualt
18:23:05 [melvster]
not really my issue, it's something timbl brought up on the mail list once, let me find a pointer
18:23:27 [presbrey]
its ok melvster he has told me already too
18:23:40 [melvster]
ok :)
18:23:46 [deiu]
presbrey: yes, I want to have a profile "dashboard" too
18:25:03 [presbrey]
the main point is, the py/php are simple proofs. we are working to construct better software with more user choice and better defaults asap :)
18:25:10 [melvster]
this one : http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/WtrQ3Tbz8685D0AL8evT#LsjzqHA3z6ZffAk
18:25:59 [melvster]
it's not so much about the tooling it's more that cool uris dont change so if we get people using cimba to test they dont need to change links later and have other adjust their address book etc ...
18:26:43 [presbrey]
feel free to PR ldphp
18:27:07 [deiu]
melvster: don't forget facebook has WebIDs (ending in #)
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yes exactly
18:27:18 [deiu]
that's 1bil WebIDs right there
18:27:22 [melvster]
'So, while for facebook I'm not complaining that they
18:27:22 [melvster]
are using turtle, I wouldn't advice anyone to use an empty localid.
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'
18:27:33 [melvster]
was the comment
18:27:59 [deiu]
personally, I don't really care anymore about the #(value)
18:28:18 [deiu]
now that we have webizen.org, we don't need to send the WebID to people
18:29:42 [melvster]
axiom of opacity :)
18:31:02 [melvster]
presbrey: hope the exam went well! :)
18:31:57 [melvster]
deiu: btw qnames are used in turtle and n3 too, no?
18:32:23 [melvster]
or am i thinking of curies?
18:36:35 [deiu]
looking at the wiki page, qnames seems to be an XML construct
18:44:58 [melvster]
ah ok
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