IRC log of dig on 2010-09-28

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webr3 ?
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cwm profile.n3 http://example.org/rules.n3 --think
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would allow you to execute all rules in http://example.org/rules.n3 against profile.n3
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09:00:31 [timbl]
Seems to work
09:00:37 [timbl]
sorry about the glitch
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09:53:26 [timbl]
Oooooopps
09:53:29 [timbl]
Failed to change category:
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Exception in thread Dummy-4:
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Traceback (most recent call last):
09:53:30 [timbl]
File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/handler.py", line 172, in application
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r = self._application(environ, *argv, **kw)
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File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/handler.py", line 133, in _application
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graph.append(file(n3_path).read())
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File "/srv/dig/www/2010/wiki/swobjects.py", line 20, in append
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_T.parse(_SWObjects.IStreamContext(data, _SWObjects.StreamContextIstream.STRING))
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File "/srv/dig/lib/python/SWObjects.py", line 4520, in parse
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def parse(self, *args): return _SWObjects.TurtleSDriver_parse(self, *args)
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ValueError: std::exception
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10:22:48 [timbl]
Ouch ... <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue10> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/created> 2006-07-15T20:42:17 .
10:23:04 [timbl]
That isn't N3 -- missing quotes around the datetime
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and missing datatype
10:33:52 [timbl]
There are no datatypes in the whole file
10:34:14 [timbl]
So the file needs fixing (those dates should be dates) as well as the serializer
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in SWOBJECTS.
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13:02:32 [timbl]
ericp?
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DIGlogger, pointer?
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See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-09-28#T13-06-04
13:18:43 [ericP]
heya timbl, you at the 'tute today?
13:21:20 [timbl]
No, giving a talk at the Royal Soc Web Science public thing
13:21:37 [timbl]
I have been showing peopl ethe data wiki
13:21:48 [ericP]
huh, something tells me that's not nearby
13:21:48 [timbl]
but it broke ... did you update the serializer ?
13:22:03 [ericP]
i did not. not sure what happened
13:22:12 [timbl]
5 Carlton House Tce, London
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I did one update which worked.
13:22:30 [ericP]
oh, just across the street. let's get together in person
13:22:41 [timbl]
Then the file was corrupt and no otehr updates coul dwork
13:23:00 [ericP]
so datetime literals were coming back without quotes?
13:23:48 [timbl]
and without datatype URI
13:24:06 [timbl]
I wonder whether xsd:dateTime was considered a numeric dtatype by accident
13:24:11 [timbl]
and just output raw
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Strings are OK.
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13:24:59 [timbl]
Look at http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue
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with curl
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about line 10
13:26:40 [ericP]
huh
13:27:03 [ericP]
i can try to replicate locally
13:27:54 [ericP]
will cost some context switch. what urgency level is there? (factoring in likelihood of being able to update the wiki instance after code is fixed)
13:31:28 [timbl]
I can give the talk without doing a demo, no problem
13:31:39 [timbl]
Also embarassed that the system is down
13:33:13 [ericP]
understood
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people looking at the bugs for example
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but don't panic
13:33:34 [ericP]
is there a way to edit the data?
13:33:50 [ericP]
'cause you're right; i bet it's some instance data that came in as xsd:int
13:34:18 [ericP]
(given that it's moved a lot of dates before)
13:35:41 [ericP]
i could add xml schema validation (at the atom level) during serialization, but i guess it should throw an exception then anyways, which wouldn't solve your prob
13:35:57 [ericP]
(well, it would trade it for another)
13:36:06 [timbl]
edit the data yes
13:36:27 [ericP]
doyou know where it is? (i don't)
13:36:42 [timbl]
on tabulator.org
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ummm
13:48:34 [timbl]
I have edited it before
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The code is under /src
13:53:28 [presbrey]
hi
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13:53:57 [timbl]
Hi joe
13:54:20 [presbrey]
so ericP I'm happy to update the wiki instance swobjects library
13:54:29 [timbl]
got this werid problem that the literal syntax for dates in the state file is messed up
13:54:53 [timbl]
found
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.. /srv/dig/www/wiki/tabulator
13:55:09 [presbrey]
yeah
13:55:26 [presbrey]
10am here, just woke up and read all the emails
13:56:12 [timbl]
Sorry so early -- i have 5 hours start on you
13:56:23 [presbrey]
[root@dig ~]# grep 'Z' /srv/dig/www/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue.n3
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<http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue226> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-08-26T17:27:02Z .
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<http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue11> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-08-30T21:06:42Z .
13:56:24 [presbrey]
<http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/issue#issue13> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> 2010-09-01T02:46:30Z .
13:56:33 [presbrey]
and it goes on...
13:56:49 [presbrey]
I'll get a gandi nick today
13:57:06 [timbl]
So how did it lose the quotes I wonder
13:57:20 [timbl]
remind me where the log is
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14:00:07 [timbl]
should not be difficult to fix the data
14:00:28 [presbrey]
/var/log/httpd/error_log-20100926 has all the sparql
14:01:21 [ericP]
is there some evidence trail that helps us figure out what initially asserted that those could be serialized like numerics?
14:01:33 [presbrey]
fix? sed -e 's/d>(.+)Z/d>"\1Z"/
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14:02:19 [presbrey]
INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1285107654725> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-24T20:15:48Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> .
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14:04:39 [ericP]
SPARQL -e 'INSERT { <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1285107654725> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-24T20:15:48Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> }'
14:04:43 [ericP]
{ <http://tabulator.org/wiki/tabulator/tracker/state#Iss1285107654725> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/modified> "2010-09-24T20:15:48Z"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime> .
14:04:46 [ericP]
}
14:05:01 [ericP]
looks like it should behave
14:05:27 [ericP]
(SPARQL's output is using the same serializer, but perhaps called slightly differently)
14:11:08 [presbrey]
purl:created has the same errors
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some have no Z
14:11:42 [presbrey]
what if you insert other variants with SPARQL -e
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eg without quotes
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eg without datatype
14:12:14 [presbrey]
I doubt anyone has been editing issue.n3 without SWObjects
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anybody has experience with Talis' metamorph?
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timbl: still awake?
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