IRC log of dig on 2010-09-22

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13:32:26 [timbl]
Happy One Web Day
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14:10:22 [presbrey]
<MacTed> melvster - actually ... check the logs from yesterday. there was more chatter with oshani, and apparently the .../latest link really *does* deliver the latest build (it just still has a bug people had thought had been quashed, and versioning is horribly broken) ?????? bug report, anyone?
14:21:38 [oshani]
DIGlogger, pointer?
14:21:39 [oshani]
See http://dig.csail.mit.edu/irc/dig/2010-09-22#T14-21-38
14:23:05 [oshani]
bad versioning is not a critical bug :)
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14:34:18 [presbrey]
a bug with /tab/latest ?
14:34:44 [presbrey]
or tabulator versioning. ok
14:35:41 [presbrey]
sorry its hard for me to follow there for some reason
14:35:43 [presbrey]
...
14:35:51 [presbrey]
maybe latest is a bad name... 'snapshot' would be better?
14:36:00 [presbrey]
latest was meant to mean latest build
14:36:13 [presbrey]
maybe thats confused with latest release
14:38:58 [oshani]
well, latest could also mean the latest code :)
14:39:24 [oshani]
but yeah, I guess 'snapshot' would've been a bit better
14:39:49 [presbrey]
lets alias snapshot to latest and let latest die out over time
14:40:01 [oshani]
sounds like a plan
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14:42:13 [presbrey]
gah, regretful chumping
14:42:18 [presbrey]
ok so thats in
14:45:19 [oshani]
thanks presbrey
14:46:04 [presbrey]
want to link it from the tab/index?
14:46:09 [presbrey]
with a disclaimer :P
14:46:56 [oshani]
okay, I'll do it :)
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17:34:01 [mcherian]
lkagal, i am on zakim now
17:35:14 [presbrey]
ericP, we really need to finish that autoconf / automake stuff
17:36:22 [oshani]
presbrey, updated http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/
17:36:57 [presbrey]
oops
17:36:57 [presbrey]
thats not supposed to show the source
17:36:57 [presbrey]
ha
17:37:53 [presbrey]
ah oshani
17:38:04 [presbrey]
so if you check the source there... http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot
17:38:20 [presbrey]
about halfway down I am already doing the work to find the exact changeset tag
17:38:26 [presbrey]
# lookup revision
17:38:28 [oshani]
whoops
17:38:30 [presbrey]
...
17:39:01 [presbrey]
so its not likely much work is needed to get value (r) into install.rdf
17:40:30 [presbrey]
(and I think that's the last remaining issue with the release snapshots)
17:40:41 [presbrey]
we ought to get it in there for bug reporting at least
17:41:16 [oshani]
presbrey, are you gonna fix the .htaccess for the snapshot script?
17:41:20 [presbrey]
yes
17:41:23 [oshani]
ok
17:41:30 [presbrey]
its in already, next update on dig.csail should take it
17:41:36 [oshani]
ok, thanks
17:42:24 [presbrey]
works now
17:42:36 [presbrey]
run it: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot
17:42:37 [presbrey]
source: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot
17:42:38 [oshani]
I am not sure how to put in the rev into install.rdf when you create the xpi.. pass as a parameter?
17:42:40 [presbrey]
source: http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/tab/snapshot.py
17:42:50 [presbrey]
so...
17:42:51 [oshani]
yep works
17:43:05 [presbrey]
in the source you can see a hg clone checkout is step 1
17:43:15 [presbrey]
we need a install.rdf.snapshot template file
17:43:24 [presbrey]
where we have @@REV@@ or whatever special tag
17:43:44 [presbrey]
sed/awk/replace it after checkout + before zip
17:44:25 [oshani]
maybe we can have the hg version as the @@REV@@
17:44:30 [oshani]
makes more sense that way
17:44:31 [presbrey]
since its RDF, we could use an actual RDF tool to do it, but its not likely dig.csail/groups.csail has any good SPARUL libraries
17:45:25 [presbrey]
do you know what data types are valid in <em:version>0.8.7</em:version> ???
