IRC log of dig on 2007-06-11

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topic is: DIG (http://dig.csail.mit.edu/ ) meets Mondays at 2:30pm
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Users on #dig: DIGlogger RalphS eikeon sandro DanC das05r
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17:07:27 [presbrey]
DanC: I seemed to have gotten OpenID working on the wiki test site
17:10:07 [presbrey]
DanC: I tested using MIT's OpenID provider: http://auth.mit.edu/
17:12:33 [DanC]
remind me the URI?
17:13:08 [presbrey]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/
17:18:23 [presbrey]
(MIT provider worked, I'd imagine others would too)
17:19:41 [DanC]
seems to be working; I'm prompted for a nickname... hmm... connolly or DanC ...
17:20:14 [presbrey]
I used presbrey just to be consistent
17:20:21 [DanC]
I went with DanConnolly
17:23:48 [presbrey]
neat is w3.org an openid provider?
17:25:01 [DanC]
no; I use delegation
17:25:32 [DanC]
I use verisign as my provider. (I might switch to MIT if it supports delegation; I can't imagine how it would not.)
17:26:04 [DanC]
I'd have to maintain my MIT certificate more than I do now; that might not be a bad thing.
17:28:35 [DanC]
presbrey, full marks for (a) a good URI, (b) openid support...
17:28:56 [DanC]
how about (c) semantic mediawiki extension?
17:29:05 [DanC]
i.e. so that this thing is an RDF authoring environment
17:34:07 [DanC]
hmm... boring... I have to login separately for breadcrumbs/drupal and mediawiki...
17:35:25 [DanC]
hmm... did we turn blog comments off? checking http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/admin/comment ...
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18:32:44 [RalphS]
zakim, this is dig
18:32:44 [Zakim]
sorry, RalphS, I do not see a conference named 'dig' in progress or scheduled at this time
18:33:00 [RalphS]
zakim, this is dig
18:33:00 [Zakim]
ok, RalphS; that matches DIG_weekly()2:30PM
18:33:03 [Zakim]
+MIT531
18:33:09 [RalphS]
zakim, mit531 has Yosi, Ralph, TimBL
18:33:09 [Zakim]
+Yosi, Ralph, TimBL; got it
18:34:18 [Zakim]
+DanC
18:34:34 [RalphS]
Meeting: DIG Weekly
18:34:40 [RalphS]
Chair: TimBL
18:34:45 [RalphS]
Regrets: Danny, Lalana
18:34:55 [RalphS]
zakim, Jim just arrived in mit531
18:34:55 [Zakim]
+Jim; got it
18:35:40 [RalphS]
Agenda: rrsagent, this meeting spans midnight
18:35:43 [RalphS]
argh
18:35:50 [RalphS]
Agenda: https://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/private/diggers/2007-June/001233.html
18:36:13 [RalphS]
-> https://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/private/diggers/2007-June/001227.html previous 2007-06-04
18:36:20 [RalphS]
zakim, Joe just arrived in mit531
18:36:20 [Zakim]
+Joe; got it
18:36:36 [RalphS]
zakim, Kenny just arrived in mit531
18:36:36 [Zakim]
+Kenny; got it
18:37:05 [DanC]
(I hope that issue jambo was discussing has a home in http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/ )
18:37:15 [jambo]
DanC, doing it now.
18:37:26 [DanC]
a la:
18:37:42 [DanC]
Juliet: wherefor art thou, romeo?
18:38:18 [RalphS]
DanC: just showing how to attribute words in a meeting record
18:38:35 [RalphS]
TimBL: in fact, "romeo" might want to go in quotes
18:39:09 [DanC]
(I'm connected to TAMI, at some level)
18:39:15 [DanC]
yeah
18:39:18 [presbrey]
agenda + wiki
18:39:30 [DanC]
agenda + tabulator issues list
18:39:59 [RalphS]
Topic: 2 minutes 'round the table
18:40:28 [DanC]
-> http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/issue52 Firefox Extension (tabulator issue)
18:41:43 [presbrey]
timbl: svn symlinks aren't working on his Mac, seeking assistance
18:42:01 [DanC]
(who's talking?)
18:42:16 [RalphS]
[I wonder if an answer to TimBL's svn+ssh problem is contained within http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=svn+ssh+proxy&spell=1 ]
18:42:39 [presbrey]
dli07: tabulator table view; fixing bugs
18:43:10 [DanC]
dli07 is kenny?
