IRC log of dig on 2015-01-21
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- topic is: Decentralized Information Group @ MIT http://dig.csail.mit.edu/
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- Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS_ timbl bblfish Sebastien-L deiu RalphS sandro_ cheater bergi melvster scippio klip ericP slvrbckt mattl Yudai__
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- Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS_ timbl bblfish Sebastien-L deiu RalphS sandro_ cheater bergi melvster scippio klip ericP slvrbckt mattl Yudai__
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- 12:48:26 [melvster]
- deiu: also noticed http://adracus.github.io/login-box/components/login-box/demo.html
- 12:48:56 [deiu]
- cool
- 12:49:32 [deiu]
- you can create/style the login-box on your site the way you want it, and the inner element — i.e. webid-login will adapt (resize)
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- deiu: do you use http://customelements.io/ ?
- 12:49:49 [deiu]
- responsive web components :)
- 12:49:56 [deiu]
- I use polymer
- 12:50:01 [melvster]
- yes i know
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- but that site is a directory of components
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- as it seems you can nest them
- 12:51:00 [melvster]
- "Finally, don't forget to add the web-components keyword in your bower.json file. By doing this your awesome element will automagically appear on CustomElements.io."
- 12:53:04 [melvster]
- e.g. https://github.com/garstasio/ajax-form/blob/master/bower.json#L17
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- "keywords": ["Polymer", "web-components", "form", "html", "ajax"],
- 12:54:29 [melvster]
- then I can star it :)
- 12:54:45 [deiu]
- Ok, done :)
- 12:54:57 [melvster]
- oh cool!
- 12:55:40 [deiu]
- https://github.com/webcomponents/customelements.io/issues/414
- 12:57:11 [melvster]
- cool!
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- 12:59:01 [deiu]
- bower info webid-login-signup
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- ;)
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- deiu, are you about?
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- Yes
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- I've started hacking together a UI for RWW
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- http://dev.webcivics.org/
- 13:01:22 [mediaprophet]
- so, question about auth.
- 13:01:34 [deiu]
- shoot
- 13:01:36 [mediaprophet]
- in that model, i've put a dataspace url (ie: provider) then persona (ie: an account)
- 13:01:40 [melvster]
- deiu: also nice https://github.com/1000ch/social-button
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- passcode (being password essentailly)
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- and 2-factor (being something like google authenticator)
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- first question; is about the WebID AUTH.
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- 13:02:28 [deiu]
- looks nice
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- if you fill the form out with dummy data, then press authenticate
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- you'll see the social-web page
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- which is http://dev.webcivics.org/home.html
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- 13:03:43 [deiu]
- ok..
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- if you click on the right-hand side bars; you'll see a chat thing pop out
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- world icon, has feeds
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- side menu, has calendar
- 13:04:35 [deiu]
- yeah
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- theory being, build UI, then integrate with RWW
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- anyhow.
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- 13:05:09 [mediaprophet]
- so, the AUTH process... who's dealing with that?
- 13:05:14 [deiu]
- it looks good
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- the server, always
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- your data server
- 13:05:28 [mediaprophet]
- if i ever get the opportunity to go visit MIT, for example, then want to login
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- what i was trying to consider http://dev.webcivics.org/
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- was that the machine had a TLS certificate, from the owner of the machine accuont.
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- that could be MIT/DEIU (for example)
- 13:06:15 [deiu]
- ok
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- do i want to load another x509? probably not
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- so, i want to use the certificate in the machine, to access my dataspace using an app.
- 13:06:51 [deiu]
- Yeah
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- then perhaps, give it a period of say, 30 minutes.
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- then it don't work no more.
- 13:07:15 [deiu]
- You can “fake” an auth, the way WARP/Cimba does
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- k
- 13:07:50 [deiu]
- basically trick the user to do a HEAD on a server that requests client certs, so that you get the WebID
- 13:08:29 [mediaprophet]
- in principle, do you see anything wrong - that screams at you - about the way i'm suggesting a provider URL (ie: rww.io) persona (ie: ubiquitous) and passcode (ie: ThisIs20!%) and 2-factor (say, google authenticator, with my phone)
- 13:08:36 [mediaprophet]
- um
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- k
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- so, still installs a cert?
- 13:09:08 [deiu]
- If you want to use client certs (WebID-TLS)
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- you can go with username/password though it will be useless if you want to login to other servers
- 13:09:41 [mediaprophet]
- i really like the technology; yet, i also think it's far better at declaring a machine, rather than a user-account.
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- k
- 13:10:09 [deiu]
- btw, none of our servers support password auth (just saying)
- 13:10:15 [mediaprophet]
- i do understand.
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- i was thinking perhaps, a file containing password info, could be stored, accessed via 2nd factor perhaps
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- ie: google authenticator provides auth
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- on a device that's got a users WebID-TLS cert
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- etc.
- 13:12:45 [deiu]
- sure
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- I'll keep working on it. At the end of the day, doesn't really matter... http://dev.webcivics.org/newuser.html exists, still needs work though.
- 13:12:59 [mediaprophet]
- cheers
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- np
- 13:16:54 [melvster]
- deiu: ah ha it pulls in the stars from github e.g. https://github.com/github/time-elements
- 13:20:24 [mediaprophet]
- oh; note - i've been hassled to create a proposal for a session at the auIGF. never done that sort of thing before, local internet society also interested in me establishing an interest group. I've started a proposal, it's https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeMjSseSJ876uq7rGHyTSaEA5F-_7nzeERyTn03Buys/edit?usp=sharing interested in feedback...
- 13:21:56 [mediaprophet]
- also interested in remote participation in the session via skype, or whatever teleconf methods they use.
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- not sure if it'll happen yet though.
- 13:32:46 [melvster]
- deiu: also nice [ view source ] http://robdodson.github.io/chart-elements/components/chart-elements/demo.html
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- <chart-pie values="[20, 30, 100]"></chart-pie>
- 13:33:24 [deiu]
- :)
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- cool, eh?
- 13:33:44 [melvster]
- yeah!
- 13:35:20 [mediaprophet]
- +1
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- klara, where are ya
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- deiu: I wonder how components will play with RDFa
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- oh, all the best to all for 2015.
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- deiu: here's a google drive web component
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- http://googlewebcomponents.github.io/google-drive/components/google-drive/demo.html
- 14:06:44 [melvster]
- I could imagine a similar read write web or LDP component
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- also model pagination with ajax : http://addyosmani.github.io/page-er/components/page-er/demos/paper.html
- 14:09:51 [deiu]
- Yeah, there are lots of components
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- http://customelements.io/
- 14:11:12 [melvster]
- deiu: this one reminds me a bit of tabulator http://googlewebcomponents.github.io/google-sheets/components/google-sheets/demo.html
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- timbl: ^^
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- http://customelements.io/?q=signup
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- deiu: woot! \o/
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- deiu: http://customelements.io/?q=webid
- 14:15:06 [melvster]
- you may want to add auth/login/authentication to the keywords perhaps
- 14:15:48 [melvster]
- oh login works
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- http://customelements.io/?q=login
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- 14:21:02 [melvster]
- deiu: one more ... editable data grid http://handsontable.github.io/hot-table/
- 14:24:48 [deiu]
- cool
- 14:24:48 [deiu]
- btw, I’m replacing the old eventSender code
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- the new one uses customEvent and json data
- 14:24:48 [melvster]
- great
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- https://github.com/linkeddata/signup/blob/master/README.md#listening-for-authentication-events
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- http://component.kitchen/
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- or http://component.kitchen/components
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- actually; http://bower.io/search/ looks like the one
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- deiu: perfect!
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