17:46:01 [presbrey]
mercurial has those hash revisions sorta like git
17:46:04 [presbrey]
1234:badf00d
17:46:21 [presbrey]
if we can't stash it in <em:version>0.8.7</em:version>
17:46:30 [presbrey]
only thing left I see would be <em:name>The Tabulator Extension</em:name>
17:46:48 [presbrey]
so something like <em:name>Tabulator (revision 1234:badf00d)</em:name>
17:47:35 [presbrey]
in a install.rdf.snapshot should look like <em:name>Tabulator (revision @@REV@@)</em:name>
17:47:46 [presbrey]
or <em:version>@@REV@@</em:version>
17:48:32 [presbrey]
if you find out which we can do, I can help implement
17:48:57 [oshani]
presbrey, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extension_Versioning,_Update_and_Compatibility, any string is ok for <em:version>
17:49:19 [oshani]
so, the mercurial hash revisions can go in there
17:49:32 [presbrey]
cool
17:49:55 [presbrey]
do we want to change the name for snapshots
17:50:10 [presbrey]
The Tabulator Extension (snapshot)
17:50:21 [oshani]
yeah, I think that's good
17:50:31 [presbrey]
seeing the mercurial version could be obvious enough
17:50:41 [presbrey]
but yeah lets make it explicit
17:50:56 [oshani]
agreed
17:53:24 [presbrey]
tabulator]$ hg push
17:53:24 [presbrey]
pushing to http://dig.csail.mit.edu/hg/tabulator
17:53:24 [presbrey]
searching for changes
17:53:24 [presbrey]
abort: push creates new remote heads!
17:53:27 [presbrey]
...what am I missing here?
17:53:58 [oshani]
what branch are you on?
17:54:27 [presbrey]
we're back on default branch, right?
17:54:42 [oshani]
yeah
17:54:53 [presbrey]
I'm not sure, I'll just clone another
17:54:58 [oshani]
okay
18:03:09 [presbrey]
are you sure how this counter works?
18:03:21 [presbrey]
1056:25bb5cd46632 seems the current changeset
18:04:06 [oshani]
um, not really. Does it count up in hex?
18:05:46 [presbrey]
I'm wondering if the hash is a simple checksum
18:06:00 [presbrey]
and if 1056 is what I want to include or the whole string
18:06:09 [presbrey]
I guess the whole thing is fine
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18:37:57 [presbrey]
ericP, trying to build lua bindings to swobjecst
18:38:09 [presbrey]
lua]# make
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swig -lua -module swobjects -I../../ -I../../lib/ -I../../interface/ -o swobjects_wrap.c ../SWObjects.i
18:38:10 [presbrey]
../SWObjects.i:72: Warning 301: class keyword used, but not in C++ mode.
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../SWObjects.i:72: Error: Syntax error in input(1).
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make: *** [swobjects_wrap.c] Error 1
18:38:18 [presbrey]
how did you make the java/python bindings?
18:45:20 [Pipian]
lkagal, are you around?
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19:29:00 [Pipian]
timbl, are you busy? I'd like to talk to you about what we should discuss/have the students do in the Lab tomorrow.
19:30:16 [timbl]
I'm on the phone right now.
19:30:27 [timbl]
But after that
19:32:27 [Pipian]
Alright, please let me know.
19:37:30 [timbl]
Ok
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20:57:56 [oshani]
timbl or amy, where can I find a non png version of the lod cloud diagram?
20:58:38 [oshani]
got it - http://richard.cyganiak.de/2007/10/lod/
21:01:57 [amy]
hi oshani
21:01:58 [amy]
ok
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21:20:43 [melvster]
oshani: you know there's a new diagram?
21:23:09 [presbrey]
melvster, http://richard.cyganiak.de/2007/10/lod/ is the new one
21:23:19 [melvster]
oic, sorry
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