18:43:29 [RalphS]
zakim, kenny is not in mit531
18:43:29 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'kenny is not in mit531', RalphS
18:43:34 [presbrey]
(dli07 is David)
18:43:38 [RalphS]
zakim, MIT531 also has David
18:43:38 [Zakim]
+David; got it
18:44:06 [RalphS]
zakim, mit531 no longer has kenny
18:44:06 [Zakim]
-Kenny; got it
18:44:20 [timbl]
agenda+ Report from UI meeting with mc scraefel
18:44:54 [dli07]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/ToDo.html
18:44:54 [DanC]
(I gather there's a todo list that I'm not seeing)
18:45:56 [DanC]
"Note that the Tabulator Issues List is a more up-to-date " <- hmm... lie?
18:45:59 [RalphS]
(looks like David was reading from "3. Table view")
18:46:21 [RalphS]
TimBL: ToDo list should migrate into Issues list
18:46:40 [DanC]
-> http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/issue40 Issue40, Import issues from <ToDo.html> document
18:47:10 [timbl]
agenda+ How to install tabulator as an extension
18:47:33 [presbrey]
jambo: putting in query generation, tabulator UI; fighting firefox to the death
18:48:04 [RalphS]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/
18:48:05 [presbrey]
jambo: (above regards tabulator extension work)
18:48:33 [DanC]
(I switched machines, and getting DIG svn going again is going slowly)
18:49:34 [presbrey]
RalphS, (http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/README isn't listed there but is important)
18:49:54 [DanC]
(hmm... http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/Developer.html doesn't show how to check out tabulator)
18:50:26 [RalphS]
Joe: I moved the javascript code and redid links for tabulator
18:50:41 [RalphS]
... so we could import just the javascript into the extension and not the whole source tree
18:50:50 [RalphS]
... imported @@ into CSAIL space
18:51:09 [RalphS]
... openID extension to MediaWiki
18:51:13 [DanC]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/
18:51:20 [DanC]
(it's elsewhere on the agenda, too)
18:54:10 [presbrey]
kenny: tabulator sports modal editing interface; needs to talk to Tim
18:54:55 [presbrey]
yosi: graduated
18:55:12 [presbrey]
yosi: cwm can ask sparql query
18:56:07 [DanC]
(hmm... "kinit(v5): Clock skew too great while getting initial credentials" when I try to kinit)
18:57:54 [presbrey]
timbl: get back in to cwm online test suite
18:58:44 [presbrey]
... xml literatals... handling mixed content
18:58:48 [DanC]
wild... my machine's clock seems to be off by 5 minutes...
19:01:20 [presbrey]
RalphS: busy sysadmin'ing DIG
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19:02:15 [RalphS]
Joe, regarding http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/README that appears to be a special apache reserved filename; it's there and accessible but omitted from Directory listings
19:02:41 [DanC]
ACTION: TimBL update tabulator people page
19:03:00 [timbl]
agenda?
19:04:00 [RalphS]
zakim, take up agendum 1
19:04:00 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "wiki" taken up [from presbrey]
19:04:09 [RalphS]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/
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Joe: currently has the default MediaWiki home page
19:06:08 [RalphS]
q+ to ack about w3 user
19:07:10 [RalphS]
Ralph: who owns the 'w3' username?
19:07:15 [RalphS]
Joe: TimBL owns 'w3'
19:07:26 [DanC]
https://svn.csail.mit.edu:443 Fingerprint: d3:21:b3:63:45:5a:29:83:14:4e:5b:e3:f7:28:76:2a:38:d0:2d:ae true?
19:07:37 [DanC]
(I'm checking out 2007/tab )
19:09:09 [DanC]
Fetching external item into 'tab/ext/chrome/content/js'
19:09:09 [DanC]
Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.csail.mit.edu:443':
19:09:22 [RalphS]
Joe: I will move the MediaWiki data from Athena to a DIG area in CSAIL AFS when CSAIL has installed MediaWiki
19:10:07 [jambo]
DanC -> 443 should be SSL/same problem as Tim
19:10:09 [DanC]
(I can live with semantic mediawiki living in the someday pile for a week or so)
19:10:52 [jambo]
2005/ajar/ajaw/
19:11:01 [DanC]
$ svn checkout svn+ssh://svn.csail.mit.edu/afs/csail.mit.edu/group/dig/REPOS/2005/ajar/ajaw/
19:11:33 [DanC]
.
19:11:34 [DanC]
.
19:11:34 [DanC]
A ajaw/test/jsunit/build.xml
19:11:35 [DanC]
Checked out external at revision 1207.
19:12:55 [presbrey]
$ svn checkout https://svn.csail.mit.edu/dig/2007/tab
19:13:33 [DanC]
my question is: why is 'tab/ext/chrome/content/js' special at all? why is it not a normal directory somewhere under 2007/tab ?
19:13:53 [jambo]
no, its an external that just takes the scripts from 2005/ajar/ajaw/js/
19:14:12 [jambo]
so that the two share code / modifying one changes the other
19:14:17 [jambo]
to keep them consistent
19:14:54 [DanC]
(hg is looking better and better all the time ;-)
19:16:38 [DanC]
$ svn checkout https://svn.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/2005/ajar/ajaw'
19:16:38 [DanC]
svn: PROPFIND of '/2005/ajar/ajaw': 405 Method Not Allowed (https://svn.csail.mit.edu)
19:17:32 [presbrey]
$ svn checkout https://svn.csail.mit.edu/dig/2007/tab
19:17:37 [jambo]
https://svn.csail.mit.edu/dig/2005/ajar/ajaw/Coding.html
19:17:56 [jambo]
https://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/Coding.html
19:17:58 [presbrey]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/Coding.html
19:18:07 [DanC]
aka http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/Coding.html
19:18:57 [DanC]
(I'm tempted to ask about the "patches welcome" sign on the front door, but perhaps that's for another day)
19:20:05 [DanC]
(hmm... if I could throw away my DIG kerberos password, maybe I'd be happy to do the htaccess thingy.)
19:20:50 [DanC]
RalphS, does your htaccess offer get me into TAMI too?
19:25:41 [RalphS]
if there are htaccess-protected resources in TAMI then I suspect it would, Dan
19:26:28 [presbrey]
$ svn switch --relocate svn+ssh://svn.csail.mit.edu/xxxxx/dig/REPOS https://svn.csail.mit.edu/dig
19:26:49 [RalphS]
hmm. maybe not; separate pwd files for Web space and svn repos
19:30:52 [DanC]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/issue?@columns=title,topic,id,activity,status,assignedto&@sort=priority&@group=assignedto&@filter=status&@pagesize=50&@startwith=0&status=-1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7&@dispname=Developer%20Status
19:31:39 [DanC]
yosi_lap, I'm also tenuously connected
19:33:30 [DanC]
r3051 | timbl | 2007-05-22 13:14:29 -0500 that one?
19:34:54 [DanC]
tim is done-ish with 139 too
19:35:01 [DanC]
91 is deferred
19:36:04 [DanC]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/issue49 save, edit, update
19:39:36 [DanC]
TimBL: I'm getting some svn wierdness around generated .tex files
19:39:40 [DanC]
DanC: try svn resolve?
19:40:46 [DanC]
(bummer... roundup used to be usable real-time in meetings; the legacy state seems to interfere with that.)
19:43:59 [DanC]
(does testing get you up in the morning? any volunteers for the QA department?)
19:50:28 [timbl]
svn update 06/tab-draf2.html
19:50:28 [timbl]
svn: Can't copy '06/.svn/text-base/tab-draf2.html.svn-base' to '06/.svn/tmp/text-base/tab-draf2.html.svn-base.tmp': No such file or directory
19:50:48 [DanC]
who is kennylu ? I see "Create a semanticWiki for the Tabulator team" http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/issue184
19:53:38 [RalphS]
Ralph: regrets for next Monday
19:57:38 [DanC]
462 outline mode editing
19:58:48 [DanC]
how about "API to send edits to a server"
20:00:10 [DanC]
463 API to send edits to a server
20:03:53 [timbl]
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/issues/tabulator/issue194?@template=item&@pagesize=50&@startwith=0
20:14:58 [DanC]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/CambridgeSemanticWebGatherings
20:15:05 [DanC]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/CambridgeSemanticWebGatherings/Meeting/2007-06-12_Gathering
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[adjourned]
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-DanC
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-MIT531
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DIG_weekly()2:30PM has ended
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Attendees were Yosi, Ralph, TimBL, DanC, Jim, Joe, Kenny, David
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zakim, bye